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  • BrewKhan
    started a topic immune to crit for WB

    immune to crit for WB

    you made the world boss immune to stun and slow
    why can't you make it immune to critical also?
    it would be much fairer to all classes.
    thanks to the new wb system (the damage increases based on damage treshold) the archer swarming the top 10 ladder.

  • Unified_Serenity
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    I posted this in another thread, and while it might not be perfect it would even the playing field a little concerning how much of a disparity in getting daru there is since archers get far more on wb than knights or mages:

    The solution is easy. It is well known that archers get this unfair advantage in wb. I would base the amount suggested below on one's level for knight or mage in the catacomb. Let every 25 levels they complete give them say, 150k for those between lvl 40 to 44 250k for 45 to 50, 350k for lvl 50 -54 and 450k for lvl 55-60 daru as a reward. So, if you can reach lvl 100 you get as a knight or mage the accumulated amount. It appears based on my chats with archers of my level that they get more than that a day doing 3 world bosses. This would help even the playing field a little so we can get our troops up as easily as they do. As it is, I have been farming daru for a month now and have 21mil saved. I farm constantly btw, and by that I mean probably 4 to 5 hours a day.

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  • R29998503
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    That's a terrible idea! Don't have to hurt Archers to help the others. Just do something to aid Knights and Mages in WB. Crit is what makes the Archer. You can't take that away.

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  • infernal13
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    If wb would be immune to crits the problem would still persist, you just replaced archers by mages, except you totally wrecked archers in the process, each class has the luxury to go crit build (and i know it's not optimal, but they can), but archers can't go will destroyer build, simply because archers are basically designed around crit, archers depend on crits for rage gain and pretty much damage too (their base skill dmg is on par if not worse, and i believe it is worse, than that of a mage).

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  • Rex_Typhoon
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    Originally posted by KnowingEyes7 View Post
    ... and knights?
    I'm a mage so ... who cares?

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  • KnowingEyes7
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    Originally posted by quseio View Post
    this is why i said there should be a multi target wb one with 6 heads maybe then mages could get on the wb top 10
    ... and knights?

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  • quseio
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    this is why i said there should be a multi target wb one with 6 heads maybe then mages could get on the wb top 10

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  • Rex_Typhoon
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    Originally posted by R24907107 View Post
    What does Warrior's Mark have to do with WB? Perhaps you mean a title.
    I believe if you are top 3 on WB you get a Warrior's Mark (bonus Daru and Gold). It's not just the box from Cross Server PvP.

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  • Zaaqen
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    The crit rate increase on WB was the problem, not crits in general. The problem with the world boss innately being better for archers is that archers will always be ahead (relative to power) in the gold sinks. If they needed more gold than everyone else, that would be fair, but they dont. Every class needs gold equally.

    Sadly, because it's based solely on damage, they just force people to focus entirely on damage and ignore everything else if they truly want to get ahead in the game (because gold is so important to every aspect of the game). It's really poor design, quite frankly.

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  • Billy_McF
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    How about making the WB crit immune and at the same time make the WB will destroyer immune!

    Or just for good measure make the WB Patk/Matk immune

    That would be fair to all classes wouldn't it? We could all attack for the full hour and come out with the same amount of gold/daru. Problem solved LMAO
    Last edited by Billy_McF; 03-24-2013, 02:24 PM.

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  • KnowingEyes7
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    Originally posted by bakuryuuha View Post
    Actually I fully agree with him. If someone out cashes everyone else in their server, it doesn't matter what class they r. An archer with 22k patk and 4k+ crit value and lvl 7 enhanced determination astral will not outdmg a knight with 25k patk lvl 8 enhanced will destroyer. The reason for this is because while an archer gets more dmg with crits, even with 4k crit value they do not crit on every hit. A knight/mage with high lvl EWD will do consistent high dmg to WB and if they have as much or higher patk than the archer, they will almost always outdmg them if the archer misses a few crits each round.
    You're incorrect. Unless a knight pumps in crazy levels of cash, archers will out damage. There is also a point at which a knght can never surpass an archer if said archer reaches a certain BR/power level. We call it, the event horizon - because of the 'black hole' effect. You should see the rotation our top archers use versus knights.

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  • R24907107
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    What does Warrior's Mark have to do with WB? Perhaps you mean a title.

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  • Rex_Typhoon
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    I hate archers (I'm a mage) and even I wouldn't do something this cruel to them. Let them have their day in the sun with WB - it doesn't really impact your Gold and Daru gains unless you think you're good enough to get the Warrior's Mark.

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  • bakuryuuha
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    Originally posted by KnowingEyes7 View Post
    I agreed with you until the last four words.
    Actually I fully agree with him. If someone out cashes everyone else in their server, it doesn't matter what class they r. An archer with 22k patk and 4k+ crit value and lvl 7 enhanced determination astral will not outdmg a knight with 25k patk lvl 8 enhanced will destroyer. The reason for this is because while an archer gets more dmg with crits, even with 4k crit value they do not crit on every hit. A knight/mage with high lvl EWD will do consistent high dmg to WB and if they have as much or higher patk than the archer, they will almost always outdmg them if the archer misses a few crits each round.

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  • KnowingEyes7
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    Originally posted by Oxykotton View Post
    Archers need crit for rage build. Take away crit means they won't be able to build rage. They are already the worst class to gain rage with. THis is silly thing. Knights may not get top 10 all the time but who cares. You still get tons of daru and gold from it which is the most important thing about it. Top 3 will only go to the hard cashers no matter what class.
    I agreed with you until the last four words.

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