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    Spire is taking up way too much time especially if you are trying to get past level 12 and saving up vulcans. It takes my group a good 20-25 minutes of constant boss action to get to or pass level 12 in Spire.

    Wartune should have a Spire Stage Start Selection to decrease Spire time. It would allow players to choose their Spire starting level based on the lowest level that all players have completed.

    Yes, that may prevent players from obtaining extra buffs (vulcans) if they skip to level 6 and don't vulcan for the bosses but it should function similar to Catacombs where you can get to where you last left off. Spire is a grind now. With Spire Stage Selection, every day will be an attempt to go further without grinding through 11 levels of the same bosses.

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    If all your players complete 12, you choose 12, then what else do you have to do for the day? Try to beat 13 everyday but fail?
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    • #3
      How are you suggesting the rewards to work for this? Do you get rewards for all the stages that you skipped or just the ones that you do that day? If it's the former, then you're basically getting rewards for doing nothing, and if the latter, then you're losing a lot anyways.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CondorHero View Post
        If all your players complete 12, you choose 12, then what else do you have to do for the day? Try to beat 13 everyday but fail?
        not sure what your point is. would you rather spend 20-25 minutes to fail at 13 or a maximum of 5 minutes with full spire buffs with a stage selection?

        if you start at level 13 with all spire buffs still available there's a much better chance to pass 13 and onward

        it would work very much like catacomb blitz so it's not something new at all. it is much more appealing trying to pass a NEW level than to grind through the same levels every day especially if you have limited buffs to save thereby slowly grinding through the lower stages.

        in addition the rewards for every stage is the same and not worth grinding through to get to higher stages. if the rewards were increased like ToK easy, normal, hard, and nightmare, then it would be much more worth the while
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        • #5
          Originally posted by R27402931 View Post
          How are you suggesting the rewards to work for this? Do you get rewards for all the stages that you skipped or just the ones that you do that day? If it's the former, then you're basically getting rewards for doing nothing, and if the latter, then you're losing a lot anyways.
          of course players should get previous stage rewards just like catacombs blitz
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          • #6
            Originally posted by qphantom View Post
            of course players should get previous stage rewards just like catacombs blitz
            Oh, so i can make my party leader choose to level 12 because he passed level 12, while i only passed lvl 3? that was a great idea!!!!!
            Pfft yeah right.
            Have you played a mode called "boss rush mode" in game like Castlevania and such? Spire is basically that mode.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Arlad View Post
              Oh, so i can make my party leader choose to level 12 because he passed level 12, while i only passed lvl 3? that was a great idea!!!!!
              Pfft yeah right.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by qphantom View Post
                please read before you post
                Please do not just read, but comprehend the sentence.
                Originally posted by Wraithraiser
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Arlad View Post
                  Please do not just read, but comprehend the sentence.
                  please read before your post

                  allow players to choose their Spire starting level based on the lowest level that all players have completed.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by qphantom View Post
                    please read before your post

                    allow players to choose their Spire starting level based on the lowest level that all players have completed.
                    Meh, you were right. i wasnt read the opening post.

                    Anyway, while it sounds like a good idea, i disagree fully because it's killing the intensity of spire. It was a team based gameplay. Why not make MP dungeons and ToK fully automated / blitz capable if you can make a stage selection in spire?
                    Last edited by Arlad; 09-01-2013, 02:32 PM.
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                    • #11
                      No, bc as stated by Arlad it can be exploited. People who never done spire can just find a high lvl friend that has done spire before and got far into it. Then have him be leader and pick the stage. Thus making the ones that haven't done spire at all get rewards that they shouldn't have received. The way it is now is fine. We already have 1x mp a day so time is much much shorter than it is now. Things need to short in time yes but not everything. Tok and Spire shouldn't be made shorter/easier.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by qphantom View Post
                        of course players should get previous stage rewards just like catacombs blitz
                        So you're getting a free pass on bosses? One of the challenges of spire is using your runes wisely and this doesn't make you work to conserve for the higher bosses.

                        A low BR player can ask stronger people to help for 1 day to get to a boss that he couldn't even dream of getting to before, and now he can just get easy rewards from those stages?

                        Catacomb blitz isn't instant nor is it free (unless you have spirit covenant, then it doesn't use gold) so just skipping stages 1-12 completely while getting full rewards just seem ridiculous.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by qphantom View Post
                            of course players should get previous stage rewards just like catacombs blitz
                            So you're getting a free pass on bosses? One of the challenges of spire is using your runes wisely and this doesn't make you work to conserve for the higher bosses.

                            A low BR player can ask stronger people to help for 1 day to get to a boss that he couldn't even dream of getting to before, and now he can just get easy rewards from those stages?

                            Catacomb blitz isn't instant nor is it free (unless you have spirit covenant, then it doesn't use gold) so just skipping stages 1-12 completely while getting full rewards just seem ridiculous.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by R27402931 View Post
                              So you're getting a free pass on bosses? One of the challenges of spire is using your runes wisely and this doesn't make you work to conserve for the higher bosses.

                              A low BR player can ask stronger people to help for 1 day to get to a boss that he couldn't even dream of getting to before, and now he can just get easy rewards from those stages?

                              Catacomb blitz isn't instant nor is it free (unless you have spirit covenant, then it doesn't use gold) so just skipping stages 1-12 completely while getting full rewards just seem ridiculous.
                              what you say is very true but helping lower players get rewards is not a major impact as there are lots of aids for low level players already in place. this is more geared towards the veteran players who are grinding day in and day out. also, a blitz gold "penalty" like catacomb is a small price to pay if ever there is one just as i would say everyone blitz's their catacomb these days

                              in addition, i imagine it would take a huge amount of more time to get to 14, 15, 16, and further on.

                              again like i said, it's much more fun to try to get past your current stage than to grind through 12 bosses
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