Why did they change the event quests?

[KenshÃn©]

Nothing to see here.

[WeedFarmer]

that the R2 plan for

[Daehawk]

DaeHawk is a thief himself n he knows it! he shares his seeds coz he has big spenders already reimbursing him for his losses! gratz for that hawk! but condoning the theft is just u saying i should let u rob my farm n keep u as a friend! u make me laugh! so he gets 200 spirits a day (because ppl let him ( and i doubt this) and loses 54! good deal for him! i believe he actually camps farms n is one of the thieving idiots we talking about!

I lose 0 daily as I have stated, poor misguided troll soul that doesn't know how to read what I state. You must not be friends with any cashers or have a really up tight server that everyone only has greed on their minds and don't share when they don't need it.

Thing is you never know who stalks your farm, that's the problem, so the only option you have is to remove the whole friendlist whilst doing this event, otherwise there's no chance you'll get anywhere near the 2000 mark

For example this has happened to few people now

1s seed matures, as soon as you click collect you get 9...
either that or they die straight away.. but I think that's a glitch.. Either way.. Yes, on some servers the number of stealing idiots is high, and of course, as you said yourself you've harvested other people crops, assuming that you've placed the maths from your own experience would mean no one steals from you so obviously all that makes sense, but you're one of the 1%... whilst everyone else isn't so lucky.

Not really, as I stated my friends list is full of alliance members only and inactives that haven't played in months that had level 30+ farm with 9 dead plants in each. Unless you don't know your guildies then you know who would stalk your farm, but also guildies won't typically stalk each others farm if they are online.

Check your Growth Record to see who's 1s you, it will show up there as well. Also Weeds/Pests on your crops will decrease the amount gained if left on when they pop. Yes there are guildies that bought the mount on day 2 with balens and stated that any guild member can grab their spirits when they see them as they don't need them anymore. Sharing among guildies when you don't need anymore just makes the guild stronger as a whole. No need for greed inside of one's own guild. Could be one of the 1% or just play on a good community server perhaps. Each server has it's own type of people, no two people are the same. One of my other servers there is a guild rule that if you steal seeds from a guildie without permission you are removed from the guild.

[BrixunMortar]

u do know i grow 14 spirits on a plant n after 3 times i get robbed i down to ten spirits yet everyone only got one spirit each don't u u noob! do ur maths man! lost 4 and 3 ppl gained 1 that makes a loss overall so how are u helping each other?

[BrixunMortar]

DaeHawk is a thief himself n he knows it! he shares his seeds coz he has big spenders already reimbursing him for his losses! gratz for that hawk! but condoning the theft is just u saying i should let u rob my farm n keep u as a friend! u make me laugh! so he gets 200 spirits a day (because ppl let him ( and i doubt this) and loses 54! good deal for him! i believe he actually camps farms n is one of the thieving idiots we talking about!

[KenshÃn©]

Perhaps you should remove those people if they are stalking your farm if they are known farm stalkers. I haven't had anyone steal any of mine on multiple servers. But I make sure I am online when they are going to pop and only place them for times when I know I will be around for. That way I can be sure to get them when they pop. Have had 0 people steal from me. But my friends list is mainly guildies or inactives that don't play anymore that I use to revive their long dead crops for farm xp.

I currently have 1267 Spirits with 0 Bought and we just started week 2 of the events, yes I have been harvesting friends that are guildies. But it's the ones that have given permission for theirs to be farmed since they bought the mount on day 2.

Thing is you never know who stalks your farm, that's the problem, so the only option you have is to remove the whole friendlist whilst doing this event, otherwise there's no chance you'll get anywhere near the 2000 mark

For example this has happened to few people now

1s seed matures, as soon as you click collect you get 9...
either that or they die straight away.. but I think that's a glitch.. Either way.. Yes, on some servers the number of stealing idiots is high, and of course, as you said yourself you've harvested other people crops, assuming that you've placed the maths from your own experience would mean no one steals from you so obviously all that makes sense, but you're one of the 1%... whilst everyone else isn't so lucky.

[Daehawk]

Sorry about that part, I went full retard over there, could you please re-read, I fixed up the whole subject.

Perhaps you should remove those people if they are stalking your farm if they are known farm stalkers. I haven't had anyone steal any of mine on multiple servers. But I make sure I am online when they are going to pop and only place them for times when I know I will be around for. That way I can be sure to get them when they pop. Have had 0 people steal from me. But my friends list is mainly guildies or inactives that don't play anymore that I use to revive their long dead crops for farm xp.

I currently have 1267 Spirits with 0 Bought and we just started week 2 of the events, yes I have been harvesting friends that are guildies. But it's the ones that have given permission for theirs to be farmed since they bought the mount on day 2.

[KenshÃn©]

Things got changed? My calendar is set up for the CURRENT quests, so no it's not based on any changes. That is the current quest list and how many you get per day. The numbers in that post showing how many spirits you can get for the event is also correct.

Last I counted 2,128 Spirits is greater than the 2,000 Spirits needed for the mount. And all the quests I put on the calendar and are in the calculations are from Free Quests.

Sorry about that part, I went full retard over there, could you please re-read, I fixed up the whole subject.

[Daehawk]

CLEARLY you forgot something.

1. The events got changed.
2. You only were able to get seeds from mounts and arena the first week. which is 10 seeds max a day.
3. No if you don't spend 120+ balen a day on reseting the market you'll only get 5 seeds a day
4. Next week you'll only get 5 seeds a day because there will be only 1 event giving seeds.

In conclusion you're forced to spend balen and a lot of it if you want to get the mount.

Things got changed? My calendar is set up for the CURRENT quests, so no it's not based on any changes. That is the current quest list and how many you get per day. The numbers in that post showing how many spirits you can get for the event is also correct.

Last I counted 2,128 Spirits is greater than the 2,000 Spirits needed for the mount. And all the quests I put on the calendar and are in the calculations are from Free Quests.

[KenshÃn©]

Hero's Call = 35 Seeds, Mount Trainer = 40 Seeds, Rule The Battleground = 21, Warrior's Training = 16 Dungeon Slayer = 40
Total Seeds: 152.

Farm level 1-3 13 Seeds per: 1,976 Spirits without stealing = 2 Clothing or steal 24 Spirits from farm friends for mount.
Farm level 4-6 14 Seeds per: 2,128 Spirits without stealing = 2 clothing or Mount
Farm level 7-X 15 Seeds per: 2,280 Spirits without Stealing = 2 clothing or Mount. Steal 120 for One of each clothing.

I think there's enough to go around where everyone can get the mount free without spending. And where players with level 1-3 farm(even though getting to 4 is pretty easy) can steal just 24 to make it.

It just depends on how much people over steal or how often you get stolen from.

CLEARLY you forgot something.

You're giving the best case scenario where you'll be on when no one else on your friend list will be, in which case, delete your friendlist.. well should have done that at the start of the event.

Edit: explanation there's only 20% of chance getting your full ancients because typically people look through their friends farms to see who's close to finishing, so averaging out the fact you get 11 ancients a day (assuming that you're stealing to and at lvl 1 - 3) these would be the calculations

1 - 3 = 1672 (avg 11)

4 - 6 = 1824 (avg 12)

7 + = 1976 (avg 13)

These are with the assumptions that you steal to.

[winlord]

1) Getting to level 40 takes normally 10-14 days from server launch to hit as long as you do your daily activities. Those that are staying below 40 to farm 30-39 don't need the mount. The mount should be available again in 1.6 in one of the new features shops for 1.6. So those on newer servers or those that are just wasting time in 30-39 bracket can buy it when 1.6 is out.
2) If you have level 4-6 farm you can lose 128 and still get the mount without stealing or just being in the hole 128 from the ratio of what you've lost from steals and what you've stolen back. I've had 0 stolen from me while I have acquired around 200+ from players that want theirs stolen. Why do they want theirs stolen? Because they bought the mount on day 2 of the event and their crops are available to anyone that wants spirits.

Correct, pretty much any mount will be in this new kind of shop in newer versions.

[Daehawk]

ok. i understand your math but your forgetting 2 variables:

1) not everyone can do every single event every day (for that matter those sub 40 cant even do the mount quest)
2)ur not the only one stealing, there are many hawks in the game that go around just waiting for farms to be ready. I think so far ive lost some 100-200 ancient spirits from that. A lot more than what ive stolen since i dont go ahead and hawk someones farm-too much of a pain

1) Getting to level 40 takes normally 10-14 days from server launch to hit as long as you do your daily activities. Those that are staying below 40 to farm 30-39 don't need the mount. The mount should be available again in 1.6 in one of the new features shops for 1.6. So those on newer servers or those that are just wasting time in 30-39 bracket can buy it when 1.6 is out.
2) If you have level 4-6 farm you can lose 128 and still get the mount without stealing or just being in the hole 128 from the ratio of what you've lost from steals and what you've stolen back. I've had 0 stolen from me while I have acquired around 200+ from players that want theirs stolen. Why do they want theirs stolen? Because they bought the mount on day 2 of the event and their crops are available to anyone that wants spirits.

[Morgano]

This time they have gone overboard, first the server shuts down to where we can't get arena duels in and don't get the 5 seeds for the 20 duels, then they change the quest for getting the seeds. All they wanted to do here was to make people have to spend money to get the mount. This is ridiculous, this is why people will stop playing the game and go to another game where at least the quest isn't changed in the middle to make things harder to get and the only why to get it is to spend cash. I love the game but I'm not going to spend the money to get a quest done that could have been done by simply doing what the original quest was meant for THE MOUNT. I can go elsewhere and have less problems. R2 better changge it back or they will be losing lots of players.

[BrixunMortar]

you can get mount training whips from guild battles....

IF u are in top teams on server! that still leaves the mystery shop tho huh! that cannot be done for free! and as has already been mention that the downtime and crops stolen add up, and at 89 balen for a box of 10 spirits makes this mount stupidly overpriced like everything else from R2

[R23209055]

Hero's Call = 35 Seeds, Mount Trainer = 40 Seeds, Rule The Battleground = 21, Warrior's Training = 16 Dungeon Slayer = 40
Total Seeds: 152.

Farm level 1-3 13 Seeds per: 1,976 Spirits without stealing = 2 Clothing or steal 24 Spirits from farm friends for mount.
Farm level 4-6 14 Seeds per: 2,128 Spirits without stealing = 2 clothing or Mount
Farm level 7-X 15 Seeds per: 2,280 Spirits without Stealing = 2 clothing or Mount. Steal 120 for One of each clothing.

I think there's enough to go around where everyone can get the mount free without spending. And where players with level 1-3 farm(even though getting to 4 is pretty easy) can steal just 24 to make it.

It just depends on how much people over steal or how often you get stolen from.

ok. i understand your math but your forgetting 2 variables:

1) not everyone can do every single event every day (for that matter those sub 40 cant even do the mount quest)
2)ur not the only one stealing, there are many hawks in the game that go around just waiting for farms to be ready. I think so far ive lost some 100-200 ancient spirits from that. A lot more than what ive stolen since i dont go ahead and hawk someones farm-too much of a pain