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Last edited by Bashugud; 09-14-2013, 05:03 PM.
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Originally posted by Bashugud View PostYou still crack me up, oh god the pain ) First I've nothing to gain by lying as you say. Second I stick by my statement, I know my knight and what he can do. Now most of my encounters troops are finished in 3 moves and as I said in my post cashers will take me a 4th move and what I should also have put as you seem to be looking for the knights down fall is monster cashers will take me up to 5/6 moves to finished their troops off, Now as there isn't a huge amount of monster cashers in the game, I still stick by my statement.
Bro by JUST using guild skills and being a lvl 75 guy with academy tech maxed, anyone can get a 2500 TC, its not very uncommon and "does not" involve cash in any way, all they have to do is use a charisma pot(and maybe switch charisma astral which a lot of mages do) in BG and they are set. Oh and if u dont take pot and astral into account even then they have 2250+ TC which is still enough to withstand your attacks for 5 turns, now i am not in a mood to do math for that but u can substitute their 85k HP with 78kish HP thats it, still enough to waste 5 turn of yours.
Ok now that we've got that off the way, tell me about your combo by which u clear temps in 3 moves?Last edited by kattuktk; 09-14-2013, 09:22 PM.
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Originally posted by kaykays View Postwell,let me tell you sth:i have a knight and with 2 astrals,crit and determination and 8 lvl4 crit gems,I overpass archers and mages in wb(and i do that every wb)...but tell me how can an archer or mage tank dtnm,unless he's 90k +?
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Originally posted by Bashugud View PostDid you even read. I said most of my encounters. but then we move into kattuktk dreamland of the monster cashers which will take me the 5/6 moves. Now if you go back to my first reply and the only reason why I replied, he was giving the impression that we knights couldn't and wouldn't be able to kill them which is just bull. oh and my combo would be as kattuktk stated which is why I asked if you even read it.
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostSorry but I dont think you have enough exp in this game, maybe u got a 85k BR char through a handover?? coz if u had enough exp u would know that using cash one cannot increase their TC directly. Medals, high lvl academy tech and high guild skills can shoot anyone's TC over 2250 no prob(dont forget u get 10 TC for leveling as well).
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Originally posted by Eranor View PostLike someone wrote already, worst thing about knight are talents. Useless talents. There should be some to increase efficiency/decrease cd for main knights skills. Right now... there's only talent for ww useful and... seems like thats all. Shorter cd on edd won't be useful in a lot of situations and tyranny or second wind isnt good enough.
And well personally i would love if enhanced block would heal 5 or 6% instead of 4 :P
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I'm a knight, and yes some day, I think it's tough for us. But, I just want to say one thing. I don't know what kind of archers you guys have on
your server, but I only see one archer on my server who can tank Demon Temple Nightmare and he's a huge casher.
I mean, when our best players were around 60K BR unbuff, NO archer was able to tank whether it's Moon Nightmare or Demon Temple Nighmare. Yes, one archer can tank Moon Normal or even Demon Temple Normal. People are always asking for knights to tank for them on our server. My point is, maybe you guys have some 100K BR full casher on your server who can help everyone all day getting by first boss of DT NM or whatever you want, but on my server think people are really happy to see knights tanking for them.
Just tired of people thinking because elitank can tank nightmare mode, that all server have like 20 archers who can do the same... I could be a mage and tank those MP if I spent what some people spent on this game lol
Edit: Now with blessing wheel, it might be easier for archers to tank, but we got that like 2 weeks ago. Might be easier for them now, but wasn't
the case before.Last edited by Eskendal; 09-15-2013, 06:19 AM.
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Originally posted by Bashugud View PostI guess if you say I don't have the exp I must except your word on that , I'll just say one more thing would my knights pdef/mdef not help my troops in staying alive longer? if your answer is yes then I was correct in saying cash helps. but if you tell me cash won't help knights pdef/mdef I'll just have to except your word on that also (not)
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Originally posted by Roadsidebomb View PostI wrote that and its true, our (Knights) talents blow. For a class that is described by everyone as being the "defensive" or "tank" class i cannot for the life of me understand why we don't have some talent attached to Aragorns or Apollos, by far our 2 most "defensive" skills. Shadow Tharasher, who said it had a long cd and cast speed, cd is 1 sec. End of the day most ppl who comment singing the praises of Knights need to play a bit longer to know *** they're talking about. Lvl 60, 60k BR lmao. Talking about Moonevil Den MP how apollos is so great in that mp hahahaha. Fact is Knight isn't needed is any mp. Even 70 NM mps. All ppl wanna say "maybe you need to learn to build your Knight correctly" so Oxycotton, is my Knight built correctly? I gave u a flogging in BG the other day. Not bragging only trying to make my point that perhaps I have some grounds to voice an educated opinion. A final thing, funny how they have Crit scrolls but no Block scrolls, wonder how many ppl ever wondered that as well. ppl still wanna say Knights aren't **'ed?
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostNo your knight's MDEF/PDEF does not help your troops in any way, its your troop count which matters and there is no direct method of increasing troop count through balens(yet)
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostNo your knight's MDEF/PDEF does not help your troops in any way, its your troop count which matters and there is no direct method of increasing troop count through balens(yet)
A really strong knight can take my troops in 3-4 moves, and I'm a mage if my troops die, I die usually..
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Originally posted by Bashugud View PostIf you think the players pdef/mdef has no bearing on troops. I'll advise you to go to sunny woods with a friend kill him normally as you do, then ask him to stand in front of his troops and take him out first, then I want you to take note of the massive damage difference when you removed the knight. Only thing i ask is for you not to go in to denial when you see the results.
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Originally posted by MarcWizard View PostTrue no DIRECT way, but you forget troop enlightenment requires DARU right? How do you get Daru other than planting or WB? That's right! You can get daru through Alchemy! A monster casher wouldnt think twice about using alchemy to increase the enlightenment of his troops and thereby not increasing troop count but can increase troop HP etc, maybe he use enlightenment lvl 10.
A really strong knight can take my troops in 3-4 moves, and I'm a mage if my troops die, I die usually..
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