sky trial 3-5 beaten

[Fherlayt]

Hey guys, I just wanted to boast I could beat sky trial 3-5 finally. Since patch 3.1, there is no slow in sky trial, so its not so easy, and I don't even have evolved sylph, so i'm quite proud (although I know a lot ppl get even to 3-10 before pre-patch).

I have a mage character, I collected every info here about stats, strategy etc, maybe this info can help you as well to pass this trial:

http://wartune-balens.blogspot.com/2...-5-beaten.html

[pietjeprecies]

Some say Skytrail doesnt work on mdef or pdef.
So you should have changed the mdef and pdef gems into block gems.

[mydnight0]

Gratz man, glad there is some still doing Skytrail. after that crazy patch lol

[Wraithraiser]

Still a long way for me, with practically no dark res she 1-2 shots me lol

Anyway, only worth it has to me is if I get a hades, get it purple, get divinity shards and then have the potential to S-rank it for the extra tear .... aside from that, eh. 2 horns would be nice but not game breaking.

[papashai]

allways knew mages are overpowered

[kimwong]

before having hades/aegis I won't try 3-5 anymore >_>

I can say, you guide is completely wrong for knight and archer, you need to try 3-5 with hercules and see how much dmg you received

for me it is 150K blocked each hit

[Nolikeki]

Some say Skytrail doesnt work on mdef or pdef.
So you should have changed the mdef and pdef gems into block gems.

Def DOES work in sky trial, it just have a lesser effect. The formulae is alway
(atk - def) / 2 * multipliers
But in pvp, you have a lot of multipliers: pvp medal, skill multiplier, time multiplier, crit multipler etc. So defense is very important there.
For example, atk: 60000, defense: 40000
(60000 - 40000) / 2 * delphic skill (4) medal (1.2) - time multiplier (1.5) * critical (2) = so a 10.000 base damage becomes 144.000! (which will be reduced by your resist, goddess blessing etc)
If you increase your defense by 10.000, then the damage will be 72.000!

In player-vs-monster, the monster dont have multipliers (only maybe a skill bonus), they just have a huge attack bonus. Like, sky trial boss have 368.000 ATK
So its just
(368.000 - 40000) / 2 * skill modifier (2). = 328.000 (which your resist, goddess blessing etc will reduce)
If you increase your defense by 10.000, then the damage will be 318.000 - insignificant.

And yes, I did unequip my PDEF astral, but had MDEF astal on. 60k MDEF is "just" 30k damage reduce, but every little counts. (but you right, having block gems instead of MDEF could have been even better, but I didn't have to expermient further, this was enough).

More detail on how combat works:
http://wartune-balens.blogspot.com/p...une-basic.html

[Nolikeki]

I can say, you guide is completely wrong for knight and archer, you need to try 3-5 with hercules and see how much dmg you received

for me it is 150K blocked each hit

You take that much damage because your dark resist is not high enough. That's why I said, if you don't have a Hades, you need at least 5 x lvl 6 Dark resist crystals, and refine goddess blessing astral slot skyhigh. In such a fight, absolute dmg reducers (like defense) dont help much, but percentage reducers and percentage heals like resist and heal rune are very important. the boss damage is
round 1, round 4 etc: (368k - your defense) / 2 * resist * goddess blessing
round 2, 3, 5, 6 etc: (368k - your defense) * resist * goddess blessing

if a dark resist of 205, you get a 0.75 multiplier to this damage. With a dark resist of 410, you get a 0.5 multiplier.

[kimwong]

You take that much damage because your dark resist is not high enough. That's why I said, if you don't have a Hades, you need at least 5 x lvl 6 Dark resist crystals, and refine goddess blessing astral slot skyhigh. In such a fight, absolute dmg reducers (like defense) dont help much, but percentage reducers and percentage heals like resist and heal rune are very important. the boss damage is
round 1, round 4 etc: (368k - your defense) / 2 * resist * goddess blessing
round 2, 3, 5, 6 etc: (368k - your defense) * resist * goddess blessing

if a dark resist of 205, you get a 0.75 multiplier to this damage. With a dark resist of 410, you get a 0.5 multiplier.

5 lvl 6 RES? how many of us had it? I think even some heavy cashers don't have it, so not a reasonable suggestion
even I got 5 lvl 6, 72 x 5 - 100 = 260, still much less than using hades

[pietjeprecies]

Def DOES work in sky trial, it just have a lesser effect. The formulae is alway
(atk - def) / 2 * multipliers
But in pvp, you have a lot of multipliers: pvp medal, skill multiplier, time multiplier, crit multipler etc. So defense is very important there.
For example, atk: 60000, defense: 40000
(60000 - 40000) / 2 * delphic skill (4) medal (1.2) - time multiplier (1.5) * critical (2) = so a 10.000 base damage becomes 144.000! (which will be reduced by your resist, goddess blessing etc)
If you increase your defense by 10.000, then the damage will be 72.000!

In player-vs-monster, the monster dont have multipliers (only maybe a skill bonus), they just have a huge attack bonus. Like, sky trial boss have 368.000 ATK
So its just
(368.000 - 40000) / 2 * skill modifier (2). = 328.000 (which your resist, goddess blessing etc will reduce)
If you increase your defense by 10.000, then the damage will be 318.000 - insignificant.

And yes, I did unequip my PDEF astral, but had MDEF astal on. 60k MDEF is "just" 30k damage reduce, but every little counts. (but you right, having block gems instead of MDEF could have been even better, but I didn't have to expermient further, this was enough).

More detail on how combat works:
http://wartune-balens.blogspot.com/p...une-basic.html

And you know the formule, because?

[Fherlayt]

And you know the formule, because?

Combat formulae is now public, we reverse-enginereed it with lot of testings:
http://wartune-balens.blogspot.com/p...une-basic.html

Here is an article in specific about figuring out sky trial 3-5 boss stats, like its attack and resist:
http://wartune-balens.blogspot.com/2...s-descent.html

[izui.org]

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