Fire Sylph Skills Explained - Check here with images

[jamesbacmon]

hey guys finally i got the place to find the fire sylph's skills

check this

http://*************.blogspot.in/2014/01/fire-sylphs-skills-explained-with-images.html

[Setsuna88]

Str/Int for your Iris? How abt End?

sry i should have made this clear: all int for matk pets, all str for patk pets. i thought its obvious :P
end is fine but i prefer atk. only end increases your char's BR but str/int also makes your sylph attacks stronger when unawakened, and the dmg/def it adds to your sylph will get added to your char when you awaken.

[Wraithraiser]

Str/Int for your Iris? How abt End?

All int for Iris, more Int more matk, more matk more healing. End is an option if you don't really care for sylph arena as it gives a boost to your toon but even so it comes with a decrease in healing since lower matk so its a double edged sword

[yinsw]

never put points in armor for your sylph. in fact you gain even more pdef form str and more mdef from int than from armor cause of the higher aptitude. id go str/int all the way.

Str/Int for your Iris? How abt End?

[RoyalD-BaDBoYz]

thnx for this :-)

[Setsuna88]

never put points in armor for your sylph. in fact you gain even more pdef form str and more mdef from int than from armor cause of the higher aptitude. id go str/int all the way.

[mageheal50]

Wow awesome discovery. No one has ever mentioned that def of sylph get's added to awaken form stats. The results from your tests makes sense. Actually poison is 64% dmg, and formula is normally (atk-def)/2. 32% probably came from that.

the problem with armor stat, you only get half of the effect compared to str and int. You get half of it bcz it will split into mdef and pdef of sylph
PATK = .0018 * Strength * STR Aptitude
PDEF = .0009 * (Armor * ARM Aptitude + Strength * STR Aptitude)
MATK = .0018 * Intellect * INT Aptitude
MDEF = .0009 * (Armor * ARM Aptitude + Intellect * INT Aptitude)

9 vs 18. So it is still your choice if you wanna use your stats points on armor or str/int

[Setsuna88]

I read the stats of sylph and its conversion rate and there is no explanation or any prove that PDF or MDF of the character are transferred when you awaken your sylph. You on the other hand say that there is so prove it. You also design the experiment wrong. Each experiment has to prove a hypothesis so where is your hypothesis.

as you wish XD

my hypothesis is that sylph defense get's added to your character's defense while awakened.
to proof this i used the archerskill poison arrow. the good thing about this skill is that it's bleed damage depends on atk and defense but doesn't vary like other skills (no 90-110% damage range). so it will always hit for the same damage as long as both player's atk and def remains unchanged.
in my case i first used a lvl 1 white iris with 8 pdef. while i was in normal form, the poison effect hit me for exactly 1200 damage. my character's pdef was 15342, the archer's patk was 19093. after i changed to sylph form i noticed that the poison damage dropped to only 1197. it should be pretty obvious that this is due to the 8pdef from my sylph being added to my character. but to make sure i tested it again with a lvl 80 blue iris with 1587 pdef. now the poison damage further dropped to 692.

now lets look at these values:
in normal form the difference between my enemy's patk and my pdef was 19093 - 15342 = 3751. poison damage was 1200, which is 32% of that difference. (note: the game uses the difference between atk and enemy defense for it's damage formula)
now let's assume that 100% of my pet's defense was added in sylph form. with my blue iris this should give me 16929 pdef. the difference between enemy's atk and my def is now 2164. poison damage was 692, which is again 32%.
this should prove that defense in sylph form is the sum of your character's and sylph's defense.

[R211563703]

I read the stats of sylph and its conversion rate and there is no explanation or any prove that PDF or MDF of the character are transferred when you awaken your sylph. You on the other hand say that there is so prove it. You also design the experiment wrong. Each experiment has to prove a hypothesis so where is your hypothesis.

[Setsuna88]

What does this prove Setsuna?

you will see that your character's defense matters too while awakened, or else you would take more damage with the defense of only a lvl 1 sylph. afaik defense of your character and sylph gets added.

also you could try a lvl 1 pan and lvl 1 iris against some other iris or pan to test resistances. for example iris has 125 water resistance while pan has only 25, so you should take much more damage from another iris if you are using pan. but even without testing im pretty sure that this is not the case. (im talking about pvp fights with both players awakened here)

[R212359287]

... SO you will never destroy them, if they are at the same level. Yes these two sylph are great for WB and in some areas of GB other than that it depends which sylph will they meet in CW or in the arena.

S4
IS the same dude when you awake your sylph all the characteristics of the sylph are transferred.

idk about that my blue iris solo'd a blue apollo + 2 green iris's in sylph arena just last night.

[R211563703]

What does this prove Setsuna?

[Setsuna88]

take a white lvl 1 sylph and see if you take more damage from any attack after u awaken... it should prove you wrong

[R211563703]

When sylph is awaken only attack and hp are added all other characteristic are the characteristic of the sylph. So where do you guys see that PDF and MDF has any influence on the sylph stats when it is awaken lol.

The sylph attacks are added to the MATK (if the hero class is Mage) or PATK (if the hero class is Knight or Archer) of the player. The Sylph HP and the character HP are interwoven. Awakened attacks are controlled by the player. When an Awakened sylph first appears, they will emit a wave of energy that damages all enemies. So where does it say that Å*DF or MDF is transferred into Sylph when awaken ?

This is from WIKI site

To put it simple when you awake your sylph you are strong as your sylph into which you transfer with its weaknesses except for attack power and HP.

[S44-ZEREF]

if there is an hide posts button someone show to me?