Holy Seal should be removed from Cross-Server Arena

[0xykotton]

send the suggestion to 7road

The Chinese version doesn't have any problem since they have a lot of ways to balance things out. Major reason is all there items are a lot cheaper. You can actually build your toon with ease there and not too expensive. They also have an auction house so trading gear is there so you are able to actually compete a good level. It isnt 7roads fault. It's R2s fault for being greedy and not helping out the newer players casher or non casher. You still screwed over if you started brand new. Unless you decide to be the next zebq you won't be really making it far.

[Spiritombz]

send the suggestion to 7road

[0xykotton]

Either HS needs to be removed, HS needs to be revamped to be more fair, or the matching system needs to be revamped so that older servers don't compete with newer servers. Just bc as Danmare stated it is impossible to catch to older servers. People say to build HS and stop lvling up. Which is all fine and dandy but when you get to 65 the cap is basically gone. So if you just joined and are server 3xx you won't be able to ever compete with someone on s1 once you reach the 65+ lvl. Now you say well don't lvl up and slow lvl right? That's great and a lot of people would agree with you but since the lack of merging and the increase of servers being made it is impossible to slow lvl. Unless you find 4 people willing to slow lvl with you through out the game. With the dead servers if you do not find a group right away and stick with it you be left in the dust. Thus, your choices are either quit or find a new server and try again.

[Danmare]

If R2 just wants to keep their older players and lose alot of newer players, and even some spenders then yes they should keep HS. I know many players and spenders that have quit b/c it is IMPOSSIBLE for the newer servers to catch up to the older servers. and 3 turns is kinda ridiculous, it takes the fun out of the game for many players. Ulness you spend alot you can't compete against the cowards that started playing early that rely on HS

[ANWB-praatpaal]

HS removal would only be great if you are in Party Arena and your team is lower then lvl 50 and you comes in battle against higher then 50. Then it's fair to play if the HS is to be removed. Otherwise not.

[CondorHero]

The way I see it, there is an equation in this game. Time invested generally results in more power. Older servers and their players, for that reason, tend to be higher level and higher BR, etc. But as they say, time is money. So money can be used to offset any time difference between older players and newer players. Easy case example, Zebq vs. onimad.

Older players will almost always have the upper hand. In Holy Seal, in gear...you name it. As it should be. Pay your dues in a game. If you don't want to do that...then instead of spending time directly on this game...spend money (which took you time to earn). I'm only a 2-3 month old player, btw.

But people just need to recognize you can't have your cake (not spend money on this game) and eat it too (be as strong as players who've been around much longer than you). Complaining about Holy Seal, whether its being abused or not, is just a symptom of an underlying condition - not liking someone else being stronger than you/having an advantage you don't.

Kudos to this post.

Very well-written, well summarized.

[bshallc2010]

The way I see it, there is an equation in this game. Time invested generally results in more power. Older servers and their players, for that reason, tend to be higher level and higher BR, etc. But as they say, time is money. So money can be used to offset any time difference between older players and newer players. Easy case example, Zebq vs. onimad.

Older players will almost always have the upper hand. In Holy Seal, in gear...you name it. As it should be. Pay your dues in a game. If you don't want to do that...then instead of spending time directly on this game...spend money (which took you time to earn). I'm only a 2-3 month old player, btw.

But people just need to recognize you can't have your cake (not spend money on this game) and eat it too (be as strong as players who've been around much longer than you). Complaining about Holy Seal, whether its being abused or not, is just a symptom of an underlying condition - not liking someone else being stronger than you/having an advantage you don't.

[CondorHero]

Exactly. That's why we should stop the "older players" (players who started earlier than us) from playing and leveling. That way, it is easier to catch up and then level the playing field.

Players who started earlier and played longer should be punished.

[0xykotton]

Just level up holy seal like everyone else and stop going for levels like a bunch off newbies, its not that hard to accept its a part off the game, we have a ok arena team, but we lose sometimes to worse teams because off seal, we then know we need to work harder on the seals. leveling directly too 70 isnt how this game should be played, the seals are important for PvP, if you want to PvE only by all means go too level 80, but dont come running back here and whine about holy seal because you didnt take your time leveling it like the rest off us did.

xKvappex S197

That's not the point. Even if you slow lvl and cap your HS as much as you can by the time you get to 65. There is virtually no cap at all. Thus, meaning you are never going to catch up until the older servers reach lvl 80. It is impossible to catch up when there is hardly any HS cap pass 64.

[DeathRiver]

Awww dude. I feel for you. :/

In all seriousness though. I'm on an older server and I never use HS. HS is only useful if the fight is very close & you know you can stun your opponent. Otherwise it's just a waste of time and damage. I get higher damage quicker from a lightning bolt.

I have never used HS against others either, since I know I won't be able to stun people, lol. However, I do something else to make people go nuts, Amnesia, or Chaos if I ever get it. A level 4 Amnesia would make at least two out of three people curse at me, gets me excited for some reason.

[-Eilistraee-]

That is why you have my respect as a fellow wartuner Ginger, thumbs up ... it's just too many are still hiding behind the three free attacks...

Cheers!

Eili

[GingerTheHutt]

Yes you are right. I can't win without using HS.

Awww dude. I feel for you. :/

In all seriousness though. I'm on an older server and I never use HS. HS is only useful if the fight is very close & you know you can stun your opponent. Otherwise it's just a waste of time and damage. I get higher damage quicker from a lightning bolt.

[Kvappe]

Just level up holy seal like everyone else and stop going for levels like a bunch off newbies, its not that hard to accept its a part off the game, we have a ok arena team, but we lose sometimes to worse teams because off seal, we then know we need to work harder on the seals. leveling directly too 70 isnt how this game should be played, the seals are important for PvP, if you want to PvE only by all means go too level 80, but dont come running back here and whine about holy seal because you didnt take your time leveling it like the rest off us did.

xKvappex S197

[CondorHero]

Let's just stop the strong from getting stronger by imposing a ban on them.

That way, the later players will catch up and the playing field is even.

[B4nsh33]

If you people will only make stupid suggestions about what you do and what you don't do create another post as you saw in the line it says support for removing holy seal from arena, yes holy seal its a skill and its up to players to build it up, but it is an unfair power to use when servers older like s1 example fights servers from the 100s which has way less months than other servers, i think will be more enjoyable if we all have same odds of winning than only the upper servers against the new ones so i do support this post and i hope more and more people see it will be a nice change

I'm from s7.... I get stunned to h3!! and gone!!!! But, others I stun and kill, some I stun and they live. Hmmmmm..... some pay more to win, yet I had to work almost 6-7 months for my legend set, which is almost complete. How fair is it to me that someone who joins and power levels in a couple months comes destroys me? Pay your dues and do your time .... those that quit, well, whaaa sniffle sniffle. I got beat on for MONTHS in bg until I earned my sets and my gems etc.... I still get owned here and there, but mostly hold my own now, except for dryad bombers. So for those that quit, too bad you have no staying power. Enough crying about HS. Don't Level up without taking your time to do what you need to be strong. Power levelling is only for the rich!