Now that zebq is gone, who is the strongest player on Wartune?

[lord_69]

hahahahahahahahaha

[bakuryuuha]

i cant believe players that play game that much as you and still ignoring basic things about their class...its easier for u to remove ur LD medallion and see that it gives u 840 crit stat while i get only 700. i agree that its not same as pdef-hp that knights have but still you get more br from passives. so mages get the least out of passive and to counter that handicap, game gave mattck 1.05 factor for br so the numbers grow faster, but that means that an equal br mage-archer-knight the useful br counter goes like this mage<archers<knights.

Actually I didn't play that much. I just happened to stay around longer than others =P As for getting more br, our crit stat has always been difficult to raise whether by gems, astrals or equipment since they only add a bit of crit, so 20% of a small stat is only a small gain. Knights will still win in the BR game with 20% of def which is usually a 5 digit figure for most decent knights compared to 20% of a 4 digit crit stat....even if the br factor per crit pt vs pdef is higher, the difference in the absolute value of the 20% of pdef vs 20% of crit is just too big for the factor to balance out. Mages do get the least br, but they're the most OP class in the casher category. casher mage>casher archer/knight. When advance skills come out, mages will just become more OP. Bada ss AOE dmg, massive HP removal skill that hits as hard as an archer's delphic against a mage (or harder in most cases)...

20% HP works out a lot of BR if huge health .. lets say health is 100,000 without archer passive so 20% of 100,000 health = 20,000 health .. is 1000 BR per 5000 health (1 BR pr 5 health) so that 20,000 extra health gives 4,000 BR
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now for pipster
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well...not to mention having orange sylphs max enchanted gives massive hp as well (easily 50k hp) which is 10k br...

[Kingryan]

like the post above me says, it is crit rate. Not crit stats. Archer passive does not add to BR at all. You can cre8 one and test it yourself. It only takes you about an hr to verify it since the passive can be learned at an early lvl. The passive only makes us crit more often than other classes with the same crit rating stats.

That was what I thought first, but then, I have an archer friend, after socketing a crit gems, his crit stat increase more than it should be... which means, crit passive of archers adds br.

And also because of this I have realized that the crit stat doesn't make your crit damage strong, instead, it only increases your crit rate, as what is defined in the skill set...

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[DanteMugetsu]

like the post above me says, it is crit rate. Not crit stats. Archer passive does not add to BR at all. You can cre8 one and test it yourself. It only takes you about an hr to verify it since the passive can be learned at an early lvl. The passive only makes us crit more often than other classes with the same crit rating stats.

i cant believe players that play game that much as you and still ignoring basic things about their class...its easier for u to remove ur LD medallion and see that it gives u 840 crit stat while i get only 700. i agree that its not same as pdef-hp that knights have but still you get more br from passives. so mages get the least out of passive and to counter that handicap, game gave mattck 1.05 factor for br so the numbers grow faster, but that means that an equal br mage-archer-knight the useful br counter goes like this mage<archers<knights.

[ex951753]

Even if archers passive increase br, it is still significantly less than knights because you do not get crit from mounts and crit gems are halved in stats compared to pdef gems.

[R23224943]

It really isn't fair to compared different classes. Knights passive all adds to stats that affect BR. Archers passive only affects crit % which doesn't affect BR. Mages are in between. So its normal for a knight to have more BR, but in terms of real strength compared to other classes, the other classes would have lower BR by 5 - 15k. Best way to compare is SS their items stats, gem levels, astrals, player stats, sylph stats, mount stats and time taken to achieve those. Since those mostly remain the same (other than player stats affected by class specific passives) irregardless of which class you are. If someone has 50k patk and 50k matk, he would also have high BR, but a large portion is fake strength.

20% HP works out a lot of BR if huge health .. lets say health is 100,000 without archer passive so 20% of 100,000 health = 20,000 health .. is 1000 BR per 5000 health (1 BR pr 5 health) so that 20,000 extra health gives 4,000 BR


now for pipster

[Numbnuts]

like the post above me says, it is crit rate. Not crit stats. Archer passive does not add to BR at all. You can cre8 one and test it yourself. It only takes you about an hr to verify it since the passive can be learned at an early lvl. The passive only makes us crit more often than other classes with the same crit rating stats.

im an archer, without ld medal i have 4999 crit..with it i have 5839 crit..yet ld medal only gives 700 crit..so where did the extra 140 crit came from? its from the 20% crit passive thats archers have..20% of 700 is 140 that 140 crit from archer passive adds br

[amidza.1]

the strongest on s32

[bakuryuuha]

athena i am 140% sure that crit counts as br...so the passive that archers get raise ur br...

also archers get 20% more crit + 20% more hp

knights 20% more pdef + 20% more hp

mages get 20% more mdef

so...who is scr.ew.ed i really dunno... i dont count the attack boost that all classes get...

like the post above me says, it is crit rate. Not crit stats. Archer passive does not add to BR at all. You can cre8 one and test it yourself. It only takes you about an hr to verify it since the passive can be learned at an early lvl. The passive only makes us crit more often than other classes with the same crit rating stats.

[SnipeShot6]

athena i am 140% sure that crit counts as br...so the passive that archers get raise ur br...

also archers get 20% more crit + 20% more hp

knights 20% more pdef + 20% more hp

mages get 20% more mdef

so...who is scr.ew.ed i really dunno... i dont count the attack boost that all classes get...

archers passive is +20% crit rate, but it doesnt add crit to our crit stat, its just calculated in to our damage. so no bonus BR from passive crit.

[ancev]

Someone got butthurt xD.Get real if you are scrub that doesn`t means every single one that is more stronger than you to be hacker. Plus 100k rly more than the majority is over 100k lol.

11-25-2013 10:11 AM
I'm gonna let you figure out the rest.

[Clin7eas7wood]

Well you mean who is the biggest hackers aka cheaters now?

Anyone above 100k br is classified as those i guess.

Someone got butthurt xD.Get real if you are scrub that doesn`t means every single one that is more stronger than you to be hacker. Plus 100k rly more than the majority is over 100k lol.

[R29137335]

So much discussion about zebq and him quitting game.... i think we should move forward on current players. who is the strongest player across all servers now?

Who cares about zebq and other strongest player. I play my game. He is just hard casher not player.

[Lazydazymugetsu]

Now that zebq is back, there is 1 more post over his return. Feel free to go over there and celebrate , and close this thread