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    As some of you already noticed EU has made some changes to the VAT law for online/electronic services which will reflect on every EU player. Since i work in the same area i have a question regarding this, because depending on the answer this might be right or wrong.

    So the question, more to the gms or anyone who can dig this info, since i couldnt is:

    Which exactly is the provider of this version we are playing and where is it VAT registered?
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  • #2
    Could be that it is registered in China, not subject to the tax, but they are collecting it anyway and pocketing the difference. :rolleyes
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    • #3
      I have been reading up on the EU VAT laws. For e-services, which include virtual purchases, any company that offers a product to consumers who live in a country with a VAT, VAT must be collected from the consumer for every purchase and sent to the consumer's government.

      The EU is who makes the demand for VAT to be charged from non-EU businesses. Non-EU businesses don't get a choice, regardless of where they are located. They either collect VAT from EU consumers, or they stop allowing EU consumers to access the site, which would mean closing Euro time zone servers as well.

      So what happens for you guys now is, you get charged VAT on every purchase, at a rate set by your government. R2 sends your government the VAT you paid. Your government is happy, and you get to keep playing your game. Following the EU VAT law changes in 2015, you should find being changed VAT to be completely normal on every website you visit that allows consumers from the EU to make purchases.

      I found this site to be especially helpful in explaining things: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs...m/index_en.htm Hopefully it is equally as helpful to you too.
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      • #4
        wait so if i am europe, evan if i play on us west server, i still have to pay when buying vip?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MemoryLane View Post
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          If r2 had/has EU representative and EU VAT registration they already charge this, only thing that would change is the difference from VAT rates different countries have, i.e. players from Romania, Denmark, Croatia, Hungary, Finland etc. that have high rates will need to pay more compared to others for the same purchase.

          If r2 dont have such registration, every EU player will need to pay more (again some more, some less depending on where they live), no less than 20% increase in everything.

          But how will online payments (that determine if and how much more you need to pay)? IP? Watch me.
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          • #6
            You are still a EU consumer, so it doesn't matter what server you play, EU still demands you be taxed for purchases.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by MemoryLane View Post
              You are still a EU consumer, so it doesn't matter what server you play, EU still demands you be taxed for purchases.
              well seams that after my 70 days left of vip, no more vip for me

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              • #8
                lol. like im gonna pay 21% taxes.

                No way.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pietjeprecies View Post
                  lol. like im gonna pay 21% taxes.

                  No way.
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                  • #10
                    The VAT should already in the price if you buy VIP or balens. Think about that R2. Webshop got prices include VAt not exclude it.
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                    • #11
                      After I checked some of my old payment confirmation e-mails something interesting popped out. Our (or mine at least) payments dont go to r2 directly but to Skrill, which are EU registered business entity, no customer. Meaning r2 could only charge them with VAT, not the end customers - players. But as a registered company they owe no VAT on such services. And here things get more complicated and no point to discuss.

                      So I hope r2 knows what they are doing, i doubt it tho, cause now they are doing it wrong.
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                      • #12
                        So if you play through a VPN and show as USA based this won't apply? Jus curious how they will implement this, not jus in Wartune, but in general...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PunkPetal View Post
                          So if you play through a VPN and show as USA based this won't apply? Jus curious how they will implement this, not jus in Wartune, but in general...
                          Totally not tryin to avoid to pay more right? :P

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                          • #14
                            We already pay 3 times Tax for every euro we spend here in The Netherlands. The european goverment are also greedy cupcakes. You buy ingame credits and also pay for that. Why you should pay it again to a 3th party.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ANWB-praatpaal View Post
                              We already pay 3 times Tax for every euro we spend here in The Netherlands. The european goverment are also greedy cupcakes. You buy ingame credits and also pay for that. Why you should pay it again to a 3th party.
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