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  • #31
    Originally posted by StonedKiller View Post
    "to make archers or knights more op" yeah it would obviusly make knights to op but archers? doesn't matter if we have high crits lol in higher lvl bgs this is always the same---> mages clean ur troops in the second aoe----archer sitll killing troops....tho with the sylphs this has gotten a bit more easier (to clean the troops) but still the mages have the advantage for that so yeaah if there's an op class in wartune it would be mages for sure
    Archers passive? bah just a boost of hp and more crit chance wow we don't crit always and more hp for what? it isn't much when we have lower defs than mages and knights
    You joking around?

    1. Multishot 100% crits. So higher crit, higher damage.
    2. Archer's skill are random. So no point in "still killing the troops" cause you could kill the mage first. Add to that the fact that Deep Freeze and Armor Piercer targets the back row, which is where most mages place themselves.
    3. Haven't you read one of the recommended gems to socket for archers? Then I'll tell you: Charisma Gems... If your troops get wiped out after the second aoe skill of mage, then it is your fault, not them... You upgrade your troop count if you are losing againsts mages.
    4. Lunatic fire is insane.. Low cooldown, fast casting time, and your passive "increase damage (not crit) by __% everytime you crit" will be turned on to X5, so you'll do more damage. Duh.
    5. Incendiary shot... You don't really know how paralyzing a 30% reduced damage of the enemy, is, right?

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    • #32
      GIve the block and crit low returns then for academy. Make it +3 block and +3 crit per level then. That isn't too game breaking and benefits everyone still.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by StonedKiller View Post
        "to make archers or knights more op" yeah it would obviusly make knights to op but archers? doesn't matter if we have high crits lol in higher lvl bgs this is always the same---> mages clean ur troops in the second aoe----archer sitll killing troops....tho with the sylphs this has gotten a bit more easier (to clean the troops) but still the mages have the advantage for that so yeaah if there's an op class in wartune it would be mages for sure
        Archers passive? bah just a boost of hp and more crit chance wow we don't crit always and more hp for what? it isn't much when we have lower defs than mages and knights

        Then it should be No Critical in WB too .. lol ... get strong so u can kill any opponent ... or buy balens n make R2 richer .. lol ...

        If ur def lower than mage that should be ur problem ... for MDEF ofc u should lower ... but PDEF .. lol .. shoud be same as minimal, coz mages don't have any build there .... N' Mage's HP is lower than archer ... U can't kill it than ur problem there ... get strong plzz ... if possible like ZEBQ ..

        In other words u only want win and not want lose ...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Kingryan View Post
          You joking around?

          1. Multishot 100% crits. So higher crit, higher damage.
          2. Archer's skill are random. So no point in "still killing the troops" cause you could kill the mage first. Add to that the fact that Deep Freeze and Armor Piercer targets the back row, which is where most mages place themselves.
          3. Haven't you read one of the recommended gems to socket for archers? Then I'll tell you: Charisma Gems... If your troops get wiped out after the second aoe skill of mage, then it is your fault, not them... You upgrade your troop count if you are losing againsts mages.
          4. Lunatic fire is insane.. Low cooldown, fast casting time, and your passive "increase damage (not crit) by __% everytime you crit" will be turned on to X5, so you'll do more damage. Duh.
          5. Incendiary shot... You don't really know how paralyzing a 30% reduced damage of the enemy, is, right?

          In other word, he builds his archer with mage base perhaps .. lol ... coz he didn't know how to build archer ...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by R23902715 View Post
            In other word, he builds his archer with mage base perhaps .. lol ... coz he didn't know how to build archer ...
            Well, archers can cast magic dont you know?
            62996
            Five Sylphs for the Heros in wartune,
            Two for the Whales in their deep blue ocean,
            Three for Mortal Men doomed to die,
            One for the Big Whales on their dark throne
            In the Land of Wartune where the heroes lie.
            One sylph to crush them all, One sylph to kill mobs,
            One sylph to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
            In the Land of Wartune where the Moby duck lie."

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            • #36
              oke i am up for the ideea to add crit and block,but what about ppl who use will destroyer?will you force them to change their stats to critical?if you do want to add block and crit in academy add also one more stat the effects of will destroyer astro : disable crit but increase dmg by % and that will even out all classes,bet a crit based person made up this thread but all that have and use will destroyer will be at a disatvantage
              so by that you will either chose:will destryer+block-mages/knights
              or chose crit+block-mages(only a few)/knight(only a few)/all archer
              Last edited by Tessen; 11-26-2013, 04:51 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tessen View Post
                oke i am up for the ideea to add crit and block,but what about ppl who use will destroyer?will you force them to change their stats to critical?if you do want to add block and crit in academy add also one more stat the effects of will destroyer astro : disable crit but increase dmg by % and that will even out all classes,bet a crit based person made up this thread but all that have and use will destroyer will be at a disatvantage
                Well, this is a pretty good question.
                62996
                Five Sylphs for the Heros in wartune,
                Two for the Whales in their deep blue ocean,
                Three for Mortal Men doomed to die,
                One for the Big Whales on their dark throne
                In the Land of Wartune where the heroes lie.
                One sylph to crush them all, One sylph to kill mobs,
                One sylph to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
                In the Land of Wartune where the Moby duck lie."

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Tessen View Post
                  oke i am up for the ideea to add crit and block,but what about ppl who use will destroyer?will you force them to change their stats to critical?if you do want to add block and crit in academy add also one more stat the effects of will destroyer astro : disable crit but increase dmg by % and that will even out all classes,bet a crit based person made up this thread but all that have and use will destroyer will be at a disatvantage
                  so by that you will either chose:will destryer+block-mages/knights
                  or chose crit+block-mages(only a few)/knight(only a few)/all archer
                  Can we also see a technology for Archers so that they can use WD without compromising their effectiveness?

                  Mages and knights can CHOOSE whether to use Crit or WD, where as archers are tied into only crit due to the way that they build rage.

                  Something that would enable rage building without crit would be a start

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Setsuna88 View Post
                    why not? because for mages this would be less helpful than for others? :P
                    Lol nothing more terrifieng to a knight than a mage with high block.... Hard enough to go against a equal br mage but when that mage has block your in serious trouble as a knight and im a knight with high block and am going to max it out along with hp.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Billy_McF View Post
                      Can we also see a technology for Archers so that they can use WD without compromising their effectiveness?

                      Mages and knights can CHOOSE whether to use Crit or WD, where as archers are tied into only crit due to the way that they build rage.

                      Something that would enable rage building without crit would be a start
                      i would love that very much as a mage to have WD and add crit aslo,guess that would make the 2 of us happy,hehe could only imagine a mage with WD+crit and crit to affect the heal and like a huge heal but thats a dream world,face the facts,you want crit+block or you want crit +block like astros are

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Tessen View Post
                        i would love that very much as a mage to have WD and add crit aslo,guess that would make the 2 of us happy,hehe could only imagine a mage with WD+crit and crit to affect the heal and like a huge heal but thats a dream world,face the facts,you want crit+block or you want crit +block like astros are
                        No I actually meant for an archer to use WD INSTEAD of crit, as it is nigh on impossible as it stands right now. The only build that an archer can have is crit.

                        Mages and knights have the luxury of choosing either build, and swapping between them when and if they choose.

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                        • #42
                          Dont worry...2.4 patch have same academy like we
                          So next half Year w/o chance for crit or blok in academy.
                          Dont count on new source of crit/block.
                          Try rafine your stats well,want more? Sacrofice your def gems for it like others...

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                          Crit Mage 80v
                          ~135k Br


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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Billy_McF View Post
                            No I actually meant for an archer to use WD INSTEAD of crit, as it is nigh on impossible as it stands right now. The only build that an archer can have is crit.

                            Mages and knights have the luxury of choosing either build, and swapping between them when and if they choose.
                            and a knight without block is a joke so knights NEED WD and BLOCK, archers Need Crit n Determin! so for a knight to go crit he loses a spot in other astrals the same as an archer would if he takes block! crit determin and block

                            stop crying about it! archers get crit scrolls at least!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BrixunMortar View Post
                              and a knight without block is a joke so knights NEED WD and BLOCK, archers Need Crit n Determin! so for a knight to go crit he loses a spot in other astrals the same as an archer would if he takes block! crit determin and block

                              stop crying about it! archers get crit scrolls at least!
                              LoL..I ain't crying about it at all

                              I am quite happy about how the game is at the moment, obviously a few things that could be altered but it's never gona happen so I don't sweat it.

                              Edit:- some knights work fine without block. Can't think of any though LOL.
                              Last edited by Billy_McF; 11-27-2013, 01:03 AM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by R21577189 View Post
                                Well, archers can cast magic dont you know?
                                so ? coz of that u build MATK ? and what the correlation with PDEF ... LOL .... what kind of magic cast that archer has which inflict damage, coz I less knowledge in archer ...

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