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  • Linazz
    started a topic Illusion Astral - What do you think?

    Illusion Astral - What do you think?

    Hello community,

    I'd like to take a look at the Illusion astral. In particular, i'd like your opinions on the proc rate.
    The orange one gives 2% dodge chance for every lvl it is at.
    So at lvl 5 (10% chance) it should proc as much as a Deflection astral should. But I feel like it doesn't.

    A lvl 8 illusion should proc 16% of the time. That's theoretical.
    Practice is disappointing. By this I mean it procs so much less than the deflection astral while it should proc more!

    How do you guys feel about this once so glorious and mandatory astral ?

    --Cheers

  • Clin7eas7wood
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    Originally posted by Linazz View Post
    Hello community,

    I'd like to take a look at the Illusion astral. In particular, i'd like your opinions on the proc rate.
    The orange one gives 2% dodge chance for every lvl it is at.
    So at lvl 5 (10% chance) it should proc as much as a Deflection astral should. But I feel like it doesn't.

    A lvl 8 illusion should proc 16% of the time. That's theoretical.
    Practice is disappointing. By this I mean it procs so much less than the deflection astral while it should proc more!

    How do you guys feel about this once so glorious and mandatory astral ?

    --Cheers
    Speaking from experience the proc rate mate is individual.For me deflection was very disappointing try it for 3 whole CW 0 proc and we know thats tons of fight and so many turns.Now the Illusion my is only lvl 6 and its procs so good for me so thats something you have to figure it out for yourself.GL hope you find the best astral solution for your toon.

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  • Tharlyci
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    Originally posted by Linazz View Post
    Hello community,

    I'd like to take a look at the Illusion astral. In particular, i'd like your opinions on the proc rate.
    The processing rate is tolerable for Enhanced Illusion at L5 or higher. It appears to be accurate when tested in extended PvE situations (e.g., Spire). As a slot 5 or slot 6 astral, an Enhanced Illusion L5+ is decent for a more defensive build as long as your *ATK is weak (<13k or so); after that point it should be mothballed in favor of either Enhanced Will Destroyer or Pristine/Holy Sniper. The problem is that with weak *ATK, your performance depends on surviving; with a strong *ATK, your performance is based on making *ATK more efficient.

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  • Linazz
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    In the old days, where the illusion astral was mandatory that ***** astral procced 20-30% of the time while it was lvl 5 lol.
    R2 decided to 'fix the proc rate' but nerfed it into the ground instead
    In my opinion it should be fixed back to reflect its actual proc rate; the proc rate stated on the info of the astral. OR fix the info to 0,1% per lvl lol ... Would be nice if players actually had to choose between astrals. At the moment everyone uses the same types. This is getting old and boring

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  • GingerTheHutt
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    I had a level 6 illusion for a while while play testing possible astrals for lvl 60.

    In the end I dumped it as the proc rate was awful.

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  • S44-ZEREF
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    Originally posted by Dechubasco View Post
    I once played this game called "Ninja Saga" , There this dodge (illusion) thing was over powered , I mean anyone with about 20% dodge could easily over power and win even tough opponents Thats why I used this Level 7 Illusion astral on the last class wars but I was really disappointed in it , I didnt notice it activating even once in the whole classwars event (I am a mage and most of the battle lasted till the time was over ) I dont know if that day was a bad luck or so but I dont have hope for this astral .. SO I dont think it is that good astral
    in ns dodge is still overpowered i dodge almost all of opponent atacks

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  • Dechubasco
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    I once played this game called "Ninja Saga" , There this dodge (illusion) thing was over powered , I mean anyone with about 20% dodge could easily over power and win even tough opponents Thats why I used this Level 7 Illusion astral on the last class wars but I was really disappointed in it , I didnt notice it activating even once in the whole classwars event (I am a mage and most of the battle lasted till the time was over ) I dont know if that day was a bad luck or so but I dont have hope for this astral .. SO I dont think it is that good astral

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  • Setsuna88
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    i also used both for a while and noticed deflection working more often than illu. in theory it would be a much better astral than block for archers/mages but looks like it doesnt work as it should. still, hp astral gets more useless with increasing max hp values. so at some point its probably worth using illu instead of hp again.

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  • S44-ZEREF
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    illu is the BIG gamble in the game,thou its awesome when it activates vs thunderer/sniper edge if you like to risk use it otherwise use to lv others

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  • gruntar
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    I've tried a lvl 9 for last cw...was really disappointed(proc rate between 1/2 to 1/4th of listed), so i fed it into my gb instead, and made a 7 illu...this cw im likely going with ga instead

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  • Ban-kai
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    Originally posted by Linazz View Post
    Hello community,

    I'd like to take a look at the Illusion astral. In particular, i'd like your opinions on the proc rate.
    The orange one gives 2% dodge chance for every lvl it is at.
    So at lvl 5 (10% chance) it should proc as much as a Deflection astral should. But I feel like it doesn't.

    A lvl 8 illusion should proc 16% of the time. That's theoretical.
    Practice is disappointing. By this I mean it procs so much less than the deflection astral while it should proc more!

    How do you guys feel about this once so glorious and mandatory astral ?

    --Cheers
    yo bro!
    u know what i did with my illusion? synth it into HP astral and Hp astral is like the worse astral xD!
    illu seems retarded i did lots of testing with deflection vs illu lvl 10 and results?
    deflection proceed like 2-4x more then illu. so remove that sh it already;P

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  • kattuktk
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    Deflection certainly procs more than illusion, illusion is not worth it in my opinion, but keep it around if they ever decide to fix the proc rate

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  • Ole.Joe
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    i [lvl 74 knight]used it lvl 7 earlier, now moved to defelct whil;e waiting my red hp,

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  • R24675921
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    I prefer block over dodge any day but then again its because im an archer

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  • Whispir
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    I tried lvl 6/12% for a while. Wasn't a big fan of it. Never tried Deflection so I can't compare.

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