What EU countrys is exempt from VAT frome gamling and games?

[dwmedia]

I know Sweden is exempt frome vat when its comes to gamling and games, is no real online gods.

Like Music Mobiles apps, online books, Movies stuff like that have VAT in sweden, but not gamling and games.

Hire was some more countrys in the EU some also have exempt frome vat think was UK, is it any else EU country some is exempty?

[P-J-J]

as r2 tos says we don't own the char or anything in the game why are we paying vat on goods that we don't actually own??? this is complete utter ********

Unfortunately, this is not right according to law. They have to check respective laws in countries they pay the VAT. In my country I own the character (asset), and R2Games is my service provider.

So if they stop supporting the game, they should give me the chance to transfer asset to the new provider, which will be funny on first moment, but easier to achieve for 7road.

Hope that Chinese lawyers (R2Games is Chinese company with U.S. licence) at least studied the laws of individual countries and explain this to the person who thought we are owning zero.

BTW, there are also laws for gambling restriction, so gambling for unbound balens which are directly achievable only from real money (ie there is no other way to get them, including free balens)? This is gamble and they have to fulfil all legal requirements in he system for lottery committee to check.

[johnmartin201581]

Yes!!! I also read one article on this topic but I don't think VAT is exempt in all the countries.
When we are making huge amount of money through casino then paying VAT is not such a big deal I guess.

Anyway, lets enjoy gaming and have fun!!!
CHEERS.............

[AdaJames]

I have always found the name VAT to be highly amusing. How does a tax add value to anything?

[Mudokon]

All Eu players are officialy paying VAT twice, your paying the vat added which everyone is paying plus the rate for your eu country, R2 are scamming you and you dont even realise it.

[johnmartin201581]

Thanks Kanusti for mentioning the list of countries including their VAT percentage. I believe the VAT rate is quite expensive to afford for newbies.

[kanusti]

Member State - VAT Rate
Austria - 20%
Belgium - 21%
Bulgaria - 20%
Croatia - 25%
Cyprus - 19%
Czech Republic - 21%
Denmark - 25%
Estonia - 20%
Finland - 24%
France - 20%
Germany - 19%
Greece - 23%
Hungary - 27%
Ireland - 23%
Italy - 22%
Latvia - 21%
Lithuania - 21%
Luxembourg - 17%
Malta - 18%
Netherlands - 21%
Poland - 23%
Portugal - 23%
Romania - 24%
Slovakia - 20%
Slovenia - 22%
Spain - 21%
Sweden - 25%
United Kingdom (UK) - 20%

taken from here http://forum.r2games.com/showthread....T-Announcement

[JanneNico]

I live in Sweden.
And when buy some balens I also pay +25% VAT. /
Suddenly it got very expensive to play this laggy game...

[johnmartin201581]

Hi All,
Its a latest news. Can anyone share the list of those 28 countries here please?
Thanks in advance!!

[ancev]

This dosent count as digital service or digital goods, its counts as game, and gamling and we dont have VAT one games in sweden.

Digital gods, is Mobile apps, Books, Music, Movies, and stuff like that.

Digital goods include virtual goods (ingame currency and items).

[R21233409]

as r2 tos says we don't own the char or anything in the game why are we paying vat on goods that we don't actually own??? this is complete utter ********

[dwmedia]

is not irrelvant if man take out more VAT that is requirment for the gods service if you say is vat one the ****.

if them gonna pay to Swedish gorvament VAT swedish people pay, them take 25% and pay in 6 or 12% that is just robe the people.


say to a exempel am go buy a book in a store a products some have 6% VAT in sweden and the store take out 25% am gonna ******* call the police.


Then I would contact the Consumer Authority and try get the store black listed.

[daunapu]

and sweden have 3 diffrens type of VAT 6% 12% and 25% depends what type of itmes is it.


https://www.skatteverket.se/foretago...480005156.html


25, 12, or 6 percent sales tax?

The standard rate of VAT is 25 percent. For certain specified goods and services tax rate is 12 or 6 percent. What rate you use depends on what goods or services you sell. It does not matter what VAT you paid when you bought a product or a service.

You calculate VAT on taxable income. On sale is taxable entire amount paid by the customer for the product or service, without VAT, excluding any interest.

Most countries have different rates depending on the nature of goods, this is irrelevant.

This article someone else posted in my thread is well written and easy to understand by normal people without knowledge in this area

http://www.gamerlaw.co.uk/2014/a-pra...content-sales/

Also many already tried and a simple IP change works on evading this VAT. R2 as a company needs to keep data of the payments including bank details etc. Those can be used as a proof of residence, BUT since VAT goes to your country tax office, r2 as a company has little to no interest in digging into this so i guess FOR NOW they only track your IP. Still i think its best to NOT give them such data - make new paypal account or use prepaid cards or some other way that can not be tracked back to you and where you come from.

This is a new thing, most companies have no idea how to handle it, so i guess for a year at least many compromises will be made. I dont think any tax office will start persecuting customers for avoiding 50-100-200 euro per year no matter what, especially on the Internet

[dwmedia]

and sweden have 3 diffrens type of VAT 6% 12% and 25% depends what type of itmes is it.


https://www.skatteverket.se/foretago...480005156.html


25, 12, or 6 percent sales tax?

The standard rate of VAT is 25 percent. For certain specified goods and services tax rate is 12 or 6 percent. What rate you use depends on what goods or services you sell. It does not matter what VAT you paid when you bought a product or a service.

You calculate VAT on taxable income. On sale is taxable entire amount paid by the customer for the product or service, without VAT, excluding any interest.

[daunapu]

Online games like this are electronic services. Games, no matter how it sounds, in the law are casino games, betting etc. where you can make profit.