Hi all
We must join forces and make the auction house happend, im so tired off getting useless stuff and see the bound referens, cant let r2 s greed take over, the game is for players not r2, its we that suppose to have fun, people allready spend a lot off money here.
If we spam r2 G.M they must listen to us, i mean " happy wife happy life" .
Best regards Matilda
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Originally posted by R26757419 View PostI saw it on ********, and it seems pretty unlikely that it can be abused.
There a 20% fee on every sells, so u can't simply sell things infinite times. Quite the opposite.
Elusionm is just wrong, little selfish, but it's ok i guess. It's the point of view of a casher, which spend to win, and don't want to lose his advantage.
But the game doesn't only consist in adavantages of cashers vs non cashers in pvp. There's pve aswell in the game like necro, or spire, and every non casher could really use the boost of wings or some mount, or even the vip to speed up things. Cashers will always be ahead, but non cashers will enjoy the game more.
My example, I'm a non casher, wingless non vip etc etc... Lord Divine, and with the 60 gear full legended. Farming MD since forever, then turned to MD NM for stones, i've now almost 500 exceeding loids that i won't use (except if i choose to synth them). Reached necro 11, and spire 11 aswell, i really could use the boost that wings gives to me (62.5k br now) to eventually defeat another lvl of those challenges.
The auction hall would help me get the balens i need to buy something unavailable without real cash. And by doing so i would help a casher (hard little.. any kind of casher) in speed up his 60 gear project. R2 still earn money, but i'm happier and the buyer probably too.
Obviously, who buys things from me (non casher), won't reach ever end game, cause i sell exceeding stuffs that i don't need cause already got them.
I could eventually start farming lvl 70s loids (which i do need, and my account can do samsara), and choose to sell those, slowing down my progress in order to catch up on cash items, but the selling price of them is gonna be much higher compared to the 60 ones, and r2 will keep gaining always.
End game.. is so far away.. gems, enlightment lvl10, red astral lvl 10, spire final lvls, completing necro, soul engraving 80, max talents... there's really no worry there.. game isn't gonna end for now.
Always remember that even if they don't appear in the rankings, non casher are the majority of players always, if they are truly unhappy, they quit out of frustration, boredom, impossibility to compete etc etc..
Imho Auction hall could only improve the game. Because Casher will always be ahead, but non cashers over time and effort, can enojoy the game with all his features (cash items, vip, etc etc)
It's a win win, and probably prices will go down, and number of transactions increases.
Very descriptive indeed! I loved the way you explained it. Thank you
Makes more sense to me now btw
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Originally posted by CondorHero View PostTrading will accelerate us to end game faster.
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pls add auction lol, I am semi cashier and I am 24 hours player and its very pitty that cashiers can be 10 times stronger than you because of the cash (((( much people quited from this game really and much people are thinking to queet because when you see that you are best player than someone and only thing is because that weak player stronger than you its a cash (( so unfair ( auction will make ballance between cashiers and semi cashiers, G M pls add that auction at least lol everyone wants that, you will earn little less money yeah but you will make lot of people happy and at least you earned milions from people now give players to play without regreting and cursing that day when thay started to play watrune on your server, hope this post is not waste of time, thanks
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Originally posted by R26757419 View PostI saw it on ********, and it seems pretty unlikely that it can be abused.
There a 20% fee on every sells, so u can't simply sell things infinite times. Quite the opposite.
Elusionm is just wrong, little selfish, but it's ok i guess. It's the point of view of a casher, which spend to win, and don't want to lose his advantage.
But the game doesn't only consist in adavantages of cashers vs non cashers in pvp. There's pve aswell in the game like necro, or spire, and every non casher could really use the boost of wings or some mount, or even the vip to speed up things. Cashers will always be ahead, but non cashers will enjoy the game more.
My example, I'm a non casher, wingless non vip etc etc... Lord Divine, and with the 60 gear full legended. Farming MD since forever, then turned to MD NM for stones, i've now almost 500 exceeding loids that i won't use (except if i choose to synth them). Reached necro 11, and spire 11 aswell, i really could use the boost that wings gives to me (62.5k br now) to eventually defeat another lvl of those challenges.
The auction hall would help me get the balens i need to buy something unavailable without real cash. And by doing so i would help a casher (hard little.. any kind of casher) in speed up his 60 gear project. R2 still earn money, but i'm happier and the buyer probably too.
Obviously, who buys things from me (non casher), won't reach ever end game, cause i sell exceeding stuffs that i don't need cause already got them.
I could eventually start farming lvl 70s loids (which i do need, and my account can do samsara), and choose to sell those, slowing down my progress in order to catch up on cash items, but the selling price of them is gonna be much higher compared to the 60 ones, and r2 will keep gaining always.
End game.. is so far away.. gems, enlightment lvl10, red astral lvl 10, spire final lvls, completing necro, soul engraving 80, max talents... there's really no worry there.. game isn't gonna end for now.
Always remember that even if they don't appear in the rankings, non casher are the majority of players always, if they are truly unhappy, they quit out of frustration, boredom, impossibility to compete etc etc..
Imho Auction hall could only improve the game. Because Casher will always be ahead, but non cashers over time and effort, can enojoy the game with all his features (cash items, vip, etc etc)
It's a win win, and probably prices will go down, and number of transactions increases.
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I saw it on ********, and it seems pretty unlikely that it can be abused.
There a 20% fee on every sells, so u can't simply sell things infinite times. Quite the opposite.
Elusionm is just wrong, little selfish, but it's ok i guess. It's the point of view of a casher, which spend to win, and don't want to lose his advantage.
But the game doesn't only consist in adavantages of cashers vs non cashers in pvp. There's pve aswell in the game like necro, or spire, and every non casher could really use the boost of wings or some mount, or even the vip to speed up things. Cashers will always be ahead, but non cashers will enjoy the game more.
My example, I'm a non casher, wingless non vip etc etc... Lord Divine, and with the 60 gear full legended. Farming MD since forever, then turned to MD NM for stones, i've now almost 500 exceeding loids that i won't use (except if i choose to synth them). Reached necro 11, and spire 11 aswell, i really could use the boost that wings gives to me (62.5k br now) to eventually defeat another lvl of those challenges.
The auction hall would help me get the balens i need to buy something unavailable without real cash. And by doing so i would help a casher (hard little.. any kind of casher) in speed up his 60 gear project. R2 still earn money, but i'm happier and the buyer probably too.
Obviously, who buys things from me (non casher), won't reach ever end game, cause i sell exceeding stuffs that i don't need cause already got them.
I could eventually start farming lvl 70s loids (which i do need, and my account can do samsara), and choose to sell those, slowing down my progress in order to catch up on cash items, but the selling price of them is gonna be much higher compared to the 60 ones, and r2 will keep gaining always.
End game.. is so far away.. gems, enlightment lvl10, red astral lvl 10, spire final lvls, completing necro, soul engraving 80, max talents... there's really no worry there.. game isn't gonna end for now.
Always remember that even if they don't appear in the rankings, non casher are the majority of players always, if they are truly unhappy, they quit out of frustration, boredom, impossibility to compete etc etc..
Imho Auction hall could only improve the game. Because Casher will always be ahead, but non cashers over time and effort, can enojoy the game with all his features (cash items, vip, etc etc)
It's a win win, and probably prices will go down, and number of transactions increases.
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Originally posted by Clin7eas7wood View PostEven so thats up to the player also gonna give u example of successful AH blizzard and Diablo III.Company far more bigger than this one as long as they get their cut 10%-20% of actions they wont loose insted ppl will charge more balens to get things also all sort of cashers fro light to medium and hard.This is a must for every mmorpg.Would love to see it put and see you after that you will do what QQ rage quit cuz some ppl will get things you have? lol again act of selfishness and to point it out got 60 set leg and wont care if ppl get it by ah cuz it will improve them and alot more ppl will be able to do the mpd 60-70 there are so many benefits from it i can type you hours of that.
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Even so thats up to the player also gonna give u example of successful AH blizzard and Diablo III.Company far more bigger than this one as long as they get their cut 10%-20% of actions they wont loose insted ppl will charge more balens to get things also all sort of cashers fro light to medium and hard.This is a must for every mmorpg.Would love to see it put and see you after that you will do what QQ rage quit cuz some ppl will get things you have? lol again act of selfishness and to point it out got 60 set leg and wont care if ppl get it by ah cuz it will improve them and alot more ppl will be able to do the mpd 60-70 there are so many benefits from it i can type you hours of that.
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If they limited items u can buy per day like 20 items/day so there no 1 make alt for cheat,but am sure its will nerver happen lol
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Players will use alts to get extra Soul Crystals, players will sell Crypt keys for 50 balens, why? Cause it has to be cheaper than actual cash shop or no one will buy it.
I've played many games..
Difference between Wartune and those games, there is a lot more diversity between characters, so everyone having the same set didn't makea difference because there were a **** load of different methods you could use to seperate yourself from others.
But, fine, rather than just completely be against it, which I am...
Another alternative for Auction House to actually work... Would be to use Gold. Cashers will be able to sell Crypt keys (75 balens) for 500k gold or something. Non Cashers can easily buy everything quite easily and it would make the trading system work.
Balens just won't work because non cashers have to sell all the good stuff to cashers so they can buy their wings.. Gold on the other hand, everyone can get and as players get stronger, the prices will increase.
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Originally posted by ElusionM View PostOkay so here's some problems with Auction House.
Example 1
Player A sells unbound Crypt Key for 50 balens
Player B buys Unbound Crypt Key for 50 balens
So Player B can buy MUCH more Crypt Keys for his balens and earn more XP at Necro, since most won't bother with it now cause it's 3 keys for little reward, but if I was getting keys much cheaper, sure.
Example 2
Player A sells unbound Soul Crystal
Player B buys unbound Soul Crystal
Price? Maybe 1-5 balens each?
Player B with enough cash can reach maxed Soul Engraving, as it stands he cannot do that now.
Everyone is going to reach end game in a matter of no time. Especially since I can sell my useless loids to gather massive Soul Crystals, Mount Whips etc.
While the little guy who doesn't cash, is going to earn little in things he can sell, and end up with stuff like Wings, all well and good, but that won't help when the gap is lv 50 Soul Engraving vs Lv 20
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Okay so here's some problems with Auction House.
Example 1
Player A sells unbound Crypt Key for 50 balens
Player B buys Unbound Crypt Key for 50 balens
So Player B can buy MUCH more Crypt Keys for his balens and earn more XP at Necro, since most won't bother with it now cause it's 3 keys for little reward, but if I was getting keys much cheaper, sure.
Example 2
Player A sells unbound Soul Crystal
Player B buys unbound Soul Crystal
Price? Maybe 1-5 balens each?
Player B with enough cash can reach maxed Soul Engraving, as it stands he cannot do that now.
Everyone is going to reach end game in a matter of no time. Especially since I can sell my useless loids to gather massive Soul Crystals, Mount Whips etc.
While the little guy who doesn't cash, is going to earn little in things he can sell, and end up with stuff like Wings, all well and good, but that won't help when the gap is lv 50 Soul Engraving vs Lv 20Last edited by ElusionM; 07-12-2013, 01:18 PM.
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Originally posted by ElusionM View PostR2 are not going to monitor the Auction House..
They will take a cut of whatever is being bought/sold because they need to make money.
Less likely it'll be abused by the way I suggested, but if there's no cuts for R2, then it will be abused that way.
As far as sitting in a dark corner worried about what ifs....
There are things we do, don't do that are going to increase something bad happening.
Adding Auction House is just a bad idea. I'm glad it's not implemented and I hope it never is.
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R2 are not going to monitor the Auction House..
They will take a cut of whatever is being bought/sold because they need to make money.
Less likely it'll be abused by the way I suggested, but if there's no cuts for R2, then it will be abused that way.
As far as sitting in a dark corner worried about what ifs....
There are things we do, don't do that are going to increase something bad happening.
Adding Auction House is just a bad idea. I'm glad it's not implemented and I hope it never is.
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Originally posted by krackenker View PostJust get a friend and ''sell'' your alts stuffs to him, he sells to your main char. In accordance to the rules that is actually allowed since that friend might change his mind and you just happend to buy your stuffs back.
If we worry about single bad thing in our lives we might as well just sit inside in a small dark corner and don't do anything. That goes with games as well. If you are too worried about exploits and hacks and **** like that. Then you might as well don't play a game at all. I assure you this game is already having some sort of "exploits" in it. Just like all other mmos out there. Bad things will happen and so will good things. Why hinder everyone els's gameplay just to stop a few exploits that may happen? Let people enjoy the full content of the game with out struggling to get gear. Lower the gap from casher to non casher and this game will be much better.
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