Crazy archer willing to do experiments

[IggyBousse]

Archer with max Bloodthirst, Brutality and Healing rune = regen archer. Not really a special build, more a standard.

Also Will Destroyer will gimp you.
More standard damage yes, but we crit so much in the end we will do less damage not using crit.
Also the fact we get more rage when we crit.

Archer is a very broken build to me since we can only go 1 direction. Unlike Knights and Mages.
Endgame we can't even compete because the Knights have too much defense + equal attack, and mages hit hard and outheal even our delphic.

Instead of trying builds I'd like to see some love for 'endgame' archers.

[B4nsh33]

Pretty much agree Iggy ... the only way for archers to really endgame is to cash some hardcore defense and max out their patk to crazy insane heights.

[IggyBousse]

Yes and before people start shouting 'BUT YOU HAVE WORLDBOSS HERPDERP' I'll gladly give you WB in exchange for some archer improvement.

[Linazz]

I like the idea of building an archer with WD

[ancev]

I like the idea of building an archer with WD

it would be pointless, since archer is based on crits.

[Linazz]

it would be pointless, since archer is based on crits.

Never said it would be effective

[-Eilistraee-]

I agree with your view Iggy... Perhaps instead of just trying to go on dreaming about taking out both Knights AND Mages... i feel endgame Archers should just focus on doing their job well - taking out Mages... hence gems settings astrals settings should be done purely for Mage Killing...

I think that's the only viable or achievable target until the day the developers ensure Archer's base attack matches the other two classes...

[anichaos]

Never said it would be effective

Yea, OP did say he's "crazy" LOL....
no sane archer would use WD, but crazy ones would.

I agree with your view Iggy... Perhaps instead of just trying to go on dreaming about taking out both Knights AND Mages... i feel endgame Archers should just focus on doing their job well - taking out Mages... hence gems settings astrals settings should be done purely for Mage Killing...

I think that's the only viable or achievable target until the day the developers ensure Archer's base attack matches the other two classes...

Yea, and I heard they "nerf" archers' crit rate/value every patch... which just makes archers even worse than they already are.

on my server, we're REALLY short on archer for MPD runs,

I think we only have like 8 archer in the entire server or something (well, ones that can do MPDs)



A lot of archers are rerolling mages to play now, and can be seen on forum with ppls posting their new mages.

[DrigenDragon]

Thank you for your ideas. looks like the idea that is most popular is a wd archer. I will post results so stay tuned. and feel free to give me more ideas thanks and may you have luck in all of your journies

[d07.RiV]

Pretty simple, keep the % of the ruthlessness BELOW THE % of your crit base (Determination) and if you crit, the ruthlessness doesn't cut ur power if it goes low.

I think determination simply makes your crits hit for 1.5*(determination bonus) damage. So lvl 7 determ would make you crit for 1.5*1.35=2.025 damage. It doesn't interfere with ruthlessness in any way. If you have lvl 3 Ruthlessness you would hit for 69%-131% of your average damage, or crit for 140%-265%.

[ancev]

Yea, OP did say he's "crazy" LOL....
no sane archer would use WD, but crazy ones would.

there's a difference between crazy and stupid

[B4nsh33]

I think determination simply makes your crits hit for 1.5*(determination bonus) damage. So lvl 7 determ would make you crit for 1.5*1.35=2.025 damage. It doesn't interfere with ruthlessness in any way. If you have lvl 3 Ruthlessness you would hit for 69%-131% of your average damage, or crit for 140%-265%.

Haven't done the math, but it seems to work if you keep your ruthless % under your det %. My mage almost always does max crit + ruthless when I keep her that way. Mind you thats at wb and I don't bother playing crit mage anywhere else as I use my Illusion and Block astral everywhere else. That's just what one of our top archers told us to do and it seems to work. Test it and see for yourself, I tend to get more with my little lvl 3 purple ruthless at 9% and a lvl 5 det than just using det by itself. Hard to tell though as my crit rate is only around 2400 so I don't crit enough to tell. I need to max out my crit again, but that won't be for a while since CW is coming up soon again, however, I tend to end up with more gold/daru at the end of wb with my ruthless than without, not sure how much though, haven't kept stats.

[jamesbacmon]

well i did WD+Rutlessness with archer i had level 59 archer pve set, it seems to be good, but critical matter for archers, I won't say WD idea is bad it also give decent damage, and also save your 1 slot for astral by ignoring the sniper and determination, it doesn't bring much differece

[phoenix_sam]

that's really a great & crazy idea

[Drag0nsFire]

Do some MPDs like GOD, GOD NM, TL and MD solo