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  • #46
    Originally posted by Nightfish View Post
    just saying im paying more now than 15 years ago,it hurts ppl with very low income ,as for Russia or eu my country aint part of any of em nor did I said I like capitalism
    you dont understand what capitalism is, still. Your taxes are high because your government is socialist, not capitalist.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by R2sucksbad View Post
      you dont understand what capitalism is, still. Your taxes are high because your government is maffia, not capitalist.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by R2sucksbad View Post
        you dont understand what capitalism is, still. Your taxes are high because your government is socialist, not capitalist.
        don't know how u know my country government is mafia u don't even know which country it is also why do u think my country taxes are high, I was just referring there are to many taxes which didn't exist 15 years ago

        also those extra taxes had to implemented because west demanded u cant join EU if u don't do what they tell u and adjust everything according to their laws...

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Nightfish View Post
          don't know how u know my country government is mafia u don't even know which country it is also why do u think my country taxes are high, I was just referring there are to many taxes which didn't exist 15 years ago

          also those extra taxes had to implemented because west demanded u cant join EU if u don't do what they tell u and adjust everything according to their laws...
          sorry you're ignorant about things you talk about and i called you out.. also sorry, i'm not the one who said mafia.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by R2sucksbad View Post
            sorry you're ignorant about things you talk about and i called you out.. also sorry, i'm not the one who said mafia.
            not nice to call ppl ignorant just because they have different point of view than yours

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Nightfish View Post
              not nice to call ppl ignorant just because they have different point of view than yours
              it's not a difference of point of view at all. it's u using the wrong words for what you mean, and your lack of understanding for some words.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by R2sucksbad View Post
                it's not a difference of point of view at all. it's u using the wrong words for what you mean, and your lack of understanding for some words.
                copy/paste from wiki is one thing of understanding ,other is understanding from expiriance and many years of living in many forms of goverments,economy form shifts,rules and seeing how things really are

                im telling through my expiriance in my country how things are so its my point of view don't have to do anything with understanding of words
                Last edited by Nightfish; 01-29-2015, 08:23 PM.

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                • #53
                  With this VAT they hurt the people who are buying stuff, not the companies.
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                  • #54
                    That's the last straw for me no more recharges ill just play until I get bored then no more Wartunes

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by WolfBoyLogan View Post
                      That's the last straw for me no more recharges ill just play until I get bored then no more Wartunes
                      Don't lose hope. As every new change companies still dont know what and how to do it. And most fun part is there is almost no way for tax authorities to enforce this for now.
                      THERE IS NO JUSTICE, THERE'S JUST ME.

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                      • #56
                        To expensive in the shop, is like 100-200% more expensive for a crypt key that china, to hige price for balens.

                        + vat one gamling and games some dont have VAT in Sweden is the only products some dont have any vat.

                        this just make me start play Diablo Again R2Games can forget get a $0.000001 more of me am finnish.

                        This just gonna destory R2Games. Can shut down the game now.


                        This game still have so mutch flash bugs and lags is not even worth the vat or any more mony.
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                        • #57
                          this is quite funny, the reason being that no-one actually owns anything in the game, r2 owns everything, so how can u pay vat on wat u don't own, i can see maybe for download games where u actually own your char and everything in your inventory, but here doesn't matter wat u buy coz legally u own nothing. SO WHY THE HELL SHOULD U BE MADE TO PAY VAT?????

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                          • #58
                            actually, capitalism is not "rather than the state" in fact it is more often "in conjunction with" the extent to which differs from each and the regulation of such activity is handled by guess who? These circumstances often have much to do with governments demanding more of their people, taxes always have been, at times with good reason but also often a source of abuse of power. These decisions were made by representatives of national governments from the EU, not a private consortium of companies. VAT is set and collected by governmental treasuries, not by private entities. Therefore this case is very much to do with states filling the coffers from the hard work and resultant resources of its peoples. R2 did not suddenly decide it wanted to ostracise it's European customers by charging them extra........ or did they????

                            I have yet to notice any vat registration, collecting monies without such would be unlawful under the same legal bracket under which they proport to charge EU citizens extra. Secondly, the EU bodies agreeing and having set this up have yet to clarify so many grey points, having themselves admitted to simply not knowing what/why/when/where/who or how on a great many issues. If they are not clear themselves, it makes it very difficult to enforce to/on others. More importantly, they cannot as yet verify or clarify what.... if anything..... people such as R2 are selling, as a consumer we "own" nothing... Hard to make a case for charging vat on nothing.
                            We are more like someone who rents a movie, R2 is the owner of such and we pay to have use of what they own. There are vat rules in these instances also, but they are very different than charging vat on an item of which you have ownership.
                            Maybe R2's legal team is as lacking in competency as it's developers,.... or maybe the heads of that snake just saw a way to make more easy money in an "appearing" legitimate fashion. some are bothering to look into it and endeavour to keep people aware so they might make informed decisions .

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by jbyram2 View Post
                              Could be that it is registered in China, not subject to the tax, but they are collecting it anyway and pocketing the difference. :rolleyes
                              The servers are located in Hong Kong

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