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  • Mat-san
    started a topic Arena matching

    Arena matching

    Why cant you fix a matching system more fair?? There must be more then 4 teams total in arena no??? How fun is it you think for ppl to face same OP cashers all the time??? If this game was more fair maybe more ppl would spend some cash for your benefit.. but constantly get ***** by your lousy matching system and unfair thinking stops that for many....

    I know you only in it for the cash.. but you want more.. make it more fair.

    TY for the opportunity to speak here.

  • R239359925
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    I have thought about this a little more, and maybe this is not going to be the best received idea. In the real world, there are some sports competitions where you have to pay an "Entry Fee" in order to participate. Perhaps, the arena could be divided into levels, and either as a player, or as a team, you must pay that fee to participate at that level. That fee could be either Balens, or Gold.

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  • R295094849
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    That's the thing -- No one "loses" anything. What I've noticed is that you can lose matches all day for every day of the week, and can still make Gold Group before it resets. Better yet, losing would imply that you "lost" something, but in actuality, you simply gain less. You never go into the Negatives which would've justified a loss. A real lost is losing a battle in BG with Crusader+ ranking, as your honor actually goes in the Negatives. In GA, everyone gains something regardless if they defeated their opponent or not. In the end, those who "lose" something are those with an ego that just won't quit, LOL. Gain some humility, people. Learn that in this world, even online, money gets you to the horizon faster, you simply have to be patient for your part of the ride. ^_-

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  • D.A.N.T.E.
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    Ther's my advice to solve your arena matching probleme , if the it's close to 20 secondes restart , worked for my guildies .

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  • R239359925
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    To add to what I said, before. Perhaps the problem is not in the programming, but in a lack of participation. Any matching you install is not going to work well if there are only two teams to choose from. Perhaps it would be better to limit the event to thirty minuites instead of two hours. I would like to see the data you collected that proves the number of participating teams remains constant throughout the entire event.
    Last edited by R239359925; 12-14-2014, 09:54 PM. Reason: additional request

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  • KillaCujo
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    Originally posted by Kravet View Post
    Maybe use average total br in the groups, you realy think it is fun to figth some op players?
    agreed, matching by BR would help a lot.. but not as much as it would in battlegrounds... win or lose u gain in arena.... 1 loss in battlegrounds could ruin someones whole day.

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  • KillaCujo
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    Originally posted by Mentor_Alex View Post
    Hello.
    I would love to see some more info about this.
    Since the matchmaking system has not been made official,it's hard to predict how it works.
    Also,I would like to see your opinion on what "fair" means.
    I agree it's nice to fight opponents you can beat,but if let's say this changes your way,then you would only face teams you can beat.Would it be also considered fair for those teams?
    And in the next case,let's say you are 50k br,and in consequence to a changed matchmaking system,you will be able to get all wins,or almost.Would it be fair to the 450k+ BR players that you are put in the same league with them?
    From my point of view,"fair" has started to have personal influence regarding this issue.
    I am always game for changes,but you will need to suggest something that could work,not just state a change.
    This is a suggestion forum,and this topic is missing the suggestion part.
    I welcome everyone to come chip in with their opinions though.
    Take care.

    so battlegrounds work in *0-*9 brackets, and arena has worked in *0-*4 / *5-*9 brackets, and has seemed to work fine.. also.. ive noticed that the higher level in the team changes % of matchmaking opponents (meaning if all are within a 60-64 bracket, most opponents will show that have a 60-64 person in the enemy group, if someone has 3 in the group within 60-64 and the 4th is a 70-74 there is a chance to have enemies of the higher bracket due to the higher level) not hard to control really, considering camping helps control the ebb and flow of arena.

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  • daunapu
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    Originally posted by R27560757SpeeDHunter View Post
    may i join and share my opinion?
    first, those 40k br are level 39s, this only proves that matching is level-based and can easily get to diamond. my theory works
    i also want to improve/change the matching but i havent seen a good suggestion so far, there are too many complications.

    as the time goes on, i just realized that this is a PVP game, someone has to win and someone has to lose, its only natural.
    if all teams just want to win. i dunno if you can call that arena.
    i can tell you or anyone who wants to know how those players and you could get to diamond every week, but in pm

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  • R239359925
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    Unless you want all of the matches to end up in a tie, I do not know if there is really any way to fix this. Type A personalities will always clash.

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  • fenrir67
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    Originally posted by Kravet View Post
    Maybe use average total br in the groups, you realy think it is fun to figth some op players?
    i doubt this will solve the issue, if you take average br, people will use low br players to drop the average br. For example 2 300k br and 2 150k br: average 225k br. im sure 2 300k br will easily whipe the other team if they are all around 225k.

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  • Kravet
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    Originally posted by Mentor_Alex View Post
    Hello.
    I would love to see some more info about this.
    Since the matchmaking system has not been made official,it's hard to predict how it works.
    Also,I would like to see your opinion on what "fair" means.
    I agree it's nice to fight opponents you can beat,but if let's say this changes your way,then you would only face teams you can beat.Would it be also considered fair for those teams?
    And in the next case,let's say you are 50k br,and in consequence to a changed matchmaking system,you will be able to get all wins,or almost.Would it be fair to the 450k+ BR players that you are put in the same league with them?
    From my point of view,"fair" has started to have personal influence regarding this issue.
    I am always game for changes,but you will need to suggest something that could work,not just state a change.
    This is a suggestion forum,and this topic is missing the suggestion part.
    I welcome everyone to come chip in with their opinions though.
    Take care.
    Maybe use average total br in the groups, you realy think it is fun to figth some op players?

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  • ellislsd
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    Originally posted by Billy_McF View Post
    Not 100% true, the level is based upon the highest level in the room. The way to manipulate the matching is by having all the same level, but 1 of these must have a vastly lower BR than the others.
    4 lv 80's, 3 with 250k+ br and 1 with 150-180Kbr who opens the room, this will USUALLY give you an easy matching unless there are a lot of teams employing the same strategy.
    Originally posted by Gulldan View Post
    Disagree.
    When I played we always had a low level (lets say 45-49) and me and another mates (we were lvl 70-71).
    Sometimes, indeed, we got bad matches, all we had to do was reopen the room (always with the low level guy leading) and it worked again.

    Sorry Billy, but it is not related at all with BR, ame and my mates tested it over and over and over...

    Go ask in the most experienced servers you will have the same reply.
    Billy_McF, is totally correct - I personally have won approx 13/15 arena battles using this method no issues what so eva, and I know others that have deployed this method as well with the same results.

    As for Gulldan - its just down to bad luck, or u have met others using this method.

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  • Gulldan
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    Note: I played until August 2014, we had matches 3 X 3 in arena.

    Unless they changed the match criteria in this new patch, I will insist in what I´ve written.

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  • Gulldan
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    Originally posted by Billy_McF View Post
    Not 100% true, the level is based upon the highest level in the room. The way to manipulate the matching is by having all the same level, but 1 of these must have a vastly lower BR than the others.
    4 lv 80's, 3 with 250k+ br and 1 with 150-180Kbr who opens the room, this will USUALLY give you an easy matching unless there are a lot of teams employing the same strategy.
    Disagree.
    When I played we always had a low level (lets say 45-49) and me and another mates (we were lvl 70-71).
    Sometimes, indeed, we got bad matches, all we had to do was reopen the room (always with the low level guy leading) and it worked again.

    Sorry Billy, but it is not related at all with BR, ame and my mates tested it over and over and over...

    Go ask in the most experienced servers you will have the same reply.

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  • Billy_McF
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    Originally posted by Gulldan View Post
    My experience tells me the matching system is done considering the level of the person that opened the room, as Asha just stated
    Not 100% true, the level is based upon the highest level in the room. The way to manipulate the matching is by having all the same level, but 1 of these must have a vastly lower BR than the others.
    4 lv 80's, 3 with 250k+ br and 1 with 150-180Kbr who opens the room, this will USUALLY give you an easy matching unless there are a lot of teams employing the same strategy.

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