Bad Changes, Good Changes, New Changes

[kattuktk]

Knights are not the weakest class... archers are. But knights are the most "not needed" class as far as PvE goes....(only till the spire doesnt come out...archers will become useless then)

[DarkLachdanan]

posted in the wrong thread, sorry

[CrownQ]

Comment #11, why am i off ?
#15 but it unlocks ths skills for everyone as long as they have clothes, and like i said r2gaming are trying to let the non cashers in on the clothes as well with the recent events. And about dif between high lvl clothes and low lvl clothes, it is not that much, i agree it is a bit of a difference but not that much, a acceptable difference for the price they pay more.
#14 You have not noticed a change in Critical Strike so there is nothing more to discuss, you to not aknowledge the basic changes of the game so there is no reason more to discuss with you
#13 Yes i understand that you got Orange Astrals easier before the patch, but you still need to lvl them alot and it will cost you much more like every other player here, thats what i was triying to tell you with my statement
#16 My instinct tells me to just stop replying to you when you say that archers are weakest class, but my manners tell me i should, I do not want to make it a discusion about which class is weakeset. In the general opinion of most players as i have been reading on the forums and on the server i am playing on knights are like you said the most "not needed "class as pve goes and are basicly a step behind everything because they also get the lowest amount of gold at WB, so basicly there nerf was not needed, thats what i was trying to say with my previous statement

[kattuktk]

#16 My instinct tells me to just stop replying to you when you say that archers are weakest class, but my manners tell me i should, I do not want to make it a discusion about which class is weakeset. In the general opinion of most players as i have been reading on the forums and on the server i am playing on knights are like you said the most "not needed "class as pve goes and are basicly a step behind everything because they also get the lowest amount of gold at WB, so basicly there nerf was not needed, thats what i was trying to say with my previous statement

My instincts tell me that your not very high level maybe?? As anyone who has reached 60+ would know that archers are unarguably the absolute worst class in PvP(Spending amounts being equal ofc). Knights are extremely good in PvP but suck real bad in PvE so when you say that knights are a step behind "everything" you are wrong. Knights are not needed(in PvE) true but as a said with the spire coming its gonna change. Oh and block got nerfed yes but block was just "one" of the reasons as to why knights were scary in PvP... the other reasons are their tenacity, HP and their extremely powerful one target skills. So knight's block nerf has not "really" affected them that badly(except against mages). So in conclusion although knights dont get a fair share of the tasty WB cake they compensate for that in PvP.... the trend is like this.....
In my Opinion..
Knights -> Sux in PvE(spire being the only place where they are needed), great in PvP.
Archers -> Terrific in PvE(Except in spire), suck in PvP.
Mages -> Great everywhere

[Ashanie]

speak for your own knight i do very good in pve and my apollos and shield is the only reason my team pass temple nm boss
i also do rather well in pvp even though mages can heal after every fight me having my angels behind me and my shield and some block=around 4-5 fights without having to heal
wb sucks i agree there lol but i play mmo for call it 10yrs now so i dont expect a tank class to be doing great at a dps event.

[DarkLachdanan]

Aaaaaaaaaa

[CrownQ]

speak for your own knight i do very good in pve and my apollos and shield is the only reason my team pass temple nm boss
i also do rather well in pvp even though mages can heal after every fight me having my angels behind me and my shield and some block=around 4-5 fights without having to heal
wb sucks i agree there lol but i play mmo for call it 10yrs now so i dont expect a tank class to be doing great at a dps event.

Yes, you are right, i was going to say that the only pve i know that knights are in need is temple NM, forgot to mention that

As for #19, we are getting of topic, so i will not respond to your statement in this current thread, if you wish to discuss some more in a friendly way about t
he classes of Wartune feel free to pm me, and no i am not low lvl i am 67, 50k br but thats not the point.

[kattuktk]

speak for your own knight i do very good in pve and my apollos and shield is the only reason my team pass temple nm boss
i also do rather well in pvp even though mages can heal after every fight me having my angels behind me and my shield and some block=around 4-5 fights without having to heal
wb sucks i agree there lol but i play mmo for call it 10yrs now so i dont expect a tank class to be doing great at a dps event.

Oh wow nice you passed temple nm boss but guess what?? that benefits the "whole team"
The "solo" PvE events in this game are WB, catacombs and necropolis... a same BR archer or mage would be a lot better than a knights in these events. Even i can help my team pass nm dungeons(60+ ones) its not a big deal dude its really very easy....
Get this -> knights are the "WORST" PvE class in this game... 1) They get nothing from WB(compared to same BR archers and mages)
2) They struggle in cata and are usually behind a same BR mage or archer
3) They struggle in necropolis as that thing is a DPS race
4) They struggle in divine altar as that thing is also based on how much damage you do..
5) They struggle in guild battle points as that **** is also based on DPS.
Almost all the PvE events are based on DPS in this game so knights really suck in PvE and are far worse than the two other classes...(archers being the best in PvE imo)
Now dont make childish comments about some really powerful knight which you know that gets most in GB, necro etc as im talking about the same BR classes.
Plus as i have already said above... knights are needed in NM dungeons yes but mages and archers are equally needed so knights do not have an advantage there.... passing nm dungeons is not that big of a deal and all classes are needed to do that.. but the other classes are at an unfair advantage in the other events i mentioned above..
In conclusion, this game favours DPS classes as far as the PvE goes.... and knights are the worst at it.. case closed.

[7ziper]

5. Big Lag issues on GB

The bigger part of people do not experience what is called LAG, most of the people experience what is called DELAY but they call it LAG. If you are from the specific Region where your Server is and you have a good internet and decent pc you should not have any lag/delay. In this case the only reason you delay is because in the other 7 people that you are fighting with there is one that is from China on a Europe server, and downloading porn and he lags because of that..so because he lags he can not cast hes spell only after 45 seconds, and becaues he can not do that the round can not start and that is why you have to wait so much.
The only people that have lags are the ones that have bad internet/pc or are not from the recomended area for the server. In this case it is 50% there fault cause they did not choose the right server to play on and 50% r2gaming for not having a better server ( but no game gives coverage for the whole world on 1 server).


U can't said thats people not have a right server ... from begining we start, the game directed to select the server recommended and thats new server ... as beginers thats player did not know about that ... just click and play .... so I don't think that not fair to blame them even for 50% .... unless there is a previous explanation but there is no explanation at all .... then after play for long and patch 1,5 come out this lag thing happen so we must go to our server region and start over again wowwww so easy U say that but U don't see the real problem .... this not good thing .. and this not happen when patch 1,5 come out ....

[R228536]

for the lag/delay issue i place the full blame on the game. i own a gaming pc and i am a tech who works on computers for a living so i know what a good and fast pc is and thats what i have. the lag thing didnt start until they started with the big patch and the merging of servers. i play on 4 servers and all but 2 are in different regions and they all run the same way.
i also highly doubt that very many are really getting delays mistaken for lag too. when i am losing frames and its hard for me to move i know its lag. as for delays... i really dont mind the pause at the beginning of most fights in gbs as i know its not going to cause me to have any lower of an ability to play.
as for clothing i must say that it is a huge bummer to play games that give an advantage that you can buy. and it isnt needed for them to make a profit. plenty of games make money with clothing items that dont give stats just fine. its the need to separate yourself from others by being able to customize your look. my fav game (LoL) is free to play and yes you can pay for stuff but in no way can you buy an advantage over non cashers.
ive been playing since server 5 and honestly i dont see myself playing for much longer. they keep adding new content, merging servers, changing gameplay, and mass producing new servers and all without ever fixing bugs both old and new (arena start button for example) that came with the updates. this game is becoming unbalanced and i find it hard to enjoy playing without something seeming unfair. thats my 2 cents...

[R24907107]

My instincts tell me that your not very high level maybe?? As anyone who has reached 60+ would know that archers are unarguably the absolute worst class in PvP(Spending amounts being equal ofc). Knights are extremely good in PvP but suck real bad in PvE so when you say that knights are a step behind "everything" you are wrong. Knights are not needed(in PvE) true but as a said with the spire coming its gonna change. Oh and block got nerfed yes but block was just "one" of the reasons as to why knights were scary in PvP... the other reasons are their tenacity, HP and their extremely powerful one target skills. So knight's block nerf has not "really" affected them that badly(except against mages). So in conclusion although knights dont get a fair share of the tasty WB cake they compensate for that in PvP.... the trend is like this.....
In my Opinion..
Knights -> Sux in PvE(spire being the only place where they are needed), great in PvP.
Archers -> Terrific in PvE(Except in spire), suck in PvP.
Mages -> Great everywhere

Now, I'm trying to figure out how you figure a Knight is compensated in PvP for his obvious deficit in WB? Nowhere do I see where you can gain 100,000s of gold or Daru in PvP? Gold equals upgrading your guild skills, Daru equals upgrading your troops abilities. Explain how ANY PvP compensates for not being able to get hundreds of thousands of both each day that other classes get - mainly Archers??