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  • Robert666
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    Any Guidde About Archer Non Cahser

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  • miQQQs
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    Originally posted by anichaos View Post
    Well, as said, it's completely random in Refine.

    80% of the times you will get Charisma in your Refine.

    So you need to have a large amount of Refine Crystals if you want to aim for no Charisma or other undesired Refines.


    That why I said to just get the stat that's helpful to you, because you can't get exactly the perfect stats without balen or a whole bunch of refine crystals.



    I only wrote Charisma as recommened because I only have 5000 P/M DEF, so I actually need my Troops to block attacks for me. (which is similar to OP's def)

    I can crit pretty well already with 2000 crits at lv.54

    Well, on my 55 set, I only have 2 equip with Charisma on it.
    I dont use balens in rafine 8x crit str patk, 5x def and mdef, 3x pdef and endu
    But if i must choice, crit + blok stat, stil is better then charisma without crit
    Just blitz daily 100 stamina in b...something grave and get 20+ rafi crystals

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  • anichaos
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    Well, as said, it's completely random in Refine.

    80% of the times you will get Charisma in your Refine.

    So you need to have a large amount of Refine Crystals if you want to aim for no Charisma or other undesired Refines.


    That why I said to just get the stat that's helpful to you, because you can't get exactly the perfect stats without balen or a whole bunch of refine crystals.



    I only wrote Charisma as recommened because I only have 5000 P/M DEF, so I actually need my Troops to block attacks for me. (which is similar to OP's def)

    I can crit pretty well already with 2000 crits at lv.54

    Well, on my 55 set, I only have 2 equip with Charisma on it.
    Last edited by anichaos; 07-10-2013, 11:21 AM.

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  • miQQQs
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    Originally posted by anichaos View Post
    Depends on the player's living region.

    Who know's,
    the OP might be living in an Asian Country, where you get 1 Video a week, LOL (unless you use Proxy, but it'll lag you even more than it already does)


    (lv.54 non-cash archer)
    (gonna level to 55 soon, finally finished adding my Talents to lv.14)
    (55 set is fully enchanted too)

    BTW, I have 2050 crit rate, only because I am using lv.4 (going into lv.5) Holy Sniper Edge and my Refines actually have some Crits in it, mostly because I don't have Balens to "lock refines" so all stats I get are completely random, I just get whatever it's best.

    Like my Helm adds HP, Crit, PATK, Endu, Charisma
    While my Chest adds HP, PATK, STR, PDEF, Charisma

    5 of my equip have Charisma, 4 of my equp have Crit on it.
    1 of my equip have Block, LOL
    (don't want to refine further because the one with Block have PATK lv.9 and STR lv.10)





    BR is only useful if you're level 65+ in Class War (and that's if you can make it to Top 3)
    As a non-casher, you'll barely make it to Top 100, LOL

    So there's no need to worry about BR in the first place, just get the stats that's helpful to you.
    You have 100 more charisma...great but you lose with this 500+ crit.
    I have 3200 crit without gems - only gear stats and v5 holy astral. And still this is to low for archer - when upgrade astro to v6 and get IC medal, i think my crit will be ~4300 and should be good at lastFor wb when i swich gems - 5k.
    Again,archer dont need charisma - we need crazy crit stat for good crit rate.without that our dmg is to low for pvp fights

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  • anichaos
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    Originally posted by Smoldering View Post
    Use free offers for double skill tree, and more.
    I'm a casher, but I make lot of balens from free offers…
    Depends on the player's living region.

    Who know's,
    the OP might be living in an Asian Country, where you get 1 Video a week, LOL (unless you use Proxy, but it'll lag you even more than it already does)


    (lv.54 non-cash archer)
    (gonna level to 55 soon, finally finished adding my Talents to lv.14)
    (55 set is fully enchanted too)

    BTW, I have 2050 crit rate, only because I am using lv.4 (going into lv.5) Holy Sniper Edge and my Refines actually have some Crits in it, mostly because I don't have Balens to "lock refines" so all stats I get are completely random, I just get whatever it's best.

    Like my Helm adds HP, Crit, PATK, Endu, Charisma
    While my Chest adds HP, PATK, STR, PDEF, Charisma

    5 of my equip have Charisma, 4 of my equp have Crit on it.
    1 of my equip have Block, LOL
    (don't want to refine further because the one with Block have PATK lv.9 and STR lv.10)





    BR is only useful if you're level 65+ in Class War (and that's if you can make it to Top 3)
    As a non-casher, you'll barely make it to Top 100, LOL

    So there's no need to worry about BR in the first place, just get the stats that's helpful to you.

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  • Smoldering
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    Use free offers for double skill tree, and more.
    I'm a casher, but I make lot of balens from free offers…

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  • menying
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    Originally posted by bakuryuuha View Post
    An archer with high matk will have higher BR than other archers but will still lose cause matk doesn't help them do more dmg to their enemy...

    LOL idiot... of course... MATK is useless whatever its BR bring on it. USE BR appropriately bro...

    about troop count... much more troop is better... but it is about preference which will be used at lvl 52 non chaser archer... in any case, (PVE and PVP..coz non casher cannot balens of course)

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  • bakuryuuha
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    Originally posted by menying View Post
    +> AstraL
    agree with other, floating is pure gambling... on Lvl 60, prefer to use Enhanced Goddes Blessing which is reduce damage received 3% per level for any type damage (Magical or physical)

    +> about Refine equip... I found that
    For ARCHER : crit stats (embedded on equip) have more BR rather than other, while Endurance, Block and Charisma give Less BR

    While for knight BLOCK Give more BR rather than Crit, and charisma.


    so U should prefer your equip stat: STRENGTH, PATK, CRIT, DEF/ARMOR....n Pdef or Mdef. Thats what i knew so far
    BR is useless to high lvl players. A player with 50k BR can win a player with 60k BR if the 60k BR player had raise stats that are useless for their char just to increase their BR. An archer with high matk will have higher BR than other archers but will still lose cause matk doesn't help them do more dmg to their enemy...

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  • bakuryuuha
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    Originally posted by AnataOFAkku View Post
    Let me ask, how much crit you have without rafine crit stat?
    In order to have consistent crits, you need at least 5k crit value. Any lower than that, your crits are barely there so I doubt he has enough crits without the crit stats. Plus having more troops doesn't help you much since low lvl equipment doesn't give u much charisma. At best all 8 items added together gives u only 100+ more troops which at best gives u 2k+ more troop hp. A mage will easily clear that out and burn u if you don't get more crits in. The only thing you need from troops is high lvl enlightment with the patk stats. Having at least 1.2k troops is enough for you to clear lvl 100 cata (if you have high enough patk and hp and mdef) and most solo dungeons which you can easily get if you add a few lvls to the charisma guild skill. It will also allow your troops to tank wb if you raise ur tech for troop hp to the same as your hero level.

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  • menying
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    Originally posted by anichaos View Post

    Astral (top to bottom of importance)
    (red) Sniper Edge - increase Crit value/rate
    (red) Force - increase Physical Attack
    (orange) Determination - increase Crit Damage
    (red) Willpower - increase Magic Defense
    (red) Fortitude - increase Physical Defense
    (orange) Goddess Blessing - decrease all damage taken
    (orange) Illusion - chance to receive only 1 damage taken

    Other recommended Astrals (not in any order)
    (orange) Blessed Health - Good if you are going for a sort of more Def, less Atk type, heal is fixed
    (orange) Regeneration - Good if you are going more Atk, huge bursts can give you great heals
    (orange) Deflection - Sem-Good if you think the reflect damage can win you the day
    (red) Enshieldment - on par with Illusion unless you have Lord Divine Medallion, than this would be better
    (red) Brilliance - Good Health is always Good



    Refine (random green bonuses on Equipments)
    You want to try and aim for these
    Strength
    Physical Attack
    Defense/ Armor
    Endurance
    Charisma
    +> AstraL
    agree with other, floating is pure gambling... on Lvl 60, prefer to use Enhanced Goddes Blessing which is reduce damage received 3% per level for any type damage (Magical or physical)

    +> about Refine equip... I found that
    For ARCHER : crit stats (embedded on equip) have more BR rather than other, while Endurance, Block and Charisma give Less BR

    While for knight BLOCK Give more BR rather than Crit, and charisma.


    so U should prefer your equip stat: STRENGTH, PATK, CRIT, DEF/ARMOR....n Pdef or Mdef. Thats what i knew so far
    Last edited by menying; 07-10-2013, 03:22 AM.

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  • miQQQs
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    Originally posted by anichaos View Post
    I have purple lv.4 Ruthlessness... no Orange drops for me ;(

    I usually only use Ruthlessness (float damage) on World Bosses and Illusion for other tasks. (switches P/M def back and forth)



    BTW, Refine, I didn't add in Crit because you'll get most of them from Crit Astral already, so it's better to replace Refine's Crit with either Def, Endu, or Charisma.


    I usually win the fight because I have over 1000 Charisma, go Troops. (this is before level 65+ tho, after 65+ Troops survivability goes down as Players attacks goes up)



    Block is only good if you have "Lord Divine" Medallion, which for most non-casher... will take 6+ months, due to no DoubleHonor and you usually get wiped by Cashers Twinks.
    Let me ask, how much crit you have without rafine crit stat?

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  • anichaos
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    Float Damage is a Risk.
    Default damage is 90~110%
    a Lv.3 orange Ruthlessness adds 21%.
    That makes your damage range into 69~131%
    If you're lucky, you'll deal massive damage, but if you're unlucky, you'll deal tiny damage.

    IE:
    a 1,000 base damage
    900~1100 damage range
    21% = 690~1310 damage range
    In all, you'll either do 210 less damage or 210 more damage. (or somewhere in between)

    With huge crits and luck, you'll deal a lot of damage.
    IE: Delphic with 50,000 dmg, lucky on 21% = 65500 (15,500 more damage dealt)




    Well, if you actually get a Lv.10 Ruthlessness... LOL, it'll add 70% Float

    That's 20~180%

    Becomes either SUPER unlucky or SUPER lucky.

    If unlucky, you'll do 200 (out of 1000 base damage)
    If Lucky, you'll do 1800

    A Delphic with 50,000 would have this range - 10,000~90,000 (40,000 less/more damage)

    If Lucky, you can potentially one-shot anyone.
    Last edited by anichaos; 07-10-2013, 02:49 AM.

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  • kosprov
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    The floating damage is a pure gamble, and on average u would get nothing out of it. I fail to see the advantages of increasing ur max damage while lowering ur minimum damage. Unless there smth abt the floating damage am missing..

    PS : if my luck on wartune is any indicator, that astral would probably decrease my damage by 10% ~_~.

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  • Telstar
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    Anata, floating didnt do **** to me.

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  • anichaos
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    I have purple lv.4 Ruthlessness... no Orange drops for me ;(

    I usually only use Ruthlessness (float damage) on World Bosses and Illusion for other tasks. (switches P/M def back and forth)



    BTW, Refine, I didn't add in Crit because you'll get most of them from Crit Astral already, so it's better to replace Refine's Crit with either Def, Endu, or Charisma.


    I usually win the fight because I have over 1000 Charisma, go Troops. (this is before level 65+ tho, after 65+ Troops survivability goes down as Players attacks goes up)



    Block is only good if you have "Lord Divine" Medallion, which for most non-casher... will take 6+ months, due to no DoubleHonor and you usually get wiped by Cashers Twinks.
    Last edited by anichaos; 07-10-2013, 02:45 AM.

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