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The true of resistant system - You can make ODIN to trash sylph

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  • The true of resistant system - You can make ODIN to trash sylph

    Noob Whales again here,

    You can make your opponent to a trash character and sylph(even I'm close to 4 mil BR). But temporary works.
    I got formula about resistant system related with DIM
    - Clear one Adv DIM - you got 8% up total of will crystal value and 15% up of res crystal value (have to match DIM and res)
    - Clear one Expert DIM - you got 24% up total of will crystal value and 60% up of res crystal value (have to match DIM and res)

    Now, res-crystal event..... easy to get higher res-crystals
    I give you data and example
    lvl9 res-crystal has 150+ value
    lvl10 res-crystal has 200+ value
    Addtionally, if you have 800 resistance higher, income damage will be reduced 90%....... God system


    * How can make Odin sylph to trash..... easy easy easy
    If you have 1-expert and 2-adv light DIM, you have 60+15+15=90% up effect of light resistance
    When you have 6 lvl9 light-res-crystal, you have 150X6X(1+0.9) = 1710 light-res,
    if have light sylph, will be 1810. (+100 advantage)
    if have dark sylph, 1510. (-200 disadvantage)
    if have other sylphs, 1610 (-100 disadvantage)

    if use lvl10 res-crystal......OMG.... immortal


    So, when you have 1-expert and 2 light adv light-DIM, 1-expert and 1 adv dark-DIM with 6lvl9 light and 6 lvl9 dark crystals
    Your opponent Odin sylph is totally trashed (normally you have 1710 light-res and 1575 dark-res)

    Someone blame about res-RED, simple..... If you have 5-expert DIM (any element), 0.24X5=1.2
    So, when you have 3 lvl8 res-RED, just can get 840X(1+1.2), 1848 finally, it works....
    hahaha, but not easy to get 5-expert same time, and if have 3lvl8 res-red, he is whales and has more lvl10 res-crystals



    Is it make sense?
    How much need to invest to make odin sylph........but trashed simply (temporary, but, can use CW, Titan, Eternal....)

    I heard new patch soon, but idk how changed
    After patch, I'll try to get the info of resistant system.
    If same as now, not worth to spend. So just stop to spend and enjoy a relationship with ppl

    Enjoy resistant system, You will be a great warrior, but remember it works temporary


    Blame to my ugly explaination
    Last edited by hawk1world; 09-02-2015, 05:13 PM.

  • SlowPlay
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    Originally posted by JkLoser87 View Post
    I am just saying it isn't strategy, if you wanna stand there and believe a guessing game is strat, be my guest
    Guess what your opponent will do and be ready to react isn't strategy? Ok then.

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  • JkLoser87
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    Originally posted by SlowPlay View Post
    That's the odd chance, you can find 1 person with stacked wind in bg, not 15, that's not what i call a roulette, it's just the odd chance as i said statistically not relevant.



    CW/titans/chaos war is big part of the pvp game dude, and on all those event resistance is the only strategy part we have left. Let's remove that too and make the game strictly cash to win i guess, everyone will be happy.
    I am just saying it isn't strategy, if you wanna stand there and believe a guessing game is strat, be my guest

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  • Draggyy
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    Originally posted by cyc2u View Post
    Where do you get adv and expert dimensions? I've opened over 60 of them chests you get from guild shop and there are all basic except like 2 were intermediate. The new system stinks.
    In my first 1k chests I got 3 experts, 11-12 adv

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  • cyc2u
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    Where do you get adv and expert dimensions? I've opened over 60 of them chests you get from guild shop and there are all basic except like 2 were intermediate. The new system stinks.

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  • SlowPlay
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    Originally posted by FufuBunnySlayer View Post
    I run on what dims I have. I stack dark for CW, and use my other ones in the "off" times. I imagine most do the same. Even if you're being "clever" and using a wind slyph, if your opponent has wind res stacked and is within 500k BR, you'll probs lose...hence roulette. The only thing that matters about you and your opponent is what res and slyph are being used. The other 7+ stats should have an effect on the fight, too.
    That's the odd chance, you can find 1 person with stacked wind in bg, not 15, that's not what i call a roulette, it's just the odd chance as i said statistically not relevant.

    Originally posted by JkLoser87 View Post
    Still finds it funny that people insist to say resistence is strategy. Chosing 3 numbers and hoping your opponent didn't choose one of those 3, isn't what I call strategy, unless you are close to that person, and knows how he think, and know that you are going to face him. Maybe in cw finals, you can call it strategy, but everywhere else it's just a guessing game
    CW/titans/chaos war is big part of the pvp game dude, and on all those event resistance is the only strategy part we have left. Let's remove that too and make the game strictly cash to win i guess, everyone will be happy.

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  • JkLoser87
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    Still finds it funny that people insist to say resistence is strategy. Chosing 3 numbers and hoping your opponent didn't choose one of those 3, isn't what I call strategy, unless you are close to that person, and knows how he think, and know that you are going to face him. Maybe in cw finals, you can call it strategy, but everywhere else it's just a guessing game

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  • Spawnas
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    I guess no one even noticed that odin actually ignore all resist and do full dmg, go to tok where is someone with odin and try changing resists, having both light and dark makes no difference. Everyone doing ~2k dmg, but odin hitting 200k+..

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  • FufuBunnySlayer
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    Originally posted by SlowPlay View Post
    What you said doesn't make much sense to me tbh unless you're using hecate in pvp (and then again, just stop using it, stacked dark is far too common). If you're not using hecate i don't understand how it is a roulette? Because you may find a player with an uncommon stacked res? It's a slim chance statistically irrelevant tbh, i found 3 player so far with stacked light and i do 2 bg/day, and i'm talkin about light res which should be the 2nd most common res togheter with electro.
    I run on what dims I have. I stack dark for CW, and use my other ones in the "off" times. I imagine most do the same. Even if you're being "clever" and using a wind slyph, if your opponent has wind res stacked and is within 500k BR, you'll probs lose...hence roulette. The only thing that matters about you and your opponent is what res and slyph are being used. The other 7+ stats should have an effect on the fight, too.

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  • SlowPlay
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    Originally posted by MrFancyPants View Post
    Nothing wrong with strategy, but if the majority of fights are determined before they begin, it's not all that interesting to play it out. And the ones that aren't pre-decided will also tend to be boring, because half the time neither player will be hurting the other. It's the fights where no one could even lose if they tried that I really hate. The time limit on CW matches does help a lot there though.
    I don't feel like fights are pre determined tbh. About the odd chance of getting a long fight i agree there should be a time limit on bg/arena.

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  • MrFancyPants
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    Originally posted by SlowPlay View Post
    What's bad in strategy?
    Nothing wrong with strategy, but if the majority of fights are determined before they begin, it's not all that interesting to play it out. And the ones that aren't pre-decided will also tend to be boring, because half the time neither player will be hurting the other. It's the fights where no one could even lose if they tried that I really hate. The time limit on CW matches does help a lot there though.

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  • MsKink
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    i always play Rock, this way i always win when some noobs play Scissors

    and paper, well, no one plays paper anyway,.... wait whaaaat. oh hell, enjoy the paper lol

    edit. Next patch, we get pvp-action TicTacToe !!!

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  • SlowPlay
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    Originally posted by MrFancyPants View Post
    I don't think it affects CW any less, it's even more focused for that. Successful TW teams will have 4 different types of sylphs, giving them the ability to finish any team in reasonable time. But in CW, you have to play a thoughtful guessing game what res and what sylph to equip. Virtually no top players will bring light or dark as primary, since it's going to be highly defended against, but if you forego that res entirely, you risk losing to weaker players who bring their strongest sylph. Or taking too much damage from the backup sylphs.
    It makes figuring out the iocane powder question look easy.
    What's bad in strategy?

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  • MrFancyPants
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    Originally posted by FufuBunnySlayer View Post
    My main issue is that it turns pvp into roulette. What res did you prep with dims determines who the winner is. If you pick right, you win. If you don't, you lose. Almost nothing else matters. Mind, it's not a huge deal for me since I ignore arena and usually BG, too--it's just so silly that I feel the need to comment, heh. Usually it affects CW and TW less because everyone preps dims and such for those events specifically.
    I don't think it affects CW any less, it's even more focused for that. Successful TW teams will have 4 different types of sylphs, giving them the ability to finish any team in reasonable time. But in CW, you have to play a thoughtful guessing game what res and what sylph to equip. Virtually no top players will bring light or dark as primary, since it's going to be highly defended against, but if you forego that res entirely, you risk losing to weaker players who bring their strongest sylph. Or taking too much damage from the backup sylphs.
    It makes figuring out the iocane powder question look easy.

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  • SlowPlay
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    Originally posted by FufuBunnySlayer View Post
    My main issue is that it turns pvp into roulette. What res did you prep with dims determines who the winner is. If you pick right, you win. If you don't, you lose. Almost nothing else matters. Mind, it's not a huge deal for me since I ignore arena and usually BG, too--it's just so silly that I feel the need to comment, heh. Usually it affects CW and TW less because everyone preps dims and such for those events specifically.
    What you said doesn't make much sense to me tbh unless you're using hecate in pvp (and then again, just stop using it, stacked dark is far too common). If you're not using hecate i don't understand how it is a roulette? Because you may find a player with an uncommon stacked res? It's a slim chance statistically irrelevant tbh, i found 3 player so far with stacked light and i do 2 bg/day, and i'm talkin about light res which should be the 2nd most common res togheter with electro.

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