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  • Sykinic
    started a topic VIP cards

    VIP cards

    If possible we should have more free VIP cards (the ones that last for 2 hours or so) for non-VIP players. I get a lot of VIP tokens but I can't use them since there has not been any free VIP card events for a long time. Nowadays the only way the tokens can be used is if you become VIP, but I think there should be at least some chance for non-VIP players to at least experience VIP and use the VIP wheel too. It's a waste to a non-VIP player getting VIP tokens in arena duels, solo campaign dungeons, multiplayer dungeons, and other things since they cannot use them. Essentially speaking non-VIP players get it rough as it is (full honor loss in battlegrounds, less experience, less everything), so at least give something to players that don't have a lot of money or can't pay for VIP. Bring back the free VIP cards. Thanks

  • Billy_McF
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    Originally posted by Sykinic View Post
    Haha no problem. I never get to argue a lot anymore either. You are quite the debater. I give you props.
    Well if you ever feel the urge just holler, I am sure we can have more lively discussion's in the future.

    They are so much more enjoyable than boring agree with everything posts LOL

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  • Sykinic
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    Haha no problem. I never get to argue a lot anymore either. You are quite the debater. I give you props.

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  • Billy_McF
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    It's been a while since I had a good old, heartfelt disagreement in the forums about something.
    So I thank you for that, but that has been remedied now and I have said all I am going to on this matter.

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  • Sykinic
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    Originally posted by Billy_McF View Post
    Your quite right I have lagged at some points in the game.

    Let's see
    MP dungeons
    Guild Battles
    Guild Alter
    Spire

    Mostly lag occurs when in a multi player part of the game. I am not suggesting it doesn't happen in other areas, but I have NEVER experienced lag while using the VIP wheel, so the maths is correct.
    I would still be skeptical in this arguement...

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  • Billy_McF
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    Originally posted by Sykinic View Post
    Math is wrong because of the lag issues in the game. Sorry you can't read. You have lagged at some point and I know you have. Don't give me that bull. I am sure that lag would affect spin time and other issues would affect the way the wheel is used.
    Your quite right I have lagged at some points in the game.

    Let's see
    MP dungeons
    Guild Battles
    Guild Alter
    Spire

    Mostly lag occurs when in a multi player part of the game. I am not suggesting it doesn't happen in other areas, but I have NEVER experienced lag while using the VIP wheel, so the maths is correct.

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  • Sykinic
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    Math is wrong because of the lag issues in the game. Sorry you can't read. You have lagged at some point and I know you have. Don't give me that bull. I am sure that lag would affect spin time and other issues would affect the way the wheel is used.

    Ahh but again you are nitpicking things I say and not the entire paragraph. Please read the entire post before replying to me.

    You are not just picking things you do not like from what I say and being biased about it.

    Ahh and those login and VIP events that give VIP TOKENS? Definitely don't help non-VIP.
    Last edited by Sykinic; 06-12-2013, 05:47 PM.

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  • Billy_McF
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    Originally posted by Sykinic View Post
    Your idea is flawed on so many ways and the math is wrong.

    "VIP events" and things that benefit a VIP player in the future like logins and other things. So you can stop ranting in my thread about wanting more for VIP.
    Maths as follow.

    1 minute per spin using 36 tokens for full spin.
    60 minutes in an hour = 60 spins
    60 spins x 36 tokens = 2160 tokens

    Maths is correct, and I have never ever lagged on the vip wheel so don't come with that line LOL>

    VIP events and login what do they give. Ah yes the elusive VIP TOKEN.

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  • Sykinic
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    Originally posted by Billy_McF View Post
    And there's your downfall.

    VIP does not give such a massive advantage. You can't buy shop mounts, chest for quest mounts, clothes, wings, gems or even honor scrolls with VIP. That honor falls to the humble balen.

    I have said for months that the advantage that "Balens" give, is too big and should be reduced. But the advantage of VIP has very little to do with that advantage.
    If you think it does not then why don't you stop playing with VIP for two months? The advantage is in the way you play, not the way you spend. Of course there is an advantage to the way you spend too, that's why I suggested the free VIP card.
    Last edited by Sykinic; 06-12-2013, 05:48 PM.

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  • Billy_McF
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    Originally posted by Sykinic View Post
    I The pay-to-win idea could be reduced with the free VIP card idea...
    And there's your downfall.

    VIP does not give such a massive advantage. You can't buy shop mounts, chest for quest mounts, clothes, wings, gems or even honor scrolls with VIP. That honor falls to the humble balen.

    I have said for months that the advantage that "Balens" give, is too big and should be reduced. But the advantage of VIP has very little to do with that advantage.

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  • Sykinic
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    You are just suggesting more ways to pay-to-win. And no people lag in the game so they would not get as much time as you suggest. Your idea is flawed on so many ways and the math is wrong. This game does not need anymore pay-to-win ideas like you want to suggest to all players. Apparently you've adjusted to the pay-to-win way of gaming and that is why your system works the way you want it.

    It is a free play rant now, but the idea still sticks that free VIP cards are not a bad thing. You are suggesting they are which is wrong. To say VIP need more is fine, but it should not be given from things that are suggested to help free players. I am sure you will get more "VIP events" and things that benefit a VIP player in the future like logins and other things. So you can stop ranting in my thread about wanting more for VIP. I like your ideas on helping free players, but I am disgusted that you want to add more to the VIP players.
    Last edited by Sykinic; 06-12-2013, 05:37 PM.

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  • Billy_McF
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    Originally posted by Sykinic View Post
    I am saying the hour is a pitance. You only suggested an hour. I am not suggesting the wheel is a pitance. That is your own words. And in that one hour you want 2x the amount??!! Wow... that is greedy
    The hour is not a pittance, it is a massive amount of time to use the VIP wheel, as it only takes seconds to complete a full spin of 36 tokens. Even if it takes 1min to complete a spin, in that hour per month you would need 2160 tokens to fully utilise it. I am sure that there are no players that get 2160 tokens per month, every month.
    As such, an hour would indeed be enough time to fully utilise the tokens as you suggested in your opening post.

    Greedy don't make me laugh, you want to use something for free that others have to pay for. That's greed. I suggested a way to allow free players to utilise the tokens while vip players keep the privilege that they pay for.


    YOUR OPENING POST WANTED A WAY FOR FREE PLAYERS TO UTILISE VIP TOKENS.

    I gave you that, but that wasn't good enough for you.

    You have turned this thread into a cash vs free play rant, so continue but without my participation.

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  • Sykinic
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    Originally posted by Billy_McF View Post
    GO BACK AND READ WHAT I POSTED.

    But I am glad that you have just confirmed that normal vip wheel rewards are a pittance. YOUR OWN WORDS.
    If vip tokens only gain a pittance then what is the basis of your whole post?
    I am saying the hour is a pitance. You only suggested an hour. I am not suggesting the wheel is a pitance. That is your own words. And in that one hour you want 2x the amount??!! Wow... that is greedy. Of course what I am suggesting is also greedy for free players. But when have free players ever been given consideration like I've been talking about in the past couple of posts? In the end this goes back to my first posts which stated that there is no consideration for free players or non-VIP. If they were considered more then you would not see as many "cash monsters" I'm sure. The pay-to-win idea could be reduced with the free VIP card idea...
    Last edited by Sykinic; 06-12-2013, 05:30 PM.

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  • Billy_McF
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    Originally posted by Sykinic View Post
    They are not leaving the system... they are leaving the game. Did you think about that?
    You really can't read, sorry didn't realise that. Accept my apologies as you obviously can't comprehend a few words put into a sentence.

    "VIP system" is not the reason free players are leaving.

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  • Billy_McF
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    Originally posted by Sykinic View Post
    "All" types of players is not what you suggested. What you suggested is an increase in VIP players rewards and a pitance hour for free players. You are looking for more rewards for VIP players and not the rest.
    GO BACK AND READ WHAT I POSTED.

    But I am glad that you have just confirmed that normal vip wheel rewards are a pittance. YOUR OWN WORDS.
    If vip tokens only gain a pittance then what is the basis of your whole post?

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