Should be awsome in the altar and World boss a Top list for /e class, So mage hunt mage, Archer vs Archer, Knight vs Knight and them them all 3 classes top 3 rewrd.
So its just balans spenders in /e class some stole rank 3 reward. But if archer spend balans them dosent destory for mage or knight for them have own rank list.
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Originally posted by Billy_McF View PostGo build up your crit, get rid of will destroyer and then the gap will close.
Mages and knights have two ways to build their character, either crit or will destroyer, without compromising how they can operate.
Archers do not have this choice, crit is a necessity as they don't build rage as easily or quickly as other classes, and rage consumption is far greater than other classes also.
Also, as an Archer, I would love a Mage/knight specific defense astral, that not only reduces the damage taken, but also impacts the ability to gain rage.(Guardian Angel astral).
But I suppose that would mean giving up some of the advantages you have OVER archers, and that is NEVER talked about is it!
The solution is easy. It is well known that archers get this unfair advantage in wb. I would base the amount suggested below on one's level for knight or mage in the catacomb. Let every 25 levels they complete give them say, 150k for those between lvl 40 to 44 250k for 45 to 49, 350k for lvl 50 -54 and 450k for lvl 55-59 daru / gold as a reward. So, if you can reach lvl 100 you get as a knight or mage the accumulated amount. It appears based on my chats with archers of my level that they get more than that a day doing 3 world bosses. This would help even the playing field a little so we can get our troops and astrals up as easily as they do. As it is, I have been farming daru for a month now and have 21mil saved. I farm constantly btw, and by that I mean probably 4 to 5 hours a day.
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Originally posted by KnowingEyes7 View PostIt will if you can get your crit rating to 1.5k-ish and ... maybe even lower. Determination should be at around 5 too.
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Originally posted by R26757419 View PostAnd you suck as an archer, constantly losing to dink , with a large gap, but your power is now equal.
So who lacks in skill here? YOU.
In this game SAME POWER= SAME RESULT. You manage to lose instead, very well done.
P.S: There's at least 25 archers maybe more in our server (me included) that can do much better than you with equal stats... and they probably wonder why you lose so badly vs dink.... do he has a secret? ahaha.. or maybe u are not good enough?
Think before saying "you suck" to somebody, cause you really do.
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Originally posted by splinterz3 View PostThank you Elusion, I am level 64 as well
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At the start of WB with heroic inspiration at 50%, The MATK jumps to 22k+ Thunderer hits for about 45k, double attack hits for about 25k. By the end of WB, it can be as high as 60k Thunderer and 40k for a double attack. I will try it without the Will Destroyer. I am not convinced that crit will replace 35% damage bonus from Will Destroyer and improve my position.
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Originally posted by ElusionM View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]37589[/ATTACH]
Lightning - 20k crit.
Rain of Fire - 20k crit x2
Meteor - 20k crit x2
Thunderer - 60-70k crit
Roughly what I get per crit with those stats at probably 75-85% rate? So yes, crit is certainly viable and the best possible choice for World Boss
Thank you Elusion, I am level 64 as well
At the start of WB with heroic inspiration at 50%, The MATK jumps to 22k+ Thunderer hits for about 45k, double attack hits for about 25k. By the end of WB, it can be as high as 60k Thunderer and 40k for a double attack. I will try it without the Will Destroyer. I am not convinced that crit will replace 35% damage bonus from Will Destroyer and improve my position.
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Originally posted by R26757419 View PostAnd you suck as an archer, constantly losing to dink , with a large gap, but your power is now equal.
So who lacks in skill here? YOU.
In this game SAME POWER= SAME RESULT. You manage to lose instead, very well done.
P.S: There's at least 25 archers maybe more in our server (me included) that can do much better than you with equal stats... and they probably wonder why you lose so badly vs dink.... do he has a secret? ahaha.. or maybe u are not good enough?
Think before saying "you suck" to somebody, cause you really do.
Something else to consider: If Pern loses to Dink, then doesn't that mean you get absolutely obliterated by Dink?
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Originally posted by ElusionM View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]37589[/ATTACH]
Lightning - 20k crit.
Rain of Fire - 20k crit x2
Meteor - 20k crit x2
Thunderer - 60-70k crit
Roughly what I get per crit with those stats at probably 75-85% rate? So yes, crit is certainly viable and the best possible choice for World Boss
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Originally posted by onimad View Postthis game won't allow u to b best in everything except if u give the best of your money for R2.
even u give them everything u got they still mess you up.
LOL
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Originally posted by ysolar View Posti am a mage, and fight a mage that has critical, mages critical does not always work, also, the crit u get from base is no where near what an archer gets, so i would say, u could maybe do a bit better, but u really cant compete with the archers, they get good hits everytime, i time my mage, for the double hgit, only works part the time, i also skip turns, wb hits me 2 times to my 1, so i get 3 to 6 hits each time i hit, they need to fix the issues, and make it far for us all
Also, not sure what base crit damage for archers are, but as far as mages go it appears to be 75%. I think it's the same for all classes.
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Originally posted by ElusionM View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]37589[/ATTACH]
Lightning - 20k crit.
Rain of Fire - 20k crit x2
Meteor - 20k crit x2
Thunderer - 60-70k crit
Roughly what I get per crit with those stats at probably 75-85% rate? So yes, crit is certainly viable and the best possible choice for World Boss
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Originally posted by Ashanie View Postthis again?come on ppl each class is made for something..unless this is your FIRST mmo ever knights are tanks,mages are for aoe archers/hunters are for long range dps warriors are offtanks with good damage....theres no warrior here so dont expect your knight to be one.archers have advantages in wb because they are made for dps and everyone knows about double hit for everyclass can do it at wb i afk slasher and both delphics on 80k runs i can double hit my slasher uslasher and i can cast my normal delphic(before the wb attacks) in 1 turn.archers are made for dps dont expect knights which are made to take damage to beat them at wb mages can epic cd on their skills so its easier for them and they have hard hitting attack that cost 50 rage but at same time noooooo class i seen can measure up to a knights delphic if your a good knight u can 1hit a mage with normal delphic if your in 1min bonus and their full hp...if they last that long and you should be able to 1hit an archer with edd at that time too mages advantage are low rage skills and aoes while knights have to kill whos in front first to get to them and archers some what have random hits mages get to hit evvvvverrrryyything at once and with good damage too 1hit current troops np..so everyone good for something cause for you good knights out there im sure u realize pvp is getting rather easy archers dont stand a chance and if the mage makes u live to see 1min bonus..they done for
Unless you wanna be a *whale*?
You're missing the point of the post entirely, all classes need gold, so unless you're prepared to sub your gold acquisition with Balens, you won't have a hope of keeping up with the gold...Last edited by PunkPetal; 03-27-2013, 01:18 PM.
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i am a mage, and fight a mage that has critical, mages critical does not always work, also, the crit u get from base is no where near what an archer gets, so i would say, u could maybe do a bit better, but u really cant compete with the archers, they get good hits everytime, i time my mage, for the double hgit, only works part the time, i also skip turns, wb hits me 2 times to my 1, so i get 3 to 6 hits each time i hit, they need to fix the issues, and make it far for us all
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Originally posted by splinterz3 View PostMy mage has 14,560 MATK and I usually finish inside the top 20, but never in the top 10.
I use Thunderer in turn one and just use auto attack and lightning bolt for the remaining 5 turns. During the whole WB I probaby hit the mob about 160 - 200 times. My average damage is about 15,000 per hit. It's starts low and get higher, but the average is 15,000.
An archer I know has 14,870 PATK. During WB he puts Delphic Sniper and Arrow strike on his skills bar, nothing else. He then uses AFK mode in WB. His average damage is 19,000. This is simply because of Crit.
Firstly it's annoying because he doesn't even have to play, all he has to do is click the boss. Secondly it's annoying because he walks away with about 150k more gold and daru than I do.
So the question is, can knights and mages using Will Destroyer switch to Critical and improve the average damage they do in WB? If the answer to that question is no, then archers have an unfair advantage in WB.
Lightning - 20k crit.
Rain of Fire - 20k crit x2
Meteor - 20k crit x2
Thunderer - 60-70k crit
Roughly what I get per crit with those stats at probably 75-85% rate? So yes, crit is certainly viable and the best possible choice for World Boss
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this again?come on ppl each class is made for something..unless this is your FIRST mmo ever knights are tanks,mages are for aoe archers/hunters are for long range dps warriors are offtanks with good damage....theres no warrior here so dont expect your knight to be one.archers have advantages in wb because they are made for dps and everyone knows about double hit for everyclass can do it at wb i afk slasher and both delphics on 80k runs i can double hit my slasher uslasher and i can cast my normal delphic(before the wb attacks) in 1 turn.archers are made for dps dont expect knights which are made to take damage to beat them at wb mages can epic cd on their skills so its easier for them and they have hard hitting attack that cost 50 rage but at same time noooooo class i seen can measure up to a knights delphic if your a good knight u can 1hit a mage with normal delphic if your in 1min bonus and their full hp...if they last that long and you should be able to 1hit an archer with edd at that time too mages advantage are low rage skills and aoes while knights have to kill whos in front first to get to them and archers some what have random hits mages get to hit evvvvverrrryyything at once and with good damage too 1hit current troops np..so everyone good for something cause for you good knights out there im sure u realize pvp is getting rather easy archers dont stand a chance and if the mage makes u live to see 1min bonus..they done for
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