Fix your damn classes - or at least re-balance them so everyone has a chance

[G-Elite]

knights sucks , end of story ....

Sorry, this section isn't for ignorant people. Your post will be removed soon -trollface-

[R23100315]

knights sucks , end of story ....

[akirayama0ka]

hmmm
mage sux?? r u sure?

12k patk knight with 6k mdef will beat mage with 12k matk n 6kpdef o u think not?

archer with 12k patk will beat mage easy


for example my stats 12kmatk (astra + 20%dmg), 32k hp, 6,1kpdef, 11,5k mdef my damage vs:

archers with 5,5-6k mdef around 7-8k from rof n ~5k from bolt, archer with same patk hit me by multishot 10-12k , wo crit by first skill (dnt remember name) 4,5-5k but multi shot hit every 2nd turn so every 2nd turn i get 10-12k dmg , i cant hit so much every 2nd turn bcs cd ye? u wanna said troops must help? ye from 1 attack from archer or 2 attacks from knight (so archer need do 2 turn for kill my troops, knights need do 4 turn for kill troops, mage need same as archer 2 turn)

about knight , mages must be anti-class of knight but it isn true, why? they have to much stat boost from passive, nice regen, agoran shield, dmg reduction , what mages have? just matk wich easy to penetrte knight armor , but they have low pdef..so its not mages proc its just balance between knight n mage, but how i said knights have a lot way to save him from dmg, mages have nothing, heal? for heal u must eat toi much rage n lose turn, knights can eat yr rage


Yes im sure mages sux, maybe they cool at 35-44 but after 55+ they ololo, they all game sux, n knights whining, omg i can give u my mage if u think that knights sux


p.s. my mage 55lvl 39k br, i know what about i talking if u think they if u easy kill ppl wich br less then yr on 10-15k or have gear diff on X5 or X0 lvl u lol

[G-Elite]

Isn't it weird to think knights should out do archers in damage? The class is for tanking, so more defense is better.

Compare to knights, other two classes don't have that much defense and HP. Heal on block gives knights so much HP it's not funny. Without troops, unless the archer have 5k BR more than the knight, they are pretty much dead. And it's the same to mages. Knights reap archers' medium Pdef to pieces.

And you who talked about games much, much more complicated than this one, haven't taken a look at the skill tree or what? As I have said above, knights are for tanking and their skills are also lean towards tanking. Building them to a different path is harder and would need to spend some money on it to make it work as well as tank build.

ye right that's why our server's ranked 1 is a knight who hits with 8k and both MDEF and PDEF are 6+ and the 2nd is a mage hits less but has the same amount of PDEF and MDEF, isn't it obvious yet that cash is everything ? lol'ed
btw you said knights for tanking but have u ever heard about dps knight build ? lolz

[idnshu]

hmmm
mage sux?? r u sure?

[akirayama0ka]

in this game only mages sux, if i have same stats on knights wich my mage have, i pwned everyone on my server

[XrosSlash]

listen listen... knight is awesome. if i had second chance i will reroll for knight for sure.
i have main archer n mage alt (already retired tho). n i hate a good knight. its so hard to take em down. archer?? no no no.
my advice: u knight, be patience, u will shine later.

[idnshu]

weird... seeing someone said Knight is no good while I'm mage and rrly scared to fight knight with good build

[Hyorinmaru6]

I am a knight and i make archers look weak as long as they are on my lvl

but yea i do get pawned by SOME mages but not every mage

i am pure non casher who will probably not be a casher

my academy are on the same lvl i am and my guild skills ok i accept my guild skills are not up to my lvl just yet but i am working on it and i am doing it ASAP but as for astrals i have been trying to get gold astrals but i keep getting stupid blue or purple charisma astrals which i do not need so i am working the hard way (star points ha ha ha)

my equipment well they are good

my gems most are lvl 5 only 2 of them are lvl 4 which will soon be lvl 5 too and none of them came from item shop or balens they all came from crypts or event or quests

i do pretty well for a non casher knight and lite and moderate cashers on my lvl can't win against me easily unless they use potions and runes just to to survive longer

my most hardest to beat class are mages since knights are based on HP and Pdef its easy to kill them and archers go all power and no defense and HP tend to die before i even hit 50% HP

my balens thats currently 14 balens in my page comes from free balens and that too only video watching



i am doing pretty well i do find the annoying slow attacks to be a headache but still its ok since i wear HEAVY ARMOR and wield a HEAVY SWORD which is half my size and also have a HEAVY PRIDE its ok since I LOOK COOL ANYWAY hahaha


we knights can steal rage which works like a charm against mages and we reverse damage which works soo good against both archers and mages as long as they are not lvl 60+ hahahah

we have a temporary invincibility which can only be cut by attacks more stronger than our 20% HP and scatter shot by archers which is rare to see

and also we have the highest grade of damage skills since our S class attacks makes any class look like a joke

knights are good after u build them right and after lvl 50 thats a fact and i am living proof just hit higher lvl and pawn the archers then u will see archers whining hahahah

[DeathRiver]

This is funny. If people would open there mind and see that an archer can go 3 times in 2 turns because of there multi shot and they also have there deep freeze witch is a pain in the ***. You don't see any other class with a way to slow down players. I look at my cousins archer and his archer gets more default strength than my warrior it shows that archers get more. He gets less bonus from power and attack from his gear than i do and he still has more strength. I done the comparison. I would have beaten him once out of 50 times if he didn't use his deep freeze. I know plenty about gaming. I played a game 100000x times more complicated than this and was way better. Will i continue to play, sure, but you wont see me wanting to spend any money on a game when a class gets more attacks, strength, or attack power from moves than me.

Isn't it weird to think knights should out do archers in damage? The class is for tanking, so more defense is better.

Compare to knights, other two classes don't have that much defense and HP. Heal on block gives knights so much HP it's not funny. Without troops, unless the archer have 5k BR more than the knight, they are pretty much dead. And it's the same to mages. Knights reap archers' medium Pdef to pieces.

And you who talked about games much, much more complicated than this one, haven't taken a look at the skill tree or what? As I have said above, knights are for tanking and their skills are also lean towards tanking. Building them to a different path is harder and would need to spend some money on it to make it work as well as tank build.

OP has a point though. The game rewards brute force. =( Still kinda fun tanking along at 65 - but it's nutty to think a knight can take out higher floors of Necro before or the same time as an archer. :P

Yeah... the place is for killing as fast as possible

Knights will still suffer in Catacombs and Necropolis just as usual...

[Phyxie]

lol too much whinning before u reach high level and i bet that u don't even build ur knight right enough or simply didn't upgrade ur academy, guild skills and gems tho....
Just my 2 cents

P/s: U should see what a high level or correctly build knight could do

[KnowingEyes7]

OP has a point though. The game rewards brute force. =( Still kinda fun tanking along at 65 - but it's nutty to think a knight can take out higher floors of Necro before or the same time as an archer. :P

[Ruise]

Becouse archer is attacking type.
If you want attack, play archer. Knight comes for def, not attack.
You can expect a game with two attacking type, right?
A knight already got high def, if you ask them to make it into attacking type to, think twice. That what called the real inbalance.
If that really happen, tell me on what place mage will be?
Just healing? We'll surelly get pawned with other. Mages need to work harder to maintain their pdef without neglecting the other stat.


And whinning for deep freeze?
Then move to front row, you won't get any deep freeze if you're troops still alive.

And your cousin?
He get less bonus from his gear but more power than you?
Have you check the other aspek?
Gems, academy, guild skill, gear status, astral, and yada-yada~~

[Dragonrex]

Sigh... another whiny thread about knights... Have you even reached 45 yet, Sir?

I fear knights that built the right way much more than rich knights that wrongly built. Since most wrongly built knights (Crit damage or no block) die before they can even reach me.

Tank and hybrid knights with high block scare the **** out of me whenever I run into them.

It's all about how you build it, not how much you spend. All classes have strengths and weaknesses, you just haven't played long enough to see how knights dominate.

This is funny. If people would open there mind and see that an archer can go 3 times in 2 turns because of there multi shot and they also have there deep freeze witch is a pain in the ***. You don't see any other class with a way to slow down players. I look at my cousins archer and his archer gets more default strength than my warrior it shows that archers get more. He gets less bonus from power and attack from his gear than i do and he still has more strength. I done the comparison. I would have beaten him once out of 50 times if he didn't use his deep freeze. I know plenty about gaming. I played a game 100000x times more complicated than this and was way better. Will i continue to play, sure, but you wont see me wanting to spend any money on a game when a class gets more attacks, strength, or attack power from moves than me.

[DeathRiver]

Sigh... another whiny thread about knights... Have you even reached 45 yet, Sir?

I fear knights that built the right way much more than rich knights that wrongly built. Since most wrongly built knights (Crit damage or no block) die before they can even reach me.

Tank and hybrid knights with high block scare the **** out of me whenever I run into them.

It's all about how you build it, not how much you spend. All classes have strengths and weaknesses, you just haven't played long enough to see how knights dominate.