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  • mhzackary
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    Originally posted by MemoryLane View Post
    Treasure inventory is suppose to be more room than you will ever need, so that it is sure to hold all things the devs have labelled as treasure. We don't want too many things to be considered treasure, else we do run the risk of an overflow. It's not going to solve the problem of people not getting rid of anything, even if they've maxed whatever it is already, which I know is part of the inventory problem and might be why the devs don't feel there's a rush to give us more room for things.
    Adding a few things won't hurt - Relics could easily be added, star tears, will crystal / res crystal shards. Not saying add a tremendous amount of things or things that aren't even close to being considered treasure.


    Originally posted by SmuttyRebel View Post

    How are we struggling... hmm... 3mil per month (strike that, per 30 DAYS) is 3 BILLION of actual contribution. That's a full stack and a half of animals. People don't and will not contribute that much gold (x2 for both pages) when they have nothing worth buying in the shop. Instead, they spend it on astrals, buy animals to save for holy forging events, and anything else they need the gold for. Throwing it at the guild to pay an exorbitant amount for something that SHOULD BE PROVIDED is never going to happen for the SMALL guilds. We currently earn 30-40 mil per World Boss per day, that's 2.1 bil in a month and for SMALL guilds, what's the point in earning all that gold if it HAS to be wasted on vault pages?

    And your description of sorting... "just look for". No thanks! I don't have to look for. They are all arranged on their own tab and I don't have to search for a thing. I sort my inventory and my vault because I have to when they are so full, my treasure tab is never sorted and it's the easiest one to maintain.

    It's not making a new system. It's copy and pasting an existing one instead of editing that one and messing it up. It's taking the COPY and making the edits to the list of items that will be on that tab. It's making a tweak to have 3 tabs instead of 2. They've already done exactly this to give us the Treasure tab... it's not new! Treasure page is not broke, it has room for additional treasure items and I stand by my "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

    Shoving everything wherever it will go is NOT a fix, it's chaos.
    Okay i'm confused... First you said don't mess with TP, add another page that's an exact copy but for different items, now you're saying TP has room for additional items?
    Make up your mind.

    Treasure page isn't broken, I'll give you that. But why not fill it in more to get our balens worth out of it, AND add another inventory feature that can be Eud/Sylph stuff. Otherwise I'll never bother buying TP if they added the 3rd feature, because I have more Eud/Sylph stuff than I do **** that goes into the Treasure page.

    Also, I have no problem finding stuff soooooo I think that's a "YOU" problem.


    Also, ALL my guilds have way more wealth than they know what to do with. So I still don't see how this is an issue with guilds unless you have no active players. So let's do some math shall we?
    6bil per 30 days, 6bil / 30 = 200m per day... Let's say a small active guild of 10 players - that's 20m gold per day... It goes down the more players you have. So tell me exactly how or why this is "so expensive" for you? If anything be happy you have EXTRA SPACE THAT DOESNT COST BALENS. No one's forcing you to buy the vault.

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  • R22289894
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    and why sort out gems if go to blacksmith it show's me how much from what i have and what i can use to make the lvls 5 6 7 -12 xD they should put atleast the relics to treasure inventory they eating to much space

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  • SmuttyRebel
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    Originally posted by mhzackary View Post


    Mate, are you serious?
    How you're struggling to pay for vault pages is beyond me - the server I'm GM of, We only have to pay 3mil per month per vault tab... Whether that increases or not idk, but I don't understand how you're struggling to pay for vaults. On my merged server 727, we have more wealth than we could ever spend currently.

    Also, "sorting" would still make it easy to find things, because it'd group them together... Need a lv 6 hp div soul? Cool, just look for the div souls, then look at HP, then Lv 6. The way you're describing sounds like it takes more time, because you HAVE to keep it organized, and you can never sort your inventory ever, so that seems more work than it's worth.

    Also, we're asking they add simple **** that SHOULD be in the treasure page. Sorry but when it comes down to it, adding items to an already existing feature is a hella lot easier, faster, and more simple than making a new system.
    Btw, if you think them adding things to TP will mess it up, imagine them trying to make ANOTHER tab with different items. You're contradicting yourself.

    And your "if it ain't broke don't fix it" phrase is invalid sir. Inventory IS BROKEN therefor we have to fix it, and THIS is a fix.



    I'm not saying I'm opposed to another 5 pages of space for different items, but in all reality even that 5 pages still won't be enough because we'd STILL have 2-3 pages empty just like treasure page. So, WHY NOT FILL TREASURE PAGE IN MORE, AND ADD ANOTHER TAB OF ITEMS THAT CAN BE EMPTY.

    I rest my case,
    Don't come for me unless I send for you.
    K thx
    How are we struggling... hmm... 3mil per month (strike that, per 30 DAYS) is 3 BILLION of actual contribution. That's a full stack and a half of animals. People don't and will not contribute that much gold (x2 for both pages) when they have nothing worth buying in the shop. Instead, they spend it on astrals, buy animals to save for holy forging events, and anything else they need the gold for. Throwing it at the guild to pay an exorbitant amount for something that SHOULD BE PROVIDED is never going to happen for the SMALL guilds. We currently earn 30-40 mil per World Boss per day, that's 2.1 bil in a month and for SMALL guilds, what's the point in earning all that gold if it HAS to be wasted on vault pages?

    And your description of sorting... "just look for". No thanks! I don't have to look for. They are all arranged on their own tab and I don't have to search for a thing. I sort my inventory and my vault because I have to when they are so full, my treasure tab is never sorted and it's the easiest one to maintain.

    It's not making a new system. It's copy and pasting an existing one instead of editing that one and messing it up. It's taking the COPY and making the edits to the list of items that will be on that tab. It's making a tweak to have 3 tabs instead of 2. They've already done exactly this to give us the Treasure tab... it's not new! Treasure page is not broke, it has room for additional treasure items and I stand by my "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

    Shoving everything wherever it will go is NOT a fix, it's chaos.

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  • MemoryLane
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    Treasure inventory is suppose to be more room than you will ever need, so that it is sure to hold all things the devs have labelled as treasure. We don't want too many things to be considered treasure, else we do run the risk of an overflow. It's not going to solve the problem of people not getting rid of anything, even if they've maxed whatever it is already, which I know is part of the inventory problem and might be why the devs don't feel there's a rush to give us more room for things.

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  • mhzackary
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    Originally posted by SmuttyRebel View Post

    Perhaps you didn't read the part about us struggling to pay for vault pages. Our gold isn't wasted converting gems when there is plenty of room in the TREASURE tabs to keep ALL of them organized by type and levels... 2 pages for gems, 1 for divinity souls, 1 for euademon and the last has resistances. THAT's organized. "Sorting" puts them in whatever order the system deems appropriate and you're left searching row upon row to find what you're looking for. No thank you, I do that enough with my regular inventory!

    You want them to tinker with an already existing feature (all gems on the treasure pages) and add whatever! additional items that you KNOW they'd mess up, I want them to leave it alone!!! Copy and paste whatever code they have to and make a third tab and THEN they can add the stuff I suggested.

    Haven't you learned by now, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! And if these programmers have anything to do with it... DON'T TOUCH IT!!!

    Why you'd want them to just move stuff to your current "2-3 pages of empty space" instead of 5 new ones as I suggested is beyond me.

    Mate, are you serious?
    How you're struggling to pay for vault pages is beyond me - the server I'm GM of, We only have to pay 3mil per month per vault tab... Whether that increases or not idk, but I don't understand how you're struggling to pay for vaults. On my merged server 727, we have more wealth than we could ever spend currently.

    Also, "sorting" would still make it easy to find things, because it'd group them together... Need a lv 6 hp div soul? Cool, just look for the div souls, then look at HP, then Lv 6. The way you're describing sounds like it takes more time, because you HAVE to keep it organized, and you can never sort your inventory ever, so that seems more work than it's worth.

    Also, we're asking they add simple **** that SHOULD be in the treasure page. Sorry but when it comes down to it, adding items to an already existing feature is a hella lot easier, faster, and more simple than making a new system.
    Btw, if you think them adding things to TP will mess it up, imagine them trying to make ANOTHER tab with different items. You're contradicting yourself.

    And your "if it ain't broke don't fix it" phrase is invalid sir. Inventory IS BROKEN therefor we have to fix it, and THIS is a fix.



    I'm not saying I'm opposed to another 5 pages of space for different items, but in all reality even that 5 pages still won't be enough because we'd STILL have 2-3 pages empty just like treasure page. So, WHY NOT FILL TREASURE PAGE IN MORE, AND ADD ANOTHER TAB OF ITEMS THAT CAN BE EMPTY.

    I rest my case,
    Don't come for me unless I send for you.
    K thx

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  • bertalt
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    Originally posted by R22289894 View Post
    so you want them to put out 5 more pages?? sounds good but think twice genius then they will let us pay again to open those 5pages... im not organising the gem's etc but even then you can stash them on 2 or 3 pages and still lose space of 2 a 3 pages that you payed for.. they can easy let the relic stuff move to treasure invetory and other stuff ...

    guild vault is nice to but if your guild not that big its expensive.... they just need to give more free space... not willing to pay any balens on that as i wasted balens on 3 empty useless pages
    I don't know why BOUND balens is so hard for you get, I'm a free player and I have over 23k currently. Between Devotion (I rarely get the daily since we can't afford to run Emeraldia, but I do manage to get 250 a day so I get the 2 weekly chests), Heavenly Crianza and now Demon Continent (it has 10 battles giving 100 balens each every 4 levels), along with the many other ways... but these are just the biggest off the top of my head right now.

    To say those pages in treasure tab are 'lost' is incorrect. They are there for future treasures for whatever they may have coming down the road, not just any ol' junk. Do you cram your vacuum cleaner in your food pantry because you have the space? I doubt it! It doesn't belong there and you could contaminate your food. Put things where they belong, and it you don't have the room, either start throwing things out you don't need or buy a bigger house.
    Last edited by bertalt; 09-11-2018, 02:22 PM.

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  • R22289894
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    so you want them to put out 5 more pages?? sounds good but think twice genius then they will let us pay again to open those 5pages... im not organising the gem's etc but even then you can stash them on 2 or 3 pages and still lose space of 2 a 3 pages that you payed for.. they can easy let the relic stuff move to treasure invetory and other stuff ...

    guild vault is nice to but if your guild not that big its expensive.... they just need to give more free space... not willing to pay any balens on that as i wasted balens on 3 empty useless pages

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  • SmuttyRebel
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    Originally posted by mhzackary View Post

    A lot of people have a good 2-3 pages empty on Treasure Page... Don't see how this could be a bad thing aside from messing up your organization skills. Personally I think it'd be more resourceful to fill this tab with additional items that should be in there anyways rather than let them waste inv space or be sent to another tab...

    Also let me get this straight, instead of adding items to an already existing feature, you want to add another feature to fit more things into... Bias much?

    Also, idk bout you but, as long as you stay somewhat organized and don't have TONS of gems of different kinds laying in your treasure tab, I see no reason why you couldnt find anything... They have a sort button for a reason
    Perhaps you didn't read the part about us struggling to pay for vault pages. Our gold isn't wasted converting gems when there is plenty of room in the TREASURE tabs to keep ALL of them organized by type and levels... 2 pages for gems, 1 for divinity souls, 1 for euademon and the last has resistances. THAT's organized. "Sorting" puts them in whatever order the system deems appropriate and you're left searching row upon row to find what you're looking for. No thank you, I do that enough with my regular inventory!

    You want them to tinker with an already existing feature (all gems on the treasure pages) and add whatever! additional items that you KNOW they'd mess up, I want them to leave it alone!!! Copy and paste whatever code they have to and make a third tab and THEN they can add the stuff I suggested.

    Haven't you learned by now, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! And if these programmers have anything to do with it... DON'T TOUCH IT!!!

    Why you'd want them to just move stuff to your current "2-3 pages of empty space" instead of 5 new ones as I suggested is beyond me.

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  • R22289894
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    then rest the why.. why we needed to pay that much for 5 pages while we have stuff that moves in there can't fill 2 pages? so we rent 3 pages for jack..


    so we getting more stuff that we need to safe memorylane?

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  • mhzackary
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    Originally posted by SmuttyRebel View Post
    What's going to make it even worse is the cost of the extra vault pages. Those of us, especially in smaller guilds, are really struggling to come up with the gold required to keep those pages open. Expecting 1 BILLION per DAY of contribution per PAGE when there is almost nothing of value to spend it on in the guild shop (I personally only spend 5 million per day) is outrageous! You need a guild of 200 ACTIVE and CONTRIBUTING players to maintain it. People don't want to WASTE that much gold on something that SHOULD BE PROVIDED... SPACE!!!!!!!

    And I want to add how opposed I am to opening the treasure pages to other things... once that door is opened, chaos will ensue and we won't be able to find anything. Easiest solution to the problem, in my opinion, is to make more tabs along the side. There is really no reason we can't have ONE more tab for sylphs, eudaemons/willpowers, dragonchant, goddesses, relics, mounts and anything else they decide to make us drag around. That would add 5 more pages and take the stress off of our bulging bags. Kick in the max quantity per item and we'd be golden for another couple of years no matter what else they throw at us.
    A lot of people have a good 2-3 pages empty on Treasure Page... Don't see how this could be a bad thing aside from messing up your organization skills. Personally I think it'd be more resourceful to fill this tab with additional items that should be in there anyways rather than let them waste inv space or be sent to another tab...

    Also let me get this straight, instead of adding items to an already existing feature, you want to add another feature to fit more things into... Bias much?

    Also, idk bout you but, as long as you stay somewhat organized and don't have TONS of gems of different kinds laying in your treasure tab, I see no reason why you couldnt find anything... They have a sort button for a reason
    Last edited by mhzackary; 09-10-2018, 10:22 PM.

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  • SmuttyRebel
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    What's going to make it even worse is the cost of the extra vault pages. Those of us, especially in smaller guilds, are really struggling to come up with the gold required to keep those pages open. Expecting 100 MILLION per DAY of contribution per PAGE when there is almost nothing of value to spend it on in the guild shop (I personally only spend 5 million per day) is outrageous! You need a guild of 200 ACTIVE and CONTRIBUTING players to maintain it. People don't want to WASTE that much gold on something that SHOULD BE PROVIDED... SPACE!!!!!!!

    And I want to add how opposed I am to opening the treasure pages to other things... once that door is opened, chaos will ensue and we won't be able to find anything. Easiest solution to the problem, in my opinion, is to make more tabs along the side. There is really no reason we can't have ONE more tab for sylphs, eudaemons/willpowers, dragonchant, goddesses, relics, mounts and anything else they decide to make us drag around. That would add 5 more pages and take the stress off of our bulging bags. Kick in the max quantity per item and we'd be golden for another couple of years no matter what else they throw at us.
    Last edited by SmuttyRebel; 09-11-2018, 07:25 PM.

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  • mhzackary
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    I agree with 1 2 and 4, and i guess 3 also, though there is a work around with 3.


    The thing is, we get TONS of items, and sadly we get tons of items pre-KH even that we can't even use yet. Sure increasing stacks would help, but on one server I have FULL vaults and bags without an outrageous amount of stacks. Also can I just point out how expensive getting more inventory lines are? I'd say roughly 13k Balens (Bound or Unbound) for 3 full pages, plus 2500 balens for Treasure pages. Granted that's not horrid but, for new servers that's kind of challenging.

    I heavily agree with 1, no reason why we can't add more things to the treasure pages, and honestly I wouldn't mind luck stones being moved there either. They don't take up tons of space but it's still nice to keep those on hand without worrying about running out of space.

    My mentioned "work-around" for #3 would be to remove the daily buy limit for the Dev Pots. I see no way in how this could be abused, and it would allow players to buy 100k at once rather than hoarding stacks.

    But seriously, I really hope they do something because it's making gameplay impossible... and god forbid you leave your guild without having 30+ pages of mail

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  • MemoryLane
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    I forward the suggestion every single week. I've also expressed concern about the addition of more items without the inclusion of more space when I saw the patch notes. Thank you for keeping the topic alive, it really does help.

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  • SmuttyRebel
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    Great news, everyone!!! I'm on the test server and you won't believe it...

    They've added Demon Continent which has 5 different Goddess shards (that we have to hold onto in order to advance our Goddesses), Prayer Scripts (used for Goddess devotion) and Wave Crystals (used to level up the Goddess).

    They've also changed Voyage and it now has 5 different items that can be gained by 'fishing' in Voyage (limited event time: 17:30-18:00). Sky Harbor (the top one) is restricted to using these new items only.

    12 new inventory items added and they have done NOTHING to help us make room for them. I, for one, am SICK of spending more time trying to MAKE room in my bag every time I collect rewards from something than actually playing the game!

    Inventory is an EMERGENCY situation, and if they don't address it... like, yesterday!... I WILL quit.

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  • Machiavelique
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    I am also renting the last 2 pages and running out of space, especially when an event is coming out of nowhere, how are we supposed to keep material in case an event is created?
    The treasure inventory is great, but I'm only using 2 pages and it's taunting us when the other and vault are totally full and we are forced to sell, to even GET DEVO.
    So yes, extra space is urgently needed. Obviously when you are adding items that are collected over time, the inventory should also grow and it isn't the case for a long time now.
    Most annoying are developping potions as we need so many, so or make them usable as we buy them or put them in a profile section, that would help.

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