The reason why players afk at battle grounds

[GreyPhoenix]

Often we will see some afkers in battle ground, first thought that would struck me is arggh, alts accounts again, spoil the match. And today, I became an afker myself, and this is my only main account. I got an understanding why these players choose to be afkers, even though some of the faces are familiar in arena - they didn't choose to be naked or afk in arena, but why choose to afk in battle grounds?

Because they understood this earlier than I am, the matching system in battle grounds, is not random.

I noticed this thanks to the player Cerden. Cerden is a strong player who will attract a lot attention in any battle ground matches, because he always goes for the guardian npc. And for 5 matches IN A ROW, I have been placed in the opposite team against Cerden, which means for several days I have to see this same player's name appeared over, and over again, in all of my matches. If it is a random, the maths will already proved it wrong immediately.



How many players in my server? I took an estimation of 300 (the least), which the number I could see in World Boss event.
30 players in one battle ground room.
That means 300 players, result in 10 battle ground rooms.

The chances of me meeting Cerden in 10 rooms, is 0.10.
The chances of Cerden always in the opposite team, is 0.50.
Thus for one match, the possibility for this to happen, is 0.10x0.50 = 0.05

The chances that this will happen in 5 matches in a row, which Cerden and myself are always in a same room, and each on the opposite team, is 0.05x0.05x0.05x0.05x0.05
Result in a possibility of 0.0000003125

Politely said, almost zero :\
And today I saw it happens right in front of my eyes.
Given still, I assume the minimum number of rooms, are only 10 -.-

I would not have noticed if its a 5 loses in a row, but when Cerden is appearing in the opposite team in every of my matches, when you happen to see similiar faces in your matches, naturally it will attract your attention isn't it? That's where your matching system tell us so. It attracts my attention, and I started to give in a few thoughts.




If I am not mistaken, for those of us who had played the game for some time, we would have an idea which player is strong or such, or which player is a vip, mvp, or cash players, etc etc, familiar names we had met in arenas or battle grounds.

Thus in battle grounds, when these vips, cash players are being assigned to a particular team, it can be noticed that the average battle ratings of the players in his team, are usually higher, compared to the other team. You could try observe this out in the following battle ground matches.

PS: And in the 5th match against Cerden which I decided to afk the entire game, there a lot of vips in a same, single team, and more than half the players' battle rating in Cerden team are 20k or above 20k, while my team are all 10k++. This is the same as matching Lin Dan to a mid school badminton player and you tried to convince to all others, that it is a "good game".




This mean the matching system is not based on random. Higher BR players will always be assigned to the team where the cash players landed in. This is the same as saying that the system is assigning easy targets for cash players to kill, and easy games for them to win, all the time, by providing kids and babies for adults to match in their matches, and making it believe that their cash has been worth spending.

It may be good in term of marketing, but somehow you know... it kind of hurting my ego, especially for a non cash player such as myself.




Personally, I strongly believe, whether pay cash or non cash, no one would desire to be a play doll in one's hand. Win or lose, what we want is a free battle to enjoy, not a battle which the result is being fixed by a party, even before the match begins.

Kindly please respect the players who play your game, don't treat us like an idiot, because that is really insulting, we came into the game that you promoted, introduced, in order to play the game you provided with the players all around the world, not to provide ourselves to be played by you.

This is why some players choose to afk in base, because they realise this, earlier than I did.



I will not choose to believe the admins will purposely assign me to be a different team against Cerden, because I am a nobody in the game and admins are not such a free person to admit such a nonsense act. I would rather believe in logics and reasons. Thus if elaborate it further on, this is the only explanation I could find out.

More or less, I had been spending weeks and months in your game, it would really disappoint me a lot if it end out as a service such as this. 5 games with Cerden in the opposite team in a row, is not even possible to be happening. The chain will more likely to be broken in my third match at least, which I won't see Cerden again in my matches.

The possibility is just too low. The maths don't allow it to happen, not I do not allow it to happen, if it happens, then it is simple to understand, your matching system, is not randomly based, that's all.

And these few days your system is matching me against Cerden, not to mention I had to wake up with a sleepy eye on an alarm clock ringing just to see Cerden's face in 3 continuous days and play 5 continuous losing game, and not to mention you refuse to split battle grounds events into two separate timing zone to suit our time table.



I had been playing online games for a long time. Overally, there are 2 types of online game developers, winner type and loser type. Winner focus on the number of the players in server so that their server will always full of players, while loser focus on how much cost they charge per item.

Winner developers are willing to spend to promote, to attract more players come to play before they start to earn profit. Loser scare to lose money in every step and using every tricks possible to force player to buy items all the time. Winner do not need to spend effort in forcing item purchasing in their server, because when they make the players happy, naturally their server will be crowded, crowded attracts more players, more players increase competition, competitions encourage payments. That's all it takes.

I pick your game because it is announced your game reach a million player in a very short time, because you shows signs of a winner. I had spent months in your game. WEEKS, and MONTHS. Kindly please tell me that I had picked the right game and my time had been worth playing in your server, kindly please. Manipulating the matchings in a match, is the last thing a winner will ever need to do.

If you want to convince me that I am wrong, then please prove me wrong in the incoming battle ground matches after today, which we would not always see the average battle ratings in the cash player team, are higher than the other team, all the time. Have faith and put trust in your cash players supporters, if they can pay, they definitely can win. They do not need a handicap for that.

[anupras]

Such long threads to read it all.. but i will post my experiences early.

I faced a heavy payer as enemy for about 10 matches in a row and only got him as teammate for 1 match. and then 1.5 patch came.

[R27125221]

Dont throw the mouse on the floor and go and watch porn -Stick da boot in !!!! gang bang the monster, evenutally your side will get the points back of him/her. It wont go away all by itself woo Hoo !!!

[DeathRiver]

Stop feeding this kind of troll guys, feed me instead cause I'm cute.

[Barbarossa]

And I looked through most of this post and my question is ***? Speaking from experience about the BGs on S6...it is completely random and BR has no role in the matching. I've had the full range of matches in BG. Ones where the team I was on was OP and won easily, matches where the other team was OP and then I've had matches that came down to less than a 100 points. My only thought is maybe there aren't that many players doing the BG?

[Barbarossa]

So you troll the BG? showing up and not playing ruins the game for other people. it means that your team has one less person doing runs. They should put in a resource requirement that you have to hit so many star points before you get insignia's and it would stop some of this afk garbage.

350 star points are easy to get. if you don't get 350 star points at sometime during the game you don't get insignia's. tired of seeing people afk in the Bg and i lose. which means i lose insignia's. it takes me 2 times longer to get there. one game my team had 4 people afk or standing around.

350 star points aren't easy to get. I don't think I've done it in the last 10 BGs I was in. Does it mean I'm not doing anything? No. I kill other players and I heal if my team is up. Not sure what % you lose in points when you are beaten but I've lost around 37 points after some defeats.

[NeenaFelisha]

i Love Battle Ground ..

[DeGAUL]

GreyPhoenix, you're question is pointless and non-existent. You're like a blind man in dark room looking for black cat that isn't there.

People are not ganging up on you. It is just that you're perception how the "BG Teaming" works is funny, weird and totally ridiculous. Please do away with the suffering martyr complex. This is isn't the case here.

Beware, someone had said that when a person says, "I am not crazy but the world is", you're stepping close in the cuckoo line.

Please dont flatter and delude yourself of your "EQ". Get off your high-horse because we also play the game, see the same thing, experience the same thing. We might not be in your "EQ" level (Thank, God!), but I think we do all right in the thinking department.

I may not know what is true, but I know ****. You're question is ****.

You want to find the answer to your question? Get a VIP. For $8, you might find your answer.

My take.

[DeathRiver]

So you troll the BG? showing up and not playing ruins the game for other people. it means that your team has one less person doing runs. They should put in a resource requirement that you have to hit so many star points before you get insignia's and it would stop some of this afk garbage.

350 star points are easy to get. if you don't get 350 star points at sometime during the game you don't get insignia's. tired of seeing people afk in the Bg and i lose. which means i lose insignia's. it takes me 2 times longer to get there. one game my team had 4 people afk or standing around.

350 Star Points isn't easy if you're weaker than even 3 players in the other team. You'll get nailed every time you get out camp.

[ludin]

I cant go BG during the week cause of my real life schedule, so I ask my friend to take me and leave me there afk... just saying

So you troll the BG? showing up and not playing ruins the game for other people. it means that your team has one less person doing runs. They should put in a resource requirement that you have to hit so many star points before you get insignia's and it would stop some of this afk garbage.

350 star points are easy to get. if you don't get 350 star points at sometime during the game you don't get insignia's. tired of seeing people afk in the Bg and i lose. which means i lose insignia's. it takes me 2 times longer to get there. one game my team had 4 people afk or standing around.

[Warcurse]

I'm not gonna debate on the OP's theory, but I'd just like to add... not every afk'ers in BG do it for that, personally I cant go BG during the week cause of my real life schedule, so I ask my friend to take me and leave me there afk... just saying
And no I didnt read all posts, sorry if it has been mentioned.

[R23955703]

Phoenix. I understand your point and your arguments but I must say that I haven`t done those experiences in the BG yet. I have been in the BG several times and some of the strongest people on my server have been on my side as well against me. And of course there have been VIP players against me, but there have also been some in my team. So I can't support your view that there is some kind of hidden formular or the teams are created in favor of the cash players. I don`t say that you are wrong maybe there is...but I haven't noticed it yet (and I indeed paid attention of it). yeah the possibility of meeting one person 5 time in a row is almost 0 and it is really frustrating, but almost 0 is not =0. so it can happen. Maybe you simply had extrem bad luck.

And about the Arena. I think it would be the best way that the difference of the average lvl of the two teams are fighting against each other should not be higher than... lets say 3 lvl. And I agree with you in point of the surrender button.

[MemoryLane]

They are afraid of the question I throw on them. That's why all the anonymous account names appeared here, and not even one of them comes from a moderator.
They have no answer to my question. That's why all they can do is trying to provoke me, and telling me to ditch the game.

Game discussion section of the forums is for players to discuss the game. It seems like you are making a suggestion, from the very brief skim through I did on a couple of your posts. I'm sure they are quite informative and would probably read into them more if I played the game more than once in a while.

Just out of curiosity- what was the question?

[GreyPhoenix]

That's very low of all of you. You can choose to scold me, to tease me, and name me in every different impolite and ugly names that you can think off your mind, that's just show how lowly your EQ is, and how degenerated your souls are.

Since my first post in this thread, all I did is just trying to list out the evidences and proofs, providing by solid data and statistic for a reference, and then followed by logical elaborations and the reasons behind, on how these data leads to my assumptions are.

And you are trying to persuade me to ditch the game, to forget what I had seen, to forget what I had found, just like that?


You are wrong. All of you are so wrong here. I am not here to whine? I am not here to ask for a secret way how to win the BG?

If you matching system is "truely" based on random, I have no problem in losing. Losing a game doesn't mean I have no chance to enjoy in it. What I get is what I get. If I what I got is a losing team, then I will just accept the result and continue the game till it ends. That's the kind of player I am, I do not need to bother to keep ditching matches just to find a winning team.

But unfortunately what the data shows is, your system, is not randomly based, not a random, neither do the A-B A-B way.




Treat the game as a matter of life and death? That's so immature and naive, for a comment.

When I am interested in finding an answer to a question for myself, I am not that kind of person, that will give up finding the answer easily. That's the spirit of a math student. The lecturer threw you an equation, and you got to find your way out for the answer yourself. Telling me to ditch game, will not work on me.



What I am asking here is:
I had found a rather disturbing and illogical data set from the BG team matching has provided me to, and I am asking for an explanation for an answer here, that HOW your BG matching system, is able to provide THESE KIND OF DATA SET for me, in all my 6 matches.

That's all I asked, HOW, and WHY.

To be more precise, what I want is the EXACT FORMULA of how you BG matching system works. So please stop telling me about the A-B A-B ****, I am not going to believe a single bit in it.





BUT did you try to give that to me? No, you didn't. In fact, there is a wave of pattern in your replies. And I will show you what are them.

3 DAYS HAS PASSES since I posted my question up here. None of you can provide an answer to my question.





Firstly, you are telling me to ditch the game, hoping I would forget what I saw, and continue to play your game like nothing had happened before.
A game, which is full of manipulations.

Then, you started to insult me, to provoke me. You are telling me that I am delutional, a pathethic poor weakling, who do not pay in the game, should just die in BG just like that, etc etc.

After that, you found these words are still not harsh enough for me. And you further in by start giving me names, calling me a troll, a loser, a bad player, etc etc.


That's just so immature, and naive. You are just so wrong. You don't even realize what you are talking yourselves.

To a person who is trying so hard to find out an answer to a question here, and all of your kind of responses and replies that you are giving me, will just look kind of weird to me.

Obviously, you are avoiding my question.





However, I believe I have already got myself an answer here.

3 DAYS have passes. And you still can't give me an answer. THAT ALONE, IS ALREADY AN ANSWER ITSELF.



At this stage, I am sorry to tell you that, I don't even need anymore data sets to prove my points.

I will just point out ONE TRUE FACT, and all of you, will be totally out of words.




THIS THREAD HAS MORE THAN 1,400 VIEWS. MORE THAN 3 DAYS HAD PASSED. IF YOU SCROLL UP THROUGH THESE REPLIES, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE POST FROM THE GAME MODERATOR, IS TRYING TO REPLY IN MY THREAD.


They are afraid of the question I throw on them. That's why all the anonymous account names appeared here, and not even one of them comes from a moderator.
They have no answer to my question. That's why all they can do is trying to provoke me, and telling me to ditch the game.



For those who had read my post, I am sure you can recall what's the story of the farmer and the son, that I had told you before.
I think I had done enough of my role here, trying to show you what is a pear. And its up to you now to choose to believe, whether is it a pear, or an apple. No one can help you more upon that.

Best of luck to all the players of the "Wartune".

[R22613084]

Why are ppl a troll if they talk about stuff you dont know anything about?
every little thing GreyPhoenix tells us. Is the same what i have noticed.

Well i believe that it is made for money, we all do.
and we all know that,(even if your right) it wont change a thing.

The group of cashers is still good for them.
and now the forum is kinda chill about it.
But when the hell opens, they just take the game down.

And i know most of you have had this happen to a game you played before.


I wanne know what the point is of playing this game, i its all a scam?
why are u here? what is the fun part in this game that you are still here?
all the time in the research, so there must be something good about this game right?

let me know if u can post without making the game look bad