Eudemons - Material summary

[P-J-J]

Group	Item	How many need per level		pre-5.0 source	post-5.0 source	cross-server event source	Shop		Inventory space	Note
Upgrade
	Blood of Zeus	50, ..., 2500, 6500		farm (sika deer)	farm (sika deer), eudemon arena				1
Enhance
- Enchant
	White Iron	5		dimension	advanced guild shop, bounty targets (cca 1-56)				1	for white
	Turquoise	10		dimension	bounty targets (cca 21-66)	CW, TW			1	for green
	Blue Crystaloid	15		dimension	bounty targets (cca 41-76)	CW, CSGB			1	for blue
	Red Copper	20		dimension	bounty targets (cca 61-96)	CW			1	for purple
	Golden Sand	25							1	for yellow
- Legendary Equipment
	Green Flames	20					20 ub			white to green
	Blue Flames	20					20 ub			green to blue
	Violet Flame	20					20 ub			blue o violet
	Hellish Flame	20					20 ub			violet to yellow
- Refine
	Rough Stone	1								for white
	Smooth Stone	1								for green
	Darksteel Rock	4								for blue
	Well Refined Stone	18								for purple
	Dragon Blood Stone	18								for yellow
- Socket
	Diamonds	upto 7:4, 8-10:3, 11-12:2			Bounty Targets (drop in multiples, eg. 15 HP3 at 90)					higher gear can socket more
Skills
	Class	10, 40, 160, 640 ... per skill			Eudemon Arena		50 bb except: - Scourge's 30 bb - Ranger's 50 ub only		5 classes x10 skills	10 per class
	Generic	same			Eudemon Arena				4
	Book of Wisdom	1000-3000 per skill per level 6-8 and per eudemon					30 ub per 1		1
Warpath
	Warpath crystal	30, ..., 4000		ToK	ToK, Eudemon Arena				1
	Eudemon RES reduction Essence			ToK	Tok, Eudemon Arena				1
	Eudemon resistance essence			ToK	ToK, Eudemon Arena				1
Acquisition
	Eudemon Shards	5		dimension, sacrify	Bounty Targets up to 56				1

So in summary:

- skills grow exponentially and drops 2 per win, 1 per loss in eudemon arena is not enough
- flames for gear upgrades only for balens (or some chest exchanges)
- stones for gear enchant limited how far we went in bounty targets, for additional eudemons need wait on cross-server events, or wait with all the classes on low levels to enchant all gears on all eudemons
- book of wisdom, despite is far future, needs 3*14*6*6000 (assume 6 eudemons on skill lvl 8), for 30 cash balens
- eudemon shards on low levels of Bounty targets, so wait till you get all eudemons you need

Recommendations:
- reconsider Bounty Target drops strategy, it is designed for single eudemon
- increase drops for skills as exponential curve is too big (10, 4*10, 4²*10, 4³*10 ...), so book of wisdom is far from being bought, even the amount is too big
- flames need drops
- think about inventory space

[Meikura001]

Honestly, I do not want to spend unbound balens (could not get any, anyways) just to upgrade my eudaemon's equipment to the next zone. Whoever made it so we have to put money to get them ought to be taken out back and smacked across the head. I got 2.1k bound balens and I'll be damned if I cannot spend them to get a few flames needed as they aren't really found anywhere else.

But yes, something needs to be done so everyone can enjoy the game more (well, after they fixed the performance bugs of course).

[RaitoZ]

Group	Item	How many need per level		pre-5.0 source	post-5.0 source	cross-server event source	Shop		Inventory space	Note
Upgrade
	Blood of Zeus	50, ..., 2500, 6500		farm (sika deer)	farm (sika deer), eudemon arena				1
Enhance
- Enchant
	White Iron	5		dimension	advanced guild shop, bounty targets (cca 1-20)				1	for white
	Turquoise	10		dimension	bounty targets (cca 21-40)	CW			1	for green
	Blue Crystaloid	15		dimension	bounty targets (cca 41-60)	CSGB			1	for blue
	Red Copper	20		dimension	bounty targets (cca 61-80)				1	for purple
	Golden Sand	25							1	for yellow
- Legendary Equipment
	Green Flames	10					20 ub			white to green
	Blue Flames	15					20 ub			green to blue
	Violet Flame	20					20 ub			blue o violet
	Hellish Flame	25					20 ub			violet to yellow
- Refine
	Rough Stone	1								for white
	Smooth Stone	1								for green
	Darksteel Rock	4								for blue
	Well Refined Stone	18								for purple
	Dragon Blood Stone	18								for yellow
- Socket
	Diamonds	upto 7:4, 8-10:3, 11-12:2			Bounty Targets					higher gear can socket more
Skills
	Class	10, 40, 160, 640 ... per skill			Eudemon Arena		50 bb except Scourge's 30 bb		5 classes x10 skills	10 per class
	Generic	same			Eudemon Arena				4
Warpath
	Warpath crystal	30, ..., 4000		ToK	ToK, Eudemon Arena				1
	Eudemon RES reduction Essence			ToK	Tok, Eudemon Arena				1
	Eudemon resistance essence			ToK	ToK, Eudemon Arena				1
Acquisition
	Eudemon Shards	5		dimension, sacrify	Bounty Targets up to 56				1

So in summary:
- skills grow exponentially and drops 2 per win, 1 per loss in eudemon arena is not enough
- flames for gear upgrades only for balens (or some chest exchanges)
- stones for gear enchant limited how far we went in bounty targets, for additional eudemons need wait on cross-server events, or wait with all the classes on low levels to enchant all gears on all eudemons
- eudemon shards on low levels of Bounty targets, so wait till you get all eudemons you need

Recommendations:
- reconsider Bounty Target drops strategy, it is designed for single eudemon
- increase drops for skills as exponential curve is too big (10, 4*10, 4²*10, 4³*10 ...)
- flames need drops
- think about inventory space

nice ( i think many ppl has already know this, BUT as I said: nice )

[P-J-J]

nice ( i think many ppl has already know this, BUT as I said: nice )

It was created to show where is the gap between support for free (including bb) and cash players and issue with Bounty Target rewards and skills (inventory and exponential curve demand, so lvl 8 skill is 5 years target for free players).

It seems to me that product management need such map to explain to him something about the issue they caused by dropping free items in patch 4.5 and 5.0.

If you know which cross-server events drop some materials, I can update.

[Barraind]

The enchant mats have overlap. Can still get Blue (and l2 gems) at 78.
L3 HP gems can drop up to 12 (that Ive seen)

[AdaJames]

Try getting white iron and turquoise to drop, Barraind, at L78.

[Shiva_]

flames are always 20 needed to upgrade, doesnt matter what coller,

And skill cost for wind ranger isnt 50 bb but 50 ub in shop.

[R238423534]

thanks for posting this summary. i'm bookmarking this thread for reference

[R274038]

once again cant upgrade gear on eudaemons because i have diamonds game devs are idiots.no guidance no socketing rods to removed diamonds just filled up my inventory.im tired of this **** trying to clear inventory stuff i need but holding and saving until someone with a brain fixes this game