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Has anyone actually read the R2Games TOS?

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  • Has anyone actually read the R2Games TOS?

    The next time you are thinking about posting "demands" for compensation for R2's emergency maintenances, please keep in mind the TOS states:

    "Interruption of Our Services

    Our Games are subject to scheduled and unscheduled service interruptions and loss of server data, which you do not own and for which you will not hold us liable. R2Games may on occasion need to interrupt the Services with or without prior notice. You agree that R2Games will not be liable for any interruption of the Services (whether intentional or not), and you understand that you will not be entitled to any refunds of fees or other compensation for interruption of our Services."


    Also, if you are ever banned from the game and want to "threaten" filing a lawsuit, the TOS covers this as well:

    "Denial of Access

    R2Games, for any reason and at its sole discretion, may decide that any person shall be denied access to any part of our Services or Games. R2games may suspend, terminate, modify, or delete any R2Games account or Our Games account at any time for any reason with or without any notice to you.

    You agree to cease and desist immediately from any attempt to access the site upon issuance of a denial. If you do not cease and desist, you hereby consent to an injunction to be entered against you by a court of competent jurisdiction, as provided herein, permanently enjoining you from attempting to access our Services."


    And finally, when you want to complain about "lag" or "bugs" or pretty much anything that isn't working the way it should, and you want to post on the forum that you are going to "sue" them because they "cupcaked you out of your $$$", this is what the TOS says about that:

    "Disclaimer

    R2GAMES SERVICES ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. WHEN PERMITTED BY LAW, R2GAMES DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. R2GAMES DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE FUNCTIONS CONTAINED IN THE SERVICES WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE, THAT DEFECTS WILL BE CORRECTED, OR THAT THESE SERVICES OR THE SERVER THAT MAKES IT AVAILABLE ARE FREE OF VIRUSES OR OTHER HARMFUL COMPONENTS. R2GAMES DOES NOT WARRANT OR MAKE ANY REPRESENTATIONS REGARDING THE USE OR THE RESULTS OF THE USE OF THE MATERIALS IN THESE SERVICES IN TERMS OF THEIR CORRECTNESS, ACCURACY, RELIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE. "



    So basically they can ban or not ban anyone they want to, at any time and for any reason. They also never have to give you ANY compensation for ANYTHING, and can never be held responsible for any problems with the game... AT ALL!

    By playing their game, we all have AGREED to these "Terms Of Service". I guess we should all be a little more grateful when they do give us compensation packs for game problems, or that they do attempt to fix in-game bugs on occasion.

    LMAO

  • #2
    I would like to point out that that ToS is subject to federal, state or provinicial law, and that before going on a rant about suing R2 to check with your local civil lawyer first.

    I am usually grateful we get any compensation at all, Kabam has a bad habit of denying anything went wrong in their products at all.
    IGN: TreeTopper
    Server: whatever the merged Kabam S15/25 is called. I forgot.
    Guild: ESKReborn
    Class: None (Ok..Ok.. Archer)
    Battle Rating: 550547 Currently Retired from Wartune

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    • #3
      read them to me, im lazy
      IGN/Server: Crusader Kabam 62
      Class: Archer
      Battle Rating: 275k (with herc br)

      Guild: Black Lotus
      Sylph: Hercules ★★ 46968
      Originally posted by Wraithraiser
      but yeah. Robo_Hobo for presidente

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      • #4
        I can't read.

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        • #5
          A lot of these games have a similar ToS, you don't own the account, you don't have any rights, simple as that.

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          • #6
            ToS was always meant to provide business protection under legal terms.
            It never was meant to protect the legal rights of the consumers...
            They have to ensure that no consumer can jeopardise their business process to get
            what they want by any other means to even risk a possibility of profit loss as a result.
            But that all consumers will trade in the same manner laid out by the business model itself,
            so that business can continue to hold its operations and make available its services
            to all consumers whom follow its restrictions.

            What's more important is that when you visit a bank website, the ToS can never be as important as whether to detect
            that the bank website is a phishing one by checking if they have a digital certificate certified by VeriSign or not.

            As we all know this is true:
            ~ money makes the world go round
            ~ money is not the problem, but the LOVE of Money is the root of all Evil
            "Why so glum? As if you ate a sour plum,
            Why so grim? I think you need some pimple cream,
            Why so serious? :-o "

            "Game disappointment? If the game won't change, then just change your game! (you play)"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Imonseph View Post
              As we all know this is true:
              ~ money makes the world go round
              ~ money is not the problem, but the LOVE of Money is the root of all Evil
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              woman are the root of all evil*
              IGN/Server: Crusader Kabam 62
              Class: Archer
              Battle Rating: 275k (with herc br)

              Guild: Black Lotus
              Sylph: Hercules ★★ 46968
              Originally posted by Wraithraiser
              but yeah. Robo_Hobo for presidente

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Brutal_Hobo View Post
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                woman are the root of all evil*
                Dang, and you do know the main subject of wartune is right?
                All those fake marriages with female chars, and we don't know what evil is behind the
                persons on these chars playing around those naiive male chars on the server = =
                "Why so glum? As if you ate a sour plum,
                Why so grim? I think you need some pimple cream,
                Why so serious? :-o "

                "Game disappointment? If the game won't change, then just change your game! (you play)"

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                • #9
                  Basic knowledge about MMO ToS in general:
                  -player driven characters in any given MMO, do not belong to players, they belong to the publisher/developer of the game;
                  Why ? Because every bit of information that is stored on their servers belongs to them. Thus the ToS statement. And this applies to every game that it's out there.
                  IGN: AncientEvil
                  Server: EU-271+merged
                  Class: Archer
                  Getting less Evil and more Ancient every day.

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                  • #10
                    regarding the law suit against R2. ToS arent binding, in general you have highest grade of law which is some form of constitution (for european union its first the european rules, than the country's constitution) after which the normal laws will apply.

                    ToS is after that, but depending on country some content may not be added to Tos/ contracts. so the law could outrule these content.

                    but here are the main issues: who decides which rules apply? not really sure whether its the origin of the defended, but wasnt r2 chinese company? you think they will cooperate in any way?
                    than the second issue: we're at the current pace that most governments are lacking an actual safety for consumers of software content, so there are laws lacking for this kind of situations.

                    but regarding to your title: by clicking on post quick reply i admit ive read the ToS and agree with it (not:P)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tashona View Post
                      The next time you are thinking about posting "demands" for compensation for R2's emergency maintenances, please keep in mind the TOS states:

                      "Interruption of Our Services

                      Our Games are subject to scheduled and unscheduled service interruptions and loss of server data, which you do not own and for which you will not hold us liable. R2Games may on occasion need to interrupt the Services with or without prior notice. You agree that R2Games will not be liable for any interruption of the Services (whether intentional or not), and you understand that you will not be entitled to any refunds of fees or other compensation for interruption of our Services."


                      Also, if you are ever banned from the game and want to "threaten" filing a lawsuit, the TOS covers this as well:

                      "Denial of Access

                      R2Games, for any reason and at its sole discretion, may decide that any person shall be denied access to any part of our Services or Games. R2games may suspend, terminate, modify, or delete any R2Games account or Our Games account at any time for any reason with or without any notice to you.

                      You agree to cease and desist immediately from any attempt to access the site upon issuance of a denial. If you do not cease and desist, you hereby consent to an injunction to be entered against you by a court of competent jurisdiction, as provided herein, permanently enjoining you from attempting to access our Services."


                      And finally, when you want to complain about "lag" or "bugs" or pretty much anything that isn't working the way it should, and you want to post on the forum that you are going to "sue" them because they "cupcaked you out of your $$$", this is what the TOS says about that:

                      "Disclaimer

                      R2GAMES SERVICES ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. WHEN PERMITTED BY LAW, R2GAMES DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. R2GAMES DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE FUNCTIONS CONTAINED IN THE SERVICES WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE, THAT DEFECTS WILL BE CORRECTED, OR THAT THESE SERVICES OR THE SERVER THAT MAKES IT AVAILABLE ARE FREE OF VIRUSES OR OTHER HARMFUL COMPONENTS. R2GAMES DOES NOT WARRANT OR MAKE ANY REPRESENTATIONS REGARDING THE USE OR THE RESULTS OF THE USE OF THE MATERIALS IN THESE SERVICES IN TERMS OF THEIR CORRECTNESS, ACCURACY, RELIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE. "



                      So basically they can ban or not ban anyone they want to, at any time and for any reason. They also never have to give you ANY compensation for ANYTHING, and can never be held responsible for any problems with the game... AT ALL!

                      By playing their game, we all have AGREED to these "Terms Of Service". I guess we should all be a little more grateful when they do give us compensation packs for game problems, or that they do attempt to fix in-game bugs on occasion.

                      LMAO
                      http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....ting-yes-or-no
                      Confirmed that it maybe changed at anytime to suit R2 needs.

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                      • #12
                        of course we read agreement ...after I watched south park episode where kyle didn't read it and than they came and took him away for experimenting I always read agreement

                        they could state in agreement they can drag u away from home and make u slave if u don't read it and just fast click yes....so be carefull and read it

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nightfish View Post
                          of course we read agreement ...after I watched south park episode where kyle didn't read it and than they came and took him away for experimenting I always read agreement

                          they could state in agreement they can drag u away from home and make u slave if u don't read it and just fast click yes....so be carefull and read it
                          So you read ToS because you're scared of being part of a human centipede?
                          IGN: AncientEvil
                          Server: EU-271+merged
                          Class: Archer
                          Getting less Evil and more Ancient every day.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ancev View Post
                            So you read ToS because you're scared of being part of a human centipede?
                            there are far worse things

                            like maybe accidentally volunteering for the 2015 pain olympics (if you don't know what that is don't google it)
                            IGN/Server: Crusader Kabam 62
                            Class: Archer
                            Battle Rating: 275k (with herc br)

                            Guild: Black Lotus
                            Sylph: Hercules ★★ 46968
                            Originally posted by Wraithraiser
                            but yeah. Robo_Hobo for presidente

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ancev View Post
                              So you read ToS because you're scared of being part of a human centipede?
                              of course I read...

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