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    Right.

    Here I am staring at the screen for an hour and stuck on my choices. Here is what I've got to decide - I only have four slots, like most for my astrals. Now... Here are the ones I currently have:

    Current Astral Value: 3716

    -> [Gold] Pristine Force Lvl 4 (equipped) [PAtk +864]
    -> [Lavender] Refined Sniper's Edge Lvl 4 (equipped) [Crit +576]
    -> [Gold] Pristine Fortitude Lvl 4 (equipped) [PDef +864]
    -> [Gold] Pristine Willpower Lvl 4 (equipped) [MDef +864]

    -> [Gold] Pristine Enshieldment Lvl 1 [Block +216]
    -> [Gold] Pristine Brilliance Lvl 1 [HP +500]
    -> [Lavender] Aegis Lvl 3 [Reduce all damage values by 60]
    -> [Lavender] Goddess Blessing Lvl 2 [Reduce all damage by 4%]
    -> [Lavender] Regeneration Lvl 2 [Regain HP equivalent to 10% of damage dealt, 10% trigger rate, restore 30000 HP at the most]
    -> [Lavender] Will Destroyer Lvl 1 [Disable Critical Strike, but regular damage is increase by 2%]
    -> [Lavender] Refined Charm Lvl 1 [Charisma +24]
    -> [Blue] Blessed Health Lvl 3 [10% chance to gain 450 HP when attacking]

    These are what I have to choose from or upgrade. My current Star Pts are 5-6.5K, so I can't buy a [Gold] class astral at the moment, but could get a [Lavendar] class (sry - it looks either lavendar or pink, depending on what computer I use).

    Here are my stats as is at present. Ignoring all the other bonuses, let's just focus on the astral question.

    Archer Lvl 41

    PAtk: 5578
    PDef: 4110
    MAtk: (irrelavent)
    MDef: 3892
    Crit: 1020
    Block: 261
    HP: 14817
    Troops 694

    Now, not all of the above astrals have a replacement among the higher class groups. For instance, Blessed health doesn't have a Red type.

    Anyway, I'm stuck. Which should I level and which should I equip? I'm having trouble staying alive. The regeneration types and the damage reducers seem beneficial to my needs. BUT if I were to use those, WHAT would I not use?


    Like I said. I'm staring at the screen and completely roadblocked.


  • #2
    imo, your current astrals are the best. when you open a 5th slot, add goddess blessing for defense. 6th slot would be determination.

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    • #3
      As Archer you need Determination badly.. it will boost your Damage on Crits by 2k minimum

      Your Star Points are close to 7k so spend some more Gold on Astrals till you reach 7k and buy Gold Determination, which should be your 5th Astral upon reaching 50.
      BUT i personally would replace Willpower with Determination as soon as you get it, and set Willpower as your 5th


      What you should upgrade:
      - Enshieldment (only gold or red)
      - Brilliance (only if Red)
      - Godess Blessing (gold)
      - Guardian Angel (gold)

      What you should NOT use or upgrade:
      - Regenration
      - Blessed health
      - Aegis
      - Will Destroyer
      - Charm
      - Ruthlessness
      - MATK


      So at lv50 you should have:
      - Force
      - Snipers Edge
      - Fortitude
      - Determination
      - Willpower

      Add at lv60: (You get 2 slots by finishing a Quest)
      - Godess Blessing
      - Brilliance

      Add at lv70:
      - Enshieldment

      Add at lv80: (2 slots with Class Advancement)
      - Guardian Angel
      - Illusion OR Regeneration (i recommend Illusion)


      After that, you collect Star Points and try to get Sacred Gemini for 45k Points, which should then replace Guardian Angel or Illusion.
      Last edited by Corti2; 09-28-2014, 03:24 PM.

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      • #4
        Finally, something that makes sense. Thx. :3

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        • #5
          Someone can put their recommendations for the other classes on this thread as well for those using those.

          What are the recommendations for lvl 50, 60, 70, and 80:

          A. Knight
          B. Mage
          C. and I would have sworn there was a fourth class... Drawing a blank again. If there isn't, then there should be. heh.

          So Recommendations for Astral sets?

          :3

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          • #6
            Actually its the same for all Classes

            Mages (With Priority)
            1. Matk
            2. Mdeff
            3. Pdeff
            4. Will Destroyer (replace with Determination later)
            5. Godess Blessing
            6. Brilliance
            7. Enshieldment
            8. Snipers Edge
            9. Regeneration
            10. Illusion


            Knights:
            1. Patk
            2. Pdeff
            3. Mdeff
            4. Brilliance
            5. Enshieldment
            6. Will Destroyer (replace with Determination later)
            7. Godess Blessing
            8. Illusion
            9. Snipers Edge
            10. Regeneration


            I'd say go with Will Destroyer till lv60, then replace with Determination and use the extra Slot for Snipers Edge

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            • #7
              I suggest these for archer:
              Lvl 30: Patk,Mdef,Pdef
              Lvl 40: Patk,Crit,Det,RGB
              Lvl 50: Patk,Crit,Det,RGB,Pdef
              knight:
              Lvl 30: Patk,Mdef,Pdef
              Lvl 40: Patk,EWD,RGB,Mdef
              Lvl 50: Patk,EWD,RGB,Mdef,Block
              mage:
              Lvl 30: Matk,Mdef,Pdef
              Lvl 40: Patk,EWD,RGB,Pdef
              Lvl 50: Patk,EWD,RGB,Pdef,(Block or Mdef)

              for any class (replace w/ matk for mage):
              Lvl 60: Patk,Crit,Det,RGB,Block,Gemini,EGA
              Lvl 70: Patk,Crit,Det,RGB,Illusion,Block,Gemini,EGA
              Lvl 80: Patk,Crit Det,RGB,Illusion,Block,Gemini,EGA,HP, (last slot: pisces,deflection,or regen up2u)

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              • #8
                For Knights I would say priority of obtainment would be P.atk, M.def, Will Destroyer, Determination, Snipers edge, Goddess blessing, Enshieldment, Illusion, P.def, and then Gemini.

                Upgrade order is a little different once start looking at going past level 4 or 5. for astrals. Will Destroyer, Goddess Blessing, and Illusion would be first ones I would recommend upgrading past 5. Eventually when you can have a fair amount of crit, you will want to consider feeding your Will Destroyer into your determination astral.

                Corti is fairly right on for it being nearly the same astrals for each class. Big difference is Archers should not touch will destroyer due to their much improved crit rates, which means running Determination much earlier, while mages and knights are best served by running Will Destroyer until they have plenty of crit available that they can start relying on them.

                The other thing to keep in mind is which astrals you should be using change based on what you are doing, which can make it hard to give set levels to use some astrals. Take World Boss for example, since they are significantly easier to crit, you get much more benefit running Snipers Edge and Determination instead of Will Destroyer for them. Another example is Aegis, if you get refined Aegis in the low levels it is increadibly useful, however once you get into the mid 50's Goddess Blessing catches up and then overtakes it, but due to how the two work, it all depends on your opponents strength as to which is better. So for low level PvE Aegis would be prefered, however in arena and Battlegrounds, it is very possible that goddess blessing is better.

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                • #9
                  um can a lvl 40 use a sacred gemini?

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                  • #10
                    Please remember to note also, if you're to use Will Destroyer, to remember to take out any Crit gems or astrals. You are able to swap them in and out (perhaps for situations such as World Boss). On that note, Will Destroyer (in my opinion) is a throw away for Archers. It would be like building a mage with no heal, or a knight with no defence. WD is best used for Mages and Knights if to be used at all.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kulaydosan View Post
                      um can a lvl 40 use a sacred gemini?
                      No, the first advanced astral slot unlocks at level 60, the second unlocks at level 80, when the advanced class features are unlocked.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mentor_WTT View Post
                        Please remember to note also, if you're to use Will Destroyer, to remember to take out any Crit gems or astrals. You are able to swap them in and out (perhaps for situations such as World Boss). On that note, Will Destroyer (in my opinion) is a throw away for Archers. It would be like building a mage with no heal, or a knight with no defence. WD is best used for Mages and Knights if to be used at all.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Imonseph View Post
                          You don't want your sylph dephic to crit? :-o
                          i'm perfectly fine with my will destroyer build. but then again, im a no payer with only basic sylph skills. dont know for sure i want to get a crit build, it feals so random for me to critt. maybe if i have a good medusa or something with critt rate increasing skills ill change that.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Corti2 View Post
                            Actually its the same for all Classes

                            Mages (With Priority)
                            1. Matk
                            2. Mdeff
                            3. Pdeff
                            4. Will Destroyer (replace with Determination later)
                            5. Godess Blessing
                            6. Brilliance
                            7. Enshieldment
                            8. Snipers Edge
                            9. Regeneration
                            10. Illusion

                            Huh? Mdef and brilliance?! No.

                            Mages, imo, matk, pdef, EWD (to be replaced later with determination and snipers edge), goddess blessing, mdef, enshieldment, guardian angel, illusion... regeneration if you must!
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