Stop complaining to R2 about your lag, sheesh

[R21577189]

Fun read miss alot but fun read.

Explaine me this then.

4 browsers running 4 chars each on their own server.

no matter what browser i use for the 3 NO LAG.

but for that 1 account LAG. Each account also have a hero on the same server as the other.

Again NO lag with the 3 accounts on the server that the 1 account lagged on, but the heroes that account has on the other servers do not LAG either.

Now if this is pure my PC and hardware how come 1 account of 4, only LAGS in 1 of 4 servers all in same region as me.

That shows not always is the issue with the PC.

It do not matter if i run each account SOLO on a CLEAN fresh install or even if i use another PC of my few PC's.

Heck even on a crappy old laptop only this 1 hero on 1 server lag, the other servers nothing, the other accounts on the servers they are on plus this 1 server nothing.

Yes some lag could be due to your PC but saying ALL lag is PLEASE.

Maybe u pm ratty mod, kitty mod or knowing eyes with your installation setup
or try flash 10.3?
Maybe you got some installations wrong?
The mods know the game better so maybe they have the correct idea on what installations so that u wont lag.

[R21577189]

Dude everyone has the major lag. Other games do not have this intense lag. Other R2 games do not. SO your comment is your opinion and my comment is my opinion.
And i know my computer i went and got my PHD for technology at University of Tokyo. SO Do not tell me I do not check my hardware with *wartune's capacity *

Maybe u ask knowing eyes, kitty mod and ratty mod to teach u the software installation or tweaks for wartune.
Probably ask them politely and humbly.

[TimlaVmun]

Looks like everybody missed where I said

(obviously not absolutely positive since I don't play on all servers)

and

There may actually be bad servers, but it's difficult to pinpoint those servers when those with old/crappy PCs are blaming it on the server and not on their PC.

and

Locate the true root of the problem. Act accordingly.

Let me see if I can reword this so you guys can understand:

There can be server issues that can make somebody lag. People who lag because of their PCs shouldn't blame it on the server because then those who actually have bad servers will be ignored.

Does that make more sense?

[KnowingEyes7]

The issues may be mutual but in my experience on the other side, a vast majority of cases had to do with client setup. I know it's an unpopular finding but it's true.

[BrixunMortar]

enough with blaming users pc's already! if the game ran fine before new patch and doesn't after it, then it clearly points to a coding problem on the server end!

[KnowingEyes7]

enough with blaming users pc's already! if the game ran fine before new patch and doesn't after it, then it clearly points to a coding problem on the server end!

Unfortunately not.

Though there is some blame for having all textures prerendered with no real option for a lower quality to assuage the masses with low(er) end specs - and the resource count has grown quite a bit with respect to the object count in the recent patch, the majority of the time, after working with users, it was a client side issue. If you have experience in taking issues via the tickets and handling them, then you would see this.

The servers seemingly have been a little unstable post-patch too... so it's safe to say there's some responsibility shared in this regard.

Flame away.

[theIdark]

the lag comes when gb attender up to 30+/team, if you didnt get lag,maybe you stay@ dead guild, stop posting fail post

[jmadrox]

i see you are quite insufficiently educated, IT speaking.

First off, the complains about guild battle lagging is indeed valid since it affects mostly players of the same region (not just players with crappy pc specs), goes to show that the server with which they host the guild battle is somewhat "inaccessible" to players in certain countries not just those with lousy pcs.

next, you failed to see that a good amount of lag problems comes not from lousy pc specs, but due to software incompatibility. and sometimes even resolution problems (like i saw the other thread about wartune having problems with a certain resolution setting which got fixed after problem was made known). And do you know the complexities behind coding a game that needs to be compatible across all platforms and all browsers? it is just ridiculous that you see anyone who is complaining of having lags and problems with the game as just having a crappy pc.

so now, r2/7road are the developers of the game, who knows the technicalities of the game which they have made and coded. If we do not complain to them and let them know about the problems and bugs (and don't even mention doing it through tickets, they take weeks to give a single reply n occasions) that exists in order for them to fix it, then who will fix the problems? could it be you?

just because of your own personal experience of having lag issues fixed after getting a new pc, that doesn't represent that all players having technical issues with wartune are just having crappy pc.

you said you're pretty sure that all lags are player's pc fault, not r2. To that, i'm pretty pretty sure you are wrong. so is r2 pretty sure of that or anyone with a clue about IT.

you dont read well. he said some may be r2's fault, but those with crappy pc specs, are spamming the forum blaming r2, which they do, and it's dumb. i defragged, and restored my cpu, and cleared my cahe's. before i had tremendous lag in bg, mp's, and wb. now i have no lag. it's simple kids. you don't lag? dont watch porn, and this is comiong from a 12 year runescape playing vet mr IT man, and my brother is certified in networking, and technologies, so dont try to use your superior education to try to trick people into thinking it's all r2's fault because it isn't, and eince your defending the one's who are lagging because of their spec's, that either makes you ignorant or stupid, and aparently you have ITcreds, so your not ignorant. so which one are you?

[shynnblu]

you dont read well. he said some may be r2's fault, but those with crappy pc specs, are spamming the forum blaming r2, which they do, and it's dumb. i defragged, and restored my cpu, and cleared my cahe's. before i had tremendous lag in bg, mp's, and wb. now i have no lag. it's simple kids. you don't lag? dont watch porn, and this is comiong from a 12 year runescape playing vet mr IT man, and my brother is certified in networking, and technologies, so dont try to use your superior education to try to trick people into thinking it's all r2's fault because it isn't, and eince your defending the one's who are lagging because of their spec's, that either makes you ignorant or stupid, and aparently you have ITcreds, so your not ignorant. so which one are you?

are you serious? take a good look at the general outlook of her post..

I'm pretty sure (obviously not absolutely positive since I don't play on all servers) that the lag is your PC's fault, not R2's."

so you can be pretty sure and not absolutely positive at the same time. so which one is it? make up the frikin mind its either
pretty sure or not absolutely sure. is like saying yes pretty sure u stole the money but not absolutely positively sure about it.. but you take blame anyway, stop blaming the others. you see the point?

same with this one:

So please stop complaining about lag. If it really is a server problem, those of you with crappy computers that complain of lag are making it seem like those who really have bad servers have bad PCs too, which may not be the case.

on what grounds does he/she demand us to stop complaining about the lag when he/she isn't even sure whether the complainers really have bad pcs or its really just the server prob? i'll tell ya what its meant there.. what he/she mean was " idon't care whether your problem is a genuine case of faulty server or was it just crappy pc.. but just **** and stop complainng" -- thats what was meant.

locate the true root of the problem, act accordingly

sure we can all do that without complains and lets agree the game is all perfectly fine and awesome.
so yea, try to reword as best as you can to hide that intention of the post, but it doesn't really matter.

and to you jmadrox, big congratz to you, you figured out how to defrag, do system restore and clear cache. so you attribute all game issues to just that, and not watching porn. i bet you assume 90% of us do not know how to defrag, do system restore or clear cache because you just figured how to do it. And anoher point i don't understand.. what has your brother's certification in networking and tech got to do with the topic? you did not even establish a link (which i doubt there is) between your brother's certification and how it may help our cause. And i can't believe i am reading what i am reading.. did you just accuse of me tricking people into thinking all blames are to r2? Im only posting in this thread as a defensive counter against TS's attempt in trying to get everyone thinking crappy pcs are the root of all problems, albeit some paradoxical statements made such as those quoted, that might actually help to conceal how unfair and onesided on the overall, the post was.

[TimlaVmun]

the lag comes when gb attender up to 30+/team, if you didnt get lag,maybe you stay@ dead guild, stop posting fail post

lol my guild is one of the top guilds on my server. We were second before the merge. Assumptions = bad.

I'll use your wise words...

stop posting fail post

[TimlaVmun]

so you can be pretty sure and not absolutely positive at the same time. so which one is it? make up the frikin mind its either
pretty sure or not absolutely sure. is like saying yes pretty sure u stole the money but not absolutely positively sure about it.. but you take blame anyway, stop blaming the others. you see the point?

Your example is terrible. I am pretty sure about something, but I can't be absolutely 100% positive because I am not in everybody's situation. If that makes no sense to you, I can't help that. Take an English class or something.

on what grounds does he/she demand us to stop complaining about the lag when he/she isn't even sure whether the complainers really have bad pcs or its really just the server prob? i'll tell ya what its meant there.. what he/she mean was " idon't care whether your problem is a genuine case of faulty server or was it just crappy pc.. but just **** and stop complainng" -- thats what was meant.

I wrote "Locate the true root of the problem. Act accordingly." This is simple. Find out why you are lagging, and fix it. Don't blame R2 for your lag when you're not even sure if that's the case. If it is, tell them. But only do so when you are positive that it's not your PC, internet connection, etc.
Also, I wrote that because people who actually do have problems with lag because of R2 will be overlooked because everybody blames R2, and I can assure you that some of those people should be blaming their PCs instead.

sure we can all do that without complains and lets agree the game is all perfectly fine and awesome.
so yea, try to reword as best as you can to hide that intention of the post, but it doesn't really matter.

Probably not. Your English is pretty bad and you can't understand my logic and reasoning. I'm trying to make it easier for you to understand but you're so dull it's not working. -sigh-

...And, actually, you know what? Maybe I do mean I don't care and ****. With people like you I don't really care. No, I don't care about you or your lag, theIdark. I want you to **** and travel to the moon and get really sad because you discover there is no bacon.
Does that **** you off? Are you really genuinely disappointed that I don't care? Obviously not. So why do you seem so mad when you're saying that I don't care? If I don't care, who cares that I don't care?! I'm just another a--hole on the internet, right? Chill. Use your mind, not your emotions.

[Spinsar]

There seems to be a correlation with Asian and Indonesian players and the guild battle lag. They are the only ones who have a problem in my guild and it is a bunch of them so this does make it seem a lot more than just on the client side.

[dwmedia]

People think is allways servern wrong, many times need is owns own wrong to lag, bad computer, or try rebout modem osv can be nessery to a reset sometimes.

But sometimes is servern wrong to lag but its not allways 100% server lagg.

[shynnblu]

Your example is terrible. I am pretty sure about something, but I can't be absolutely 100% positive because I am not in everybody's situation. If that makes no sense to you, I can't help that. Take an English class or something.



I wrote "Locate the true root of the problem. Act accordingly." This is simple. Find out why you are lagging, and fix it. Don't blame R2 for your lag when you're not even sure if that's the case. If it is, tell them. But only do so when you are positive that it's not your PC, internet connection, etc.
Also, I wrote that because people who actually do have problems with lag because of R2 will be overlooked because everybody blames R2, and I can assure you that some of those people should be blaming their PCs instead.



Probably not. Your English is pretty bad and you can't understand my logic and reasoning. I'm trying to make it easier for you to understand but you're so dull it's not working. -sigh-

...And, actually, you know what? Maybe I do mean I don't care and ****. With people like you I don't really care. No, I don't care about you or your lag, theIdark. I want you to **** and travel to the moon and get really sad because you discover there is no bacon.
Does that **** you off? Are you really genuinely disappointed that I don't care? Obviously not. So why do you seem so mad when you're saying that I don't care? If I don't care, who cares that I don't care?! I'm just another a--hole on the internet, right? Chill. Use your mind, not your emotions.

if 90% of your words are simply ad hominems then i can fully understand where your first post came from.

look what's happening here, so many players are complaining about gb lag issues with great certainty, (after comparing pc specs, player locations, connection speeds, analysing the situation before and after patch, and many other measures taken) that the issue is most likely server side and not with their pc specs. And then, you came waltzing in asking everyone to stop crying like a baby because your lag issue is now gone after you have purchased a sparkling, new shiny new pc, and you don't wanna hear anymore whining about people having lags because it now frustrates you. You were asking everyone to stop complaining (not just the selected few bad complainers) so don't come give us the **** now by ammending your original idea after realising it doesn't work by saying things like "oh, some genuine cases might be overlooked by r2"

and i'm sorry to say, but accusing others of having bad language, logic and reasoning without first examining what kind of post you have given us in the first place is pure absurdity. not that i haven't explicitly told you what exactly is wrong with your first post (speaking of not understanding simple logic and reasoning). And i also refuse to plunge down to the moral low ground (like you did) by calling you dull and making a direct attack on your personality by using words like "with people like you" because we all know that doesn't help.

And please quote the correct guy, if you fail to even do that then.. oh well.

[Kitwritten]

just a reminder R2Games-Rules try and keep things within the rules as I do not want to have the thread dissolve into a flame match... and the info that is being posted, is very valuable to me.....