Lose Life = Lose Honor

[JustAmanda]

[B]
example: I'm a new viceroy and just recently wear my orange slayers orb and i enter pvp like sengolia. for sure i will lose honors and more death means more lose of honor will i get demoted to elector? and i wont be able to use my orange slayers orb which needs the VICEROY rank..

I'll do my best to find out about this, but I probably will not get any answers until Monday at this point.

[HuGgEr]

OK, according what we found out, Memory's guess was actually pretty close. It was in our bug tracking system that people were not getting honor for kills in Seng. The devs fixed it, but it wasn't reported to us through the regular channels so we didn't know to add it to the patch notes. We apologize for that. But also, while fixing this bug, it also triggered the script for people to lose honor when killed. However, this is how the system was designed to work in the first place and the devs didn't realize there was a problem. Hence my OP stating that the system was working properly; the devs thought it was.

So, long story short, sorry the change was not added to the patch notes, but the way the system is functioning now is how it is supposed to function so we are not planning on making any further adjustments to the system at this time. But we will discuss it further with the team on Monday.

one more thing regarding this matter amanda which we need to clarify..

example: I'm a new viceroy and just recently wear my orange slayers orb and i enter pvp like sengolia. for sure i will lose honors and more death means more lose of honor will i get demoted to elector? and i wont be able to use my orange slayers orb which needs the VICEROY rank..

P.S.

Please try to train some of your moderators to ask staffs regarding matters that are being asked by players before they answer because they answer the Question or Solve it in just answering it in their way.

TNX CHEARS

[JustAmanda]

OK, according what we found out, Memory's guess was actually pretty close. It was in our bug tracking system that people were not getting honor for kills in Seng. The devs fixed it, but it wasn't reported to us through the regular channels so we didn't know to add it to the patch notes. We apologize for that. But also, while fixing this bug, it also triggered the script for people to lose honor when killed. However, this is how the system was designed to work in the first place and the devs didn't realize there was a problem. Hence my OP stating that the system was working properly; the devs thought it was.

So, long story short, sorry the change was not added to the patch notes, but the way the system is functioning now is how it is supposed to function so we are not planning on making any further adjustments to the system at this time. But we will discuss it further with the team on Monday.

[HuGgEr]

Yes, I'm watching the thread, talking to players. I think something might be wrong. I'm investigating now.



I'll let you all know what I find out.

yeah that's what i keep saying amanda. I'm not noob on this things because i had managed online game matters. it such that some of your mods just answer things even they don't know whats the real thing behind it. if you need my help on this just see me or msg me in game or here..

thanks god you got what i had been talking about.

[Cats15]

I understand where hugger is coming from but as gm amanda stated already this thing is part of the game from the very beginning that we were not used to becaused it was not working. I think the only issue here is that there was a miscommunication about it that should have been announce by r2. Anyway we can complain but this is a part of the game that we have to get used to.

[JustAmanda]

Honor related to kills is new. I used to work out honor gains and always just got 80/240 for a lose/win. no other amount from seng.

Maybe i missed the point lol

Yes, I'm watching the thread, talking to players. I think something might be wrong. I'm investigating now.



I'll let you all know what I find out.

[BrotherVT]

NOPE! well dont just answer brotherVT let the R2 staffs be the one to explain and answer all. i had made a email for them. direct to the GMS and admins

You're the one crying about this whole situation - and you're telling me not to answer?
If you wanted an official answer, you should have filed a ticket from the get-go.

Your fail point has been overruled.
What's your next troll attempt?

You could just announce it with the new update like :Fixed an issue with honor.or something like this.

Read what MemoryLane said.

[tonyval]

You could just announce it with the new update like :Fixed an issue with honor.or something like this.

[Sidoh]

-eats popcorn- this thread went pretty far o.o for just 2-3 people

[HuGgEr]

She clearly explained right there.

NOPE! well dont just answer brotherVT let the R2 staffs be the one to explain and answer all. i had made a email for them. direct to the GMS and admins

[BrotherVT]

My educated guess is that the devs didn't know we didn't know about the system, or even that is was "broken" before, and that when doing maintenance the code was fixed without even knowing it was being fixed. This would explain why there was no announcement about it, and why this post was created in the first place.

So, a bug staff didn't even know existed got fixed.

She clearly explained right there.

[HuGgEr]

Right... Changes/bug fixes/content added are listed in the patch notes we see, but we don't see the entire change log of course. What I was trying to say is- if the devs didn't know it was something that was broken, how would they know to put it in the patch notes as fixed?

they will surely know it and add it on the "CHANGE OF LOGS" because if they don.t know that it was bug how can they come up with it being fixed. in other words they had knew it and come up with the fixes during the last release.. that's why there it goes. RIGHT?

Example: I'm the one of the developer of the game, and your a client who payed for the server files with a lifetime update privilege.. as a developer i will surely know and get feedbacks from my costumer oh this thing is bug you need to work on it. and as a developer i will know what things are bug on the files i have because i test it before i release it to see and check if the "CHANGE OF LOGS" will be similar to what will i release and update.. just and insight after on my experience.

and as the client, the developer will release me or give me a List or change of logs.

[MemoryLane]

every maintenance they have patch notes of what is fixed and what was added. right? and this fixes comes from the developers.. which we call "CHANGE OF LOGS" and this "CHANGE OF LOGS" was the note of what developers had fixed, added or even changed from the old configuration of server files or SERVER side which will be released after update or server or maintenance of the server.. That is my whole knowledge on what developers release to its customers. because even I my self had been working on some ONline games like MUONLINE. where in we buy server files from mobius and upon update of the files from them they make "CHANGE OF LOGS" which was the FIXES, Additions and NEW features what was included on the new release.

just want to share it.

Right... Changes/bug fixes/content added are listed in the patch notes we see, but we don't see the entire change log of course. What I was trying to say is- if the devs didn't know it was something that was broken, how would they know to put it in the patch notes as fixed?

[Harmbringer]

My understanding of this issue is that it is not a bug or a new thing. This is how the game has always been, but some people did not realize it and were filing tickets over it. We are just making sure that everyone is aware of this system.

Honor related to kills is new. I used to work out honor gains and always just got 80/240 for a lose/win. no other amount from seng.

Maybe i missed the point lol

[HuGgEr]

My educated guess is that the devs didn't know we didn't know about the system, or even that is was "broken" before, and that when doing maintenance the code was fixed without even knowing it was being fixed. This would explain why there was no announcement about it, and why this post was created in the first place.

So, a bug staff didn't even know existed got fixed.

every maintenance they have patch notes of what is fixed and what was added. right? and this fixes comes from the developers.. which we call "CHANGE OF LOGS" and this "CHANGE OF LOGS" was the note of what developers had fixed, added or even changed from the old configuration of server files or SERVER side which will be released after update or server or maintenance of the server.. That is my whole knowledge on what developers release to its customers. because even I my self had been working on some ONline games like MUONLINE. where in we buy server files from mobius and upon update of the files from them they make "CHANGE OF LOGS" which was the FIXES, Additions and NEW features what was included on the new release.

just want to share it.