Regarding Event [Spire & Tower of kings]

[quita85]

You saying players should leave their high level chars and joined a new server.Yet again level from ground zero make new friends.Leave the previous guildies and friends for the new ones Nice.....Ill stay with the Yes

no, i'm saying i worked hard on my BR without ever buying bales and my guild is not a casher guild, for this reasons i would be EXTREMELY p*issed if people much lower than me in game got more rewards than me because they have casher friends.
If you played till a high level on a wrong timezone server it's your problem and not mine. Plenty off servers around, why didn't you change before building your character?

[MagicAslan]

YES its oky

[Nubito]

nah, it system ok now
made spire will made it u balance
imagine lvl 40 player go with strong player in spire n tok
that would be bad

[MarcWizard]

Ill give you mine i didn't have anything do on sunday to do so i saw this game ad on a site so clicked it and made a id and randomly clicked some server.i got up to 35-40 then i came to know about this time-zone thing by this time i had many friends and guildies so you can't expect me to leave it really?.So i played it

I'll give you another one, I play on west coast server because of work, schedulin conflicts, I've tried my own time zone and the three hour difference makes it better for me to do things on WC server. I think much like MP, you should be able to get help if you need it, but only can help ONCE extra (beyond the quest one), not all the time. I'm 100% in favor of this.

[Manik668]

I still cannot see how being able to help past your own attempt is bad. That being said:

If you do not have the strength of character to refuse an invitation and tell people that you will not help them, then you need to build a bridge and get over it.

If you are afraid that people will have an unfair advantage by getting more xp, then take a look at the world prosperity for low leves that gives them +150% xp. Build a bigger bridge and get over that too, it's not a real issue.

If you think that the point of a multiplayer instance is to only do it once with 1 team, and exclude anyone else you might want to have fun with, you need to go learn what the prefix multi- means again. You should know already.

For the record, I am not a low player. I am one of the ones that would help out other people simply because I like the multiplayer vs environment that you get in mpds, spire, and tok. I might help the occasional lower player, but even when people help other people, they look for more people their own level or BR.

I might help a team of other high levels in spire so that they don't have to take a lvl 46 player and penalize themselves by not getting to at least boss 10. A team of lvl 46-50 players would look for one of their friends in that level who already finished so that they can have a full team and experience spire when you have a balanced team.

It is not fun for ANYONE when you only have unbalanced teams in everything. I know when I was lower lvl I didn't want a higher level to carry me through void nm, because I wanted to do it with my own team. I wanted to do my part and have fun, not watch someone else solo it. If that's what you want, fine, you'll be quitting soon enough anyway.

I have yet to see a good reason other than "Oh no, it can be abused!!" for only being able to enter for your attempt. The equalizer that is ALREADY set in place is that you get rewards 1 time, and 1 time only. This is so that you don't have high BR players doing MPDs over and over. And I say MPDs here, because you get so much more xp from them than you could ever get from spire or tok. If you don't believe me, go do Lych's Lair with the free daily xp scroll, and compare the xp to what you get from lvl 12 in spire.

Bottom line, STOP being kids focusing on a spammer, STOP whining about potential for abuse when it's actually very minimal, and START thinking and being creative about how we can make this better for EVERYONE!!

I want some good ideas on how to change this in a positive way, it doesn't have to be only about letting us enter it past our attempts, use your brains and think.

[Ryithius]

hellspawn some thing as yawn... When i first saw this game while screwing around at work on addictinggames.com... i clicked the link and set up a username and whatnot... didnt realize the servers were based on timezones and just randomly clicked a westcoast server... after building my char and meeting friends and joining a guild, I wasnt about to start all over to go to an East coast timezone. It has its pro's and cons however, Cons are that I miss all of the stuff that happens at night for me, WB other then the wolf, GB, Tree of ancients, and anything else that goes on... but on the bright side, I get on before the reset every morning so anything I didnt complete the day before, i still have at least 2 hours to finish the next day

[killall559]

It will cause havoc because people will say: It's not fair, that guys getting boosted and stuff and getting extra rewards where most of us can't etc etc etc and you know what happens next

you mean like how people complain stun is not fair since they cant beat no one because there stunned all the time lol its all useless bickering will always exist so lets make the game better for the whole and let the whinners leave if they dont like it simple as that.

[YawnQ]

Being HONEST here...Why would you choose a server that's not within your time zone ? SERIOUSLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

Ill give you mine i didn't have anything do on sunday to do so i saw this game ad on a site so clicked it and made a id and randomly clicked some server.i got up to 35-40 then i came to know about this time-zone thing by this time i had many friends and guildies so you can't expect me to leave it really?.So i played it

[Hellspawnn]

This has nothing really to do with cashers or non cashers... lowbies will still be able to play with their lowbie friends, it just allows people that are from different time zones to still get the event done with either friends/guild members. Say for instance, that because I am on the East coast (I'm in Boston) but I play on S21 (West Coast server)... I normally play at work in my office MON-FRI 8am EST - 4:30pm EST... However if I end up not being able to play during the day and in the very rare off chance I have time to play at home at night after work. If all my friends and guild members that I normally run spire/ToK with had already run the event during the normal times that we would have done it together during the day, they would still be able to run it with me and therefor I wouldn't be left scrambling trying to find people to do it with. It can also screw me because I may have to settle playing with people that are in their 20's for BR when I am near 40k just because that is the only people available. I do understand what you naysayers are getting at, however brown nosers as you like to call them will always find a way to brown nose to up their game. The people that you say want to do things legit and work for it, they are not going to change the way they want to play the game. It is the same concept as cashers/non cashers... just because people pay for the game, doesnt mean that everyone is going to start paying just to be as good... So I 100% have to agree with Yawn. Being in a guild or being a friend that plays with the same people every day is a privilege and I honestly believe why this game is so great and extremely enjoyable. The human interaction is what makes this fun, or else we would all just be playing the original Warcraft or Final Fantasy games alone... Not being able to play with those people and only being able to chat is a serious hindrance, so you may as well play Final Fantasy on your Playstation 1 all by yourself and re-downloading AOL instant messenger and chatting with your friends since that is basically the equivalent to my point. Sorry for the long post, just wanted to weigh in on the topic

Being HONEST here...Why would you choose a server that's not within your time zone ? SERIOUSLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

[Hellspawnn]

It will cause havoc because people will say: It's not fair, that guys getting boosted and stuff and getting extra rewards where most of us can't etc etc etc and you know what happens next

[killall559]

What he's trying to say and what i'm trying to say is that...If you can enter spire/tok as much as u want...lvl 60+ dude(NOT BR, LVL) will go help lowbies so they can help them get to higher stages or levels and so they would get a higher and much better rewards....IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ? So if you're lvl 36(when spire opens) you'd get boosted ? IF they do what you suggested.....THERE WILL BE HAVOC

umm hate to burst your bubble but this is already being done i myself did it the other day was me at 63 another lvl 60ish guild mate and 2 random guys around 50 with barely 30k BR we got them 2 to stage 7 most likely way past what they should get to on there own. so how would this create havoc please explain this to me.

[YawnQ]

Hellspawnn That's fine because it's fine for you.But i didn't post for me or a individual i posted for the people whom it's not fine.

[Ryithius]

This has nothing really to do with cashers or non cashers... lowbies will still be able to play with their lowbie friends, it just allows people that are from different time zones to still get the event done with either friends/guild members. Say for instance, that because I am on the East coast (I'm in Boston) but I play on S21 (West Coast server)... I normally play at work in my office MON-FRI 8am EST - 4:30pm EST... However if I end up not being able to play during the day and in the very rare off chance I have time to play at home at night after work. If all my friends and guild members that I normally run spire/ToK with had already run the event during the normal times that we would have done it together during the day, they would still be able to run it with me and therefor I wouldn't be left scrambling trying to find people to do it with. It can also screw me because I may have to settle playing with people that are in their 20's for BR when I am near 40k just because that is the only people available. I do understand what you naysayers are getting at, however brown nosers as you like to call them will always find a way to brown nose to up their game. The people that you say want to do things legit and work for it, they are not going to change the way they want to play the game. It is the same concept as cashers/non cashers... just because people pay for the game, doesnt mean that everyone is going to start paying just to be as good... So I 100% have to agree with Yawn. Being in a guild or being a friend that plays with the same people every day is a privilege and I honestly believe why this game is so great and extremely enjoyable. The human interaction is what makes this fun, or else we would all just be playing the original Warcraft or Final Fantasy games alone... Not being able to play with those people and only being able to chat is a serious hindrance, so you may as well play Final Fantasy on your Playstation 1 all by yourself and re-downloading AOL instant messenger and chatting with your friends since that is basically the equivalent to my point. Sorry for the long post, just wanted to weigh in on the topic

[Hellspawnn]

Hellspawnn
Do you think even if this what i am saying will be implemented on the server directly without any changes by the game developers side... .NO. The game developers will make some changes like now i have something in mind.
Just a Assumption:
Like after this get implemented we would get some thing lets Call it A...This A thing is a drop item which we would get from the spire and tok monsters randomly .People who got This A can renter the Spire and tok dun a certain amount of A would be needed to enter and the other option would be Balens like 35-50 balens to renter .and they won't get rewards the second time just they will using their balens and the A items to help.

that is something that will never happen. SPIRE/TOK are fine as they are

[Hellspawnn]

Exactly man that's my point..high lvl's go help lowbies when THEIR attempts are done. I even do it myself in MPD's. Let's say i'm lvl 70 and i've done my run with same lvl as me....If i can enter spire again and I decide to go help lowbies to get to stage 10 in spire for example it wouldn't really be ideal...OTHERWISE THIS GAME WILL DEPEND ONLY ON HIGH LVL'S. The fun about tok/spire is to see if you're capable of enduring those lvl's