Lair price

[Devil_Lover_Duy]

I know some of u did'nt think about it but i have a suggestion that the price of lair should be changed..After defeating those wave what we get the army that nobody use

[Skillgannon]

thats exactly my point

being casher or noncasher doesnt matter.
what trully matters is that u know how to build with the class you chose.

as i said before,saw many noncashers kill high cashers,so that kinda proves it.

[Skillgannon]

really placing some ones post as quote of another...LMAO super gota find the way of how that bug works so i can mess around with some peeps

[Hyorinmaru6]

on the players way of building i agree...lvl 50 comes to fast
best is reach to a certain lvl to open whats needed,then try lvl up as slow as possible while building up in everything else....its quite shamefull for example u be 45/50 and unable to do badlands because your char only has high lvl,or even worse,having a lower lvl player kick their butt in any pvp event.

found many in BG,much higher then me in lvl,soft as butter and with damage values very patetic,and all they had to suport themselves on their rantings was beeing in a high rank because of their high lvl(on rank lvl i mean) as if rank lvl(or any of the ranks in matter of fact) would give anything usefull to the player except the useless ego boost that some use as food.
or those huge vip that suport all their expertise in how much they can spend,then have their butt kicked by some one that spent 20 bucks only and rant in forums that this and that are to OP.

its not the class that is OP,its the player waay of building its char,and no matter how high lvl they are or how much money they spent,they will always be defeated by some one with a better build and spending less(talking of the case of vips of course,altougth i know of many non cashers that eat alive many suposed top VIP players )

this has nothing to do with cash or non cash players actually

and yea

when i was level 45 below i saw level 47s on void so it kinda taught me that leveling way to fast just makes u a clown

slow down and build ur self make a better u


also isn't forum cool it makes a mess and soooo awesome

[Skillgannon]

that was my post...i have no idea why it posted as if i had quoted you...this is really weird

[Skillgannon]

on the players way of building i agree...lvl 50 comes to fast
best is reach to a certain lvl to open whats needed,then try lvl up as slow as possible while building up in everything else....its quite shamefull for example u be 45/50 and unable to do badlands because your char only has high lvl,or even worse,having a lower lvl player kick their butt in any pvp event.

found many in BG,much higher then me in lvl,soft as butter and with damage values very patetic,and all they had to suport themselves on their rantings was beeing in a high rank because of their high lvl(on rank lvl i mean) as if rank lvl(or any of the ranks in matter of fact) would give anything usefull to the player except the useless ego boost that some use as food.
or those huge vip that suport all their expertise in how much they can spend,then have their butt kicked by some one that spent 20 bucks only and rant in forums that this and that are to OP.

its not the class that is OP,its the player waay of building its char,and no matter how high lvl they are or how much money they spent,they will always be defeated by some one with a better build and spending less(talking of the case of vips of course,altougth i know of many non cashers that eat alive many suposed top VIP players )

[Skillgannon]

O.o ok this forum is freaking me out,i didnt post that

[Skillgannon]

well it is weird which happens to me too well i wasn't asking ur level or ur rank or anything so i don't know why u explained urself to me but its good info
ur a knight with power and high BR who can take on top ranks
thats nice

but my point was that if we level too fast we will lose out on power

on the players way of building i agree...lvl 50 comes to fast
best is reach to a certain lvl to open whats needed,then try lvl up as slow as possible while building up in everything else....its quite shamefull for example u be 45/50 and unable to do badlands because your char only has high lvl,or even worse,having a lower lvl player kick their butt in any pvp event.

found many in BG,much higher then me in lvl,soft as butter and with damage values very patetic,and all they had to suport themselves on their rantings was beeing in a high rank because of their high lvl(on rank lvl i mean) as if rank lvl(or any of the ranks in matter of fact) would give anything usefull to the player except the useless ego boost that some use as food.
or those huge vip that suport all their expertise in how much they can spend,then have their butt kicked by some one that spent 20 bucks only and rant in forums that this and that are to OP.

its not the class that is OP,its the player waay of building its char,and no matter how high lvl they are or how much money they spent,they will always be defeated by some one with a better build and spending less(talking of the case of vips of course,altougth i know of many non cashers that eat alive many suposed top VIP players )

in my server level 50s become snack
so its kinda weird when i see players leveling up just for the skills,astral slot,troops
and forget about build their guild skills astrals tech and so on

also the lairs don't offer u a huge amount of EXP i think we can get more from a EXP book
so doing the campaign is just a waste of time while i can get twice as much if i learnt to build myself so i can do better things like crypts which offers a huge amount of EXP every day on each level

in my server level 50s become snack
so its kinda weird when i see players leveling up just for the skills,astral slot,troops
and forget about build their guild skills astrals tech and so on

also the lairs don't offer u a huge amount of EXP i think we can get more from a EXP book
so doing the campaign is just a waste of time while i can get twice as much if i learnt to build myself so i can do better things like crypts which offers a huge amount of EXP every day on each level[/QUOTE]

[Hyorinmaru6]

and i have no idea why it posted 2 of the same in a row...this is weird

well it is weird which happens to me too well i wasn't asking ur level or ur rank or anything so i don't know why u explained urself to me but its good info
ur a knight with power and high BR who can take on top ranks
thats nice

but my point was that if we level too fast we will lose out on power

in my server level 50s become snack
so its kinda weird when i see players leveling up just for the skills,astral slot,troops
and forget about build their guild skills astrals tech and so on

also the lairs don't offer u a huge amount of EXP i think we can get more from a EXP book
so doing the campaign is just a waste of time while i can get twice as much if i learnt to build myself so i can do better things like crypts which offers a huge amount of EXP every day on each level

[Skillgannon]

ho ye and i even posted long ago a knight guide on forum that happened to be followed by many,and even now i get forum PMs asking me tips for it,so think on the build subject i dont have much of a problem

[Skillgannon]

and i have no idea why it posted 2 of the same in a row...this is weird

[Skillgannon]

s3 oldie m8,not lvl 36 anymore and not been one for several months.

and i can assure u i possess a pretty strong knigth that hav for his breakfast many "top rank" archers and mages"

i know how to build him and that won me several non friendly remarks in wc by thse mentioned above

[Skillgannon]

s3 oldie m8,not lvl 36 anymore and not been one for several months.

and i can assure u i possess a pretty strong knigth that hav for his breakfast many "top rank" archers and mages"

i know how to build him and that won me several non friendly remarks in wc by thse mentioned above

[Hyorinmaru6]

been reading most of your posts in the forum and i quite like them,show tought and consideration in each subject.

but...

sry to say this,on the lairs subject i disagree.

im refering of course to xp,if your one that goes after it.

not doing a lair,be in any MP dungeon or solo dungeon belive it or not is damaging your growth more then you can imagine.
i can imagine that you dont do them so you can save 10/20m of your xp scrool,but in fact by doing this you are actualy losing much more xp then what those 10/20m will ever give you.

i say this and was a fact already tested,if you dont do a lair on a MP or solo,your final bonus xp will be less then if you had done the lair.

i tried this long ago and spent a week testing it and at the end this is what was shown to me.

at the time i was lvl 36 on S3 and the MP and solo used for this was BloodLands for MP and Shrine of sakaiya for solo.

if i avoided doing lair in MP,i would end up with around 200k+ xp at final bonus of completion of the dungeon (using a 50% xp scrool)
if i didnt avoid the lair at the end i would have 240k+ xp on the final completion(using the same 50% xp scrool)

those numbers refer only to the completion xp bonus,excluding the xp that mobs give in the lair

now that was only 1 run...now count how much xp would i lose avoiding all 5 runs(because was 5 runs and not 3 after the patch)
i tried even to save as much time i could of the xp scrool and in the end i still found myself losing larges amounts of xp.

on shrine of shakaiya was the same(smaler amount of course)
with lair i always had a final bonus much higher then without doing it.

so and since then i do al lairs i find(idc about the reward of the lair completion cuz it kinda sucks)and i only have pity its only 1 lair...should be much more then just 1

i do the lairs but only in MPD
the campaign are not worth fighting the whole 3 wave sentinals
MPD offers good EXP so i usually do it and i know it affects growth but point is that if u can balance it out then u can control ur growth its kinda little theoretical but if u can come up to my EXP gain way u can become a high level player in weeks but however u will lack the power and BR that a high level player should have cause u will be focused on leveling only thats a lesson i learned the hard way
farming and building urself is the best
next comes leveling

[Skillgannon]

u actually do those?
i only do them if they are in MPD and the cards stop after level 35 bloodlands
level 40 onwards u get better reward and in badlands u get some daru

been reading most of your posts in the forum and i quite like them,show tought and consideration in each subject.

but...

sry to say this,on the lairs subject i disagree.

im refering of course to xp,if your one that goes after it.

not doing a lair,be in any MP dungeon or solo dungeon belive it or not is damaging your growth more then you can imagine.
i can imagine that you dont do them so you can save 10/20m of your xp scrool,but in fact by doing this you are actualy losing much more xp then what those 10/20m will ever give you.

i say this and was a fact already tested,if you dont do a lair on a MP or solo,your final bonus xp will be less then if you had done the lair.

i tried this long ago and spent a week testing it and at the end this is what was shown to me.

at the time i was lvl 36 on S3 and the MP and solo used for this was BloodLands for MP and Shrine of sakaiya for solo.

if i avoided doing lair in MP,i would end up with around 200k+ xp at final bonus of completion of the dungeon (using a 50% xp scrool)
if i didnt avoid the lair at the end i would have 240k+ xp on the final completion(using the same 50% xp scrool)

those numbers refer only to the completion xp bonus,excluding the xp that mobs give in the lair

now that was only 1 run...now count how much xp would i lose avoiding all 5 runs(because was 5 runs and not 3 after the patch)
i tried even to save as much time i could of the xp scrool and in the end i still found myself losing larges amounts of xp.

on shrine of shakaiya was the same(smaler amount of course)
with lair i always had a final bonus much higher then without doing it.

so and since then i do al lairs i find(idc about the reward of the lair completion cuz it kinda sucks)and i only have pity its only 1 lair...should be much more then just 1