VIP Wheel

[magglord]

when are you going to run a honest vip wheel because the one you have now is about a crooked as vegas .Been playing now for 3 straight months on different servers and have never talked so someone that has won a lvl 6 or 7 gem.Do you seriously think we are that stupid that we don't talk to each other or really don't give a ****

[bleedingxorange]

And did you read whole thread? Bleedingxorange wrote on one of previous pages, that rewards from vip wheel are free, because vip tokens are free. I just said that it is not true, because you need to pay for vip to spin the wheel.

So he said it is free, I said I have different opinion. And I'd really appreciate if you don't say that I wrote something I didn't (and read the whole thread). And if you still think that I said anything you think I did, please quote me.

This is where you make the mistake. What I said, is you exchange Tokens for items on the wheel. 1 token = 1 item, yes or no? the tokens you obtain to use on the wheel you get for free, no money spent. Yes, you can not use the wheel without having VIP but you also cant use the wheel without tokens. 0 tokens = 0 rewards. And as stated idk how many times already it is possible to get 1-hour VIP without paying for it meaning you could save you 500+ tokens use your 1-hour VIP and use ALL the tokens on the wheel without paying a dime. Again, when you are VIP you gain the benefit of using the wheel nothing more nothing less. This whole thread is debating if you can get lvl 6-7 gems, the OP clearly was not happy with the 580k gold + 5 skel. keys every 3 days.

Also, as stated there is a thread at the top of forum about the VIP Wheel and more than one person posted a screen shot of them getting a lvl 7 gem so no it is not impossible, it is rare.

[miQQQs]

I think we going Nowhere so end this conversation here... Hehe .cya

[lareth]

And what you think, why vip wheel name is vip wheel? Becouse you can use it when you are vip - for free, but if you not - you must buy vip.
Again, you talk about one of vip status benefits , so from where idea about free something?

And did you read whole thread? Bleedingxorange wrote on one of previous pages, that rewards from vip wheel are free, because vip tokens are free. I just said that it is not true, because you need to pay for vip to spin the wheel.

So he said it is free, I said I have different opinion. And I'd really appreciate if you don't say that I wrote something I didn't (and read the whole thread). And if you still think that I said anything you think I did, please quote me.

[BrixunMortar]

does that mean that the state lottery is crooked too cos I have never won that in the last 3 months as well

the level 6-7 gems are made to be rare, its why players are not getting them as much as they think they should

L6 n 7 gems don't exist on the wheel kit n u know it

[miQQQs]

1. I never said that.
2. I never said that either, I just agreed that you can get them for free - everyone of us gets them everyday as arena rewards for example.
3. My point (one and only point) was that vip wheel is not free (because you need to pay for a vip to use it). And yes, I am 100% right.

We were not discussing if vip wheel should be free, we were arguing if vip wheel is free or not. What else you did not understand?

And what you think, why vip wheel name is vip wheel? Becouse you can use it when you are vip - for free, but if you not - you must buy vip.
Again, you talk about one of vip status benefits , so from where idea about free something?

[lareth]

If you say vip tokens shuld be useful without vip - look at name.
If you say vip status dont give vip tokens - look at my post.
If you stil think you have right in your points, sorry but talk with u is waste of my time.
I agree for that, gems on vip whel have 0.00001% chance, but for me 500k+ gold and 5sk and few other things is a good profit evry 2-3 days

1. I never said that.
2. I never said that either, I just agreed that you can get them for free - everyone of us gets them everyday as arena rewards for example.
3. My point (one and only point) was that vip wheel is not free (because you need to pay for a vip to use it). And yes, I am 100% right.

We were not discussing if vip wheel should be free, we were arguing if vip wheel is free or not. What else you did not understand?

[R25624971]

Hmm... I have many tokens, but I cannot spin the wheel. Maybe because I'm not VIP. So if I want to use my free tokens I need to pay. So is wheel free or not? Your arguments are more than strange...

some"rare"times r2 make event for free vip card for 2 hours (or 1 hours) just keep ur wartune on

[miQQQs]

I think we have some misunderstanding here

If you say vip tokens shuld be useful without vip - look at name.
If you say vip status dont give vip tokens - look at my post.
If you stil think you have right in your points, sorry but talk with u is waste of my time.
I agree for that, gems on vip whel have 0.00001% chance, but for me 500k+ gold and 5sk and few other things is a good profit evry 2-3 days

[lareth]

Maybe you dont know, becouse you are not vip, but every day you get 10 vip tokens from vip quest and each week from vip weekly gift pack - so yeah, you get from vip status tokens and spining...
Like vip tokens name say, you can use it when you are vip...
So you still need learn understanding what you read before answer.

I think we have some misunderstanding here

But it's not as if you get NOTHING from the VIP wheel.
580k gold + 5 skeleton keys is pretty good.

I wouldn't say no to that...

[miQQQs]

If you pay for benefit of spinnig the wheel, you pay for your rewards as well. What is that you don't understand here? And free tokens don't make it free - I have them and I can't use them to get any rewards. You need one thing that is free, and one you have to pay for - with tokens alone you cannot get any rewards. With vip alone, you cannot get any rewards as well. You need them both, which means, you have to pay. And if I have to pay for half of something, it still cost me money. I really don't understand how anyone could argue with that...

Of course with free vip you don't pay for it, but it is still a vip that you get as a sample. If I get a sample of a yoghurt, it doesn't make every yoghurt free.

And I think OP did not cry that he doesn't get gem every 3 days, he just started to doubt that you can actually get one, because he newer saw anyone getting one. And if actuall chance of getting lvl 7 gem is 0, that is false advertisement. I doubt it is 0 though.

Maybe you dont know, becouse you are not vip, but every day you get 10 vip tokens from vip quest and each week from vip weekly gift pack - so yeah, you get from vip status tokens and spining...
Like vip tokens name say, you can use it when you are vip...
So you still need learn understanding what you read before answer.

[CondorHero]

Sure, you pay for the benefit of getting rewards from the VIP wheel.

But it's not as if you get NOTHING from the VIP wheel.
580k gold + 5 skeleton keys is pretty good.

[lareth]

Are you sure you can read? Let me re-quote myself AGAIN ill even put it in BOLD FOR YOU. "you pay for the benefit to SPIN the wheel with Tokens that you obtain for free." <--- THAT is what I said, so go ahead and re-read your response to me, then read that and try again. When you buy VIP you get several benefits, but with the wheel you get 0 items without tokens, you exchange tokens for items. It is 100% percent relevant, as this entire thread is about items FROM the VIP wheel, if you were able to do a daily spin of the VIP wheel without ANY tokens then yes you would be paying for it, but as other have stated you could get 1-hour VIP tickets and people who never spent 1 penny on this game can spin the wheel without paying for VIP. So your whole logic is pretty flawed. The bottom line, is even if you dont get lvl 6-7 gems, you can still get 500k gold + 5 skel keys and other stuff if you pick the wheel right the fact that is not enough for people to get every 3 days is beyond ridiculous.

That would be like me going out buying a scratch off ticket and after not winning the jackpot raging out on a forum about it. The chance to win the jackpot is extremely low, it doesnt mean you cant get it, it means it is hard. The person who i responded too thinks he should be getting lvl 6-7 gems every 3 days.

If you pay for benefit of spinnig the wheel, you pay for your rewards as well. What is that you don't understand here? And free tokens don't make it free - I have them and I can't use them to get any rewards. You need one thing that is free, and one you have to pay for - with tokens alone you cannot get any rewards. With vip alone, you cannot get any rewards as well. You need them both, which means, you have to pay. And if I have to pay for half of something, it still cost me money. I really don't understand how anyone could argue with that...

Of course with free vip you don't pay for it, but it is still a vip that you get as a sample. If I get a sample of a yoghurt, it doesn't make every yoghurt free.

And I think OP did not cry that he doesn't get gem every 3 days, he just started to doubt that you can actually get one, because he newer saw anyone getting one. And if actuall chance of getting lvl 7 gem is 0, that is false advertisement. I doubt it is 0 though.

[R29998503]

Are you sure you can read?

This is like a glass half full/half empty argument.

I agree with them. I see it as something that (usually) comes only after you pay. I can see your point of view too. But lareth's "logic" isn't flawed. It's just how you look at it.

[bleedingxorange]

Actually, I can read perfectly. You are arguing the guy who said that he paid for the vip wheel. And he did pay to use it. The fact that vip tokens are free is irrelevant, so is the fact that everyone gets a free vip for one hour.
To use the vip wheel you need to be vip, so you are paying real money for it. What free tokens have to do with it?

And you said that vip is not important, because you have to use free tokens to get the rewards, so rewards are free. I just simply said that you cannot get the rewards with free tokens without paying for vip, so you pay for rewards. Who is right, and why it's not only you?

I'm not trying to say that vip wheel is somehow cheating, I understand that the chances for good items are slim, and should be. There is no proof that you cannot get them, and that would be a scam if you couldn't.

Are you sure you can read? Let me re-quote myself AGAIN ill even put it in BOLD FOR YOU. "you pay for the benefit to SPIN the wheel with Tokens that you obtain for free." <--- THAT is what I said, so go ahead and re-read your response to me, then read that and try again. When you buy VIP you get several benefits, but with the wheel you get 0 items without tokens, you exchange tokens for items. It is 100% percent relevant, as this entire thread is about items FROM the VIP wheel, if you were able to do a daily spin of the VIP wheel without ANY tokens then yes you would be paying for it, but as other have stated you could get 1-hour VIP tickets and people who never spent 1 penny on this game can spin the wheel without paying for VIP. So your whole logic is pretty flawed. The bottom line, is even if you dont get lvl 6-7 gems, you can still get 500k gold + 5 skel keys and other stuff if you pick the wheel right the fact that is not enough for people to get every 3 days is beyond ridiculous.

That would be like me going out buying a scratch off ticket and after not winning the jackpot raging out on a forum about it. The chance to win the jackpot is extremely low, it doesnt mean you cant get it, it means it is hard. The person who i responded too thinks he should be getting lvl 6-7 gems every 3 days.