Mage 7th Astral (LvL 70) - Pros And Cons

[FlamingSouls]

Hello,

i am wondering what astral i should get as a mage ones i become 70 (will be lvling to 70 later today),

i will get my LD in 2-3 days so i will lvl up to 70,
i am EWD mage so no need the slot for 2x critical astrals etc,

my current astrals are:

red magic attack lvl 7
red pdef lvl 6
red mdef lvl 6
red block lvl 6
yellow WD lvl 8
yellow godness blessing lvl 7

side astrals -
red critical lvl 6
yellow determination lvl 6 (on his way to 7)
red hp lvl 4
yellow guardian angel lvl 5
yellow illusion lvl 5


how what i should get as a 7th astral?

the options are

Guardian Angel Vs HP vs illusion

Guardian Angel - Will Help Against Archers and Critical Mages + Knights.

HP - Will Boost my HP (but my current HP is at about 70k - will i need it higher) >> i think thats the worst astral.

illusion - if it would trigger as the rate it said it is >> it would be really great astral but atm it looks to me it is never working, atleath when i tested it.

so what do u think would be better?

atm i tend to use GA or illusion,

any advice will be appreciated,

thanks.

[Littlelyseria]

Im lv75 and have damnation maxed for MP runs (lych NM) and it works like a charm, i go double archer knight + me usually and +10% dmg bonus to the whole group
for 5 turns is quite a big jump, for bosses 1 and 3 the options are bolt/rof or bolt/damna (for me) and the second option seems to work better overall, i love a bit of
damage myself (quite gets compensated by just awakening when heals arent needed) and the rest can dish out more dmg.

[miQQQs]

I would agree with you pre 2.1 Part I Patch. Have you actually tried it since then?

It's been wonderful for me, personally.

I dont see this dodge dmg to 1 often still...
But if for u this work nice, super each one have own preferences, i prefere astro which give me profit all time,not few times per day and usualy not when i need it at most xD

[Zorich]

it doesn't at early lvls. But when you get higher and start doing big amounts of damage that 10% dmg boost you'll get won't compensate for the loss in dmg rof - damnation wise. as damnation will hit 4k while your rof might hit ...idk let's say 12k. In order to compensate for that 8k dmg you just lost there you need to do 80k dmg in 3 turns ...

Lower lvls it CAN be good. I remember I used it anyways... back in the days

It was great back before people had L60 PvE Gear. It would do as much damage as Thunderer in a Mage v. Mage battle. Now, it's meh at best. The only reason to take 2 ranks in it is to open up Delphic Hell Frenzy to max. That's a nice power in group arena when you can fuel it w/ a Rage Rune and get off a BL as well.

[Zorich]

Eastheria,my teammate for all grup maps/arena have v9 ilusion but rate is rly rly low...so agree,ilu sux a lot

I would agree with you pre 2.1 Part I Patch. Have you actually tried it since then?

It's been wonderful for me, personally.

[Draggyy]

10% for 5 turns, 5 rage reduce from qte so 25 rage. Ty for the insight. I guess I'll end up with same skills in both trees now lol

Ohh and I am lvl 60 zeref, but lucky me I can already do moon nm after I rushed to this level without any camping. Long live the sylphs that made all of this possible
And that vip chests that happened to be implemented all of a sudden fasten the process even more. Can;t wait for a pve set, shall be my first and I know I'll love it lol

[Linazz]

nah 10% increase. but i'm not sure that it lasts 3 turns :/ might be 5 but too lazy to check

[S44-ZEREF]

but... but 10% extra damage for 5 rounds in pve seems a lot. I mean in spire/tok/mpd(boss) 4 players dealings 10% for 5 turns especially if they use their special sounds good for 25 rage when you have pve set...4 X 5(turns) x 10% = 200% right?
And in team arena before so many aoes doesn;t seem that bad either. So can anyone details why it is so bad?and what should I choose instead?

isnt damnation 30 rage and +30% dmg? o.O and like red sayd lower levels its good higher levels meh so dont bother with it now that you 63 lol

[Linazz]

it doesn't at early lvls. But when you get higher and start doing big amounts of damage that 10% dmg boost you'll get won't compensate for the loss in dmg rof - damnation wise. as damnation will hit 4k while your rof might hit ...idk let's say 12k. In order to compensate for that 8k dmg you just lost there you need to do 80k dmg in 3 turns ...

Lower lvls it CAN be good. I remember I used it anyways... back in the days

[Draggyy]

it does. Or at least it should ...

still can you enlighten me why it sucks? anyone? help a newbie mage to decide his future

[Linazz]

correct me if i am wrong but domination dont work on PVP

it does. Or at least it should ...

[FlamingSouls]

but... but 10% extra damage for 5 rounds in pve seems a lot. I mean in spire/tok/mpd(boss) 4 players dealings 10% for 5 turns especially if they use their special sounds good for 25 rage when you have pve set...4 X 5(turns) x 10% = 200% right?
And in team arena before so many aoes doesn;t seem that bad either. So can anyone details why it is so bad?and what should I choose instead?

correct me if i am wrong but domination dont work on PVP

[Draggyy]

waste points on damnation you gonna regret it for all of your life..xD ofc it sucks,under lv50 can be good sometimes but after that it just sucks worst skill ever lol xD

but... but 10% extra damage for 5 rounds in pve seems a lot. I mean in spire/tok/mpd(boss) 4 players dealings 10% for 5 turns especially if they use their special sounds good for 25 rage when you have pve set...4 X 5(turns) x 10% = 200% right?
And in team arena before so many aoes doesn;t seem that bad either. So can anyone details why it is so bad?and what should I choose instead?

[S44-ZEREF]

and here I wanted to go with the damnation at lvl 70+, but it seems no one likes it lol. Does it sucks so much?

waste points on damnation you gonna regret it for all of your life..xD ofc it sucks,under lv50 can be good sometimes but after that it just sucks worst skill ever lol xD

[Draggyy]

My tree will look similar at 80v
1st max bl and th,meteor 3/4 for mpd wb and spire
2 max bl and meteor for ga...
And both mixed for bg^^

and here I wanted to go with the damnation at lvl 70+, but it seems no one likes it lol. Does it sucks so much?