Bg is **

[xPlutox]

I go into BG expecting max level 70s because thats my level bracket and what i go into and see are these level 80s who stun you for 3 rounds and kill you absolutely B.S

[drwho2014]

enter BG with 10 mins left...sit there...

put an end to BGs by not playing in them

[xrycek]

It means that the animosity ppl on these forums feel towards 'campers' is so strong that even in cases of clear bugs, theyll ignore the issue and attack them relentlessly. Look at the other BG thread for plenty of examples. PVP in this game is all about the strong preying, feeding upon the weak, full stop. But apparently, any method of dominating pvp other than heading straight to 80 and cashing, is completely invalid and makes you deserving of hatred (and yet, look at the equally nasty response people get when they complain about how imbalanced pvp is. Apparently, camping is bad bad bad, but if you're being killed by campers, shut up and take it you big baby). Thank god I'm IMDE and don't have to deal with any of this garbage anymore.

I dunno. As someone who has played tons of games in the past with vibrant pvp at multiple lvl ranges, I geniunely don't understand why ppl consider camping so awful. Even if long term your char strength would be better by heading to 80 faster, for a lot of ppl they look at the explosion of brs at the high end and conclude, not irrationally imho, that "pvp fun" and "lvling to 80" are mutually exclusive, and that their best chance of having fun (not to mention grabbing better pvp titles/medals) is to stay where they are for a while. Even if it's from the standpoint of "campers ruin lowbies' fun", how is the experience of getting crushed by a camper -- who, while 100k stronger than you, could theoretically catch if you slowed down and got stronger -- demonstably different from the experiece of reaching 80, stepping into sft, and getting annihilated by multiple 5/6/7/800ks, who you will likely NEVER catch? I'm sorry but like I said before, that's Wartune PVP. Anyone on the low end -- br or lvl-wise -- is not going to get much out of it unless they cash moderately hard or VIP long enough to at least not lose anything while they're beign farmed. Or...camp.

[xPlutox]

and that is supposed to mean...??

[FufuBunnySlayer]

You are still lvl 69, but with max hs, so i guess you are a camper. A camper that used to bully others in bgs. A camper that now feels bullied. Am i wrong?

i just turned level 69 a couple of months ago, if anything i get bullied by others in BG. so do withdraw your invalid comment

QED

filler

[xrycek]

Huge BR boost, sure, but...in terms of PVP fun, camping for a while isn't such a bad idea. I don't care if some would call it "bullying" (the same ppl who mock others who complain about bg unfairness but w/e), or if you'd end up with more raw br long term, in the short term, being able to actually kill people on a regular basis is fun. Working your way from the bottom of the totem pole to if not the top then at least somewhere in the middle, is FUN. Logging into a SFT and seeing that youre the lowest br on either team by at least 100-150k, and being stomped out by everyone who walks by, not so much.

PVP in this game is about as unbalanced as it can be at the high end, it's all about being the "bully" and avoid being the one being picked on, even fights being so rare. Heading to 80 is better overall, but as I sit here staring at the crowd of my 500k teammates parked in front of the enemy spawn (reminding them to actually capture some totems grumble grumble), I don't think it unreasonable to want to be on the giving end of that, rather than the receiving end, for as long as possible.

Which is exactly why all those 80s are terrorizing regulr bg, they know what's waiting for them when they hit SFT. So....I guess I'm suggesting that you forget camping, rush to 80, avoid completing the SFT quest, and pick on all the poor lowbies? I dunno.

[Whispir]

First and foremost i haven't maxed out soul engraving because of the limit of sc's that i get in a day so thats why i don't plan on leveling and second of all why should i level to 80 straight away? Logic? I'd rather gain br along the levels than leveling straight away. so many people have quit after they've found out that they can't survive whilst being a weak level 80 so...

You limit yourself by doing that. And I didn't say you have to go straight to 80. You can improve your BR in the 70s but hitting level 80 and doing dragon invasion would give a huge BR boost and an increase to your gold income.

If you level and keep access to old BG, you'll only be weak in the oh so special group arena. If people choose not to do DI with you, you can still work on other things. Running anything else should be easy to do.

Also, think about your excuse... "I won't level because I don't have 80 soul engraving."

[xPlutox]

First and foremost i haven't maxed out soul engraving because of the limit of sc's that i get in a day so thats why i don't plan on leveling and second of all why should i level to 80 straight away? Logic? I'd rather gain br along the levels than leveling straight away. so many people have quit after they've found out that they can't survive whilst being a weak level 80 so...

[Whispir]

i just turned level 69 a couple of months ago

Unless you really care about group arena, I suggest leveling. You can stay in the same BG and use everything in the game to improve your BR, or you can choose to go to SFT if you'd be too ashamed to do that.

I don't want to offend you but I see a lot of 250-300k+ BR campers, some with VIP 9, that sit in that BG and complain about lvl 80s ruining their kill streaks when they're doing the exact same thing, farming lower BR's for their 6k honor quota of the day. The only difference is that the lvl 80s are not limiting their gameplay to BG and GA. If you level up, you can increase your BR by a ton over a short time and participate in more events that you might have ignored before because of their experience given. You'll gain more supplies and possibly more clothing/mounts from the extra chests.

I have not heard one decent excuse from people on why they continue to camp. They've told me that they'll go to Sacred Fire Temple but it takes months for them to level up once and they're still farming people while ranked an Earl.

And @ the stun. I haven't seen stun much lately.

Edit: I'm not saying more people should camp in normal Battleground instead of going to Temple but there's no reason to limit your character by so much.

[Arlad]

I don't like thing? do go back to school

o k

[xPlutox]

I don't like thing? do go back to school

[Arlad]

so i heard you dont like BG.

[princestewii]

FYI regular bg been bugged since fire temple came out. The 80s you see are the ones who wont go to their fire temple by completing the quest so they are placed in the lvl 60 bg along with the 70s who also refuse to go to their fire temple. That's the new set up now since its been that way for months so you gotta deal with it.

[xPlutox]

and plus do learn to read previous posts

[xPlutox]

i just turned level 69 a couple of months ago, if anything i get bullied by others in BG. so do withdraw your invalid comment