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Important info regarding sylphs before you pick your new ones.

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  • Important info regarding sylphs before you pick your new ones.

    Hey guys,

    I did some testing on sylph's to get ready for the patch and to clear up some rumors regarding how they work and what buffs do effect them.

    http://jackos24-wartune.blogspot.ca/

    Hope this helps with your choices :P and GL on Patch and CW all.

  • Medae
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  • mageheal50
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    ^theory #2

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  • bakuryuuha
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    Originally posted by FinalHC View Post
    While if it is true, it would make sense and would not be OP as all classes can do it just that differing dmg type classes + slyph would require both types of pots/scrolls. An example would be an knight using a pan which both share the same type of atk which is patk. the patk pot+patk scroll would affect both the knights base patk prior to transferring it to the pan. The pan would then receive the added damage of the pot+scroll on its patk.

    Where as a mage with a pan would get a pre-awaken matk bonus from a matk pot/scroll which gets transfered over to the pan which is patk. Then that new patk stat on pan would receive a bonus from the patk pot+scroll

    In a nutshell if this proves to be true.... then..

    If one class chooses a slyph of differing atk types they will be required to use both types of pots+scrolls to receive the same damage bonus as ones that use the same damage type with that specific atk type pot+scroll.

    Edit:
    To show this in a more equation based form:

    For a MAtk Hero with a PAtk type slyph:

    Awakened_Patk = [[(MAtkHero+ MAtkPot) (1+MatkScroll) + Slyph PAtkBase] + (PAtkPot)] (1+PatkScroll)

    For a PAtk Hero with a PAtk type slyph:

    Awakened_Patk = [[(PAtkHero+ PAtkPot) (1+PatkScroll) + Slyph PAtkBase] + (PAtkPot)] (1+PatkScroll)
    Hmm..had no idea scrolls n pots affect sylphs. They seem to me to only buff the player stats itself and not the sylph so any bonus transferred is only from the player stats side, but maybe you did manage to dig up some evidence showing this is true??

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  • zlolub
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    i think sylph use all attack,patk+matk

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  • FinalHC
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    Originally posted by ancev View Post
    Hmmm so a pot or a scroll that increases your lowest attack value (p atack in a mage) which isn't added to the awakened form,will still increase the damage for your awakened form(pan form)
    So basically :
    Pan total atack power = mage m atack +pan p atack + p atack pot+p atack scroll.
    If this is true it seems kind of OP. I am always using both types of pots for battles but never tried using both types of scrolls.
    While if it is true, it would make sense and would not be OP as all classes can do it just that differing dmg type classes + slyph would require both types of pots/scrolls. An example would be an knight using a pan which both share the same type of atk which is patk. the patk pot+patk scroll would affect both the knights base patk prior to transferring it to the pan. The pan would then receive the added damage of the pot+scroll on its patk.

    Where as a mage with a pan would get a pre-awaken matk bonus from a matk pot/scroll which gets transfered over to the pan which is patk. Then that new patk stat on pan would receive a bonus from the patk pot+scroll

    In a nutshell if this proves to be true.... then..

    If one class chooses a slyph of differing atk types they will be required to use both types of pots+scrolls to receive the same damage bonus as ones that use the same damage type with that specific atk type pot+scroll.

    Edit:
    To show this in a more equation based form:

    For a MAtk Hero with a PAtk type slyph:

    Awakened_Patk = [[(MAtkHero+ MAtkPot) (1+MatkScroll) + Slyph PAtkBase] + (PAtkPot)] (1+PatkScroll)

    For a PAtk Hero with a PAtk type slyph:

    Awakened_Patk = [[(PAtkHero+ PAtkPot) (1+PatkScroll) + Slyph PAtkBase] + (PAtkPot)] (1+PatkScroll)
    Last edited by FinalHC; 01-21-2014, 11:05 AM. Reason: Added equation

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  • Setsuna88
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    i think he should test this again... i did and i noticed a change in my sylph's damage using the pot/scroll for my class (patk for knight with iris) but not with matk pot/scroll like it said in his blog.

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  • ancev
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    Originally posted by Lorisnor View Post
    and with that example, since awaken form is using patk now, the buffs (mainly patk buffs) are applied to pan's patk hence making attacks more powerful.

    P.S. I have no idea if this is true or not. Its just my understanding of Jeckos' statement.
    Hmmm so a pot or a scroll that increases your lowest attack value (p atack in a mage) which isn't added to the awakened form,will still increase the damage for your awakened form(pan form)
    So basically :
    Pan total atack power = mage m atack +pan p atack + p atack pot+p atack scroll.
    If this is true it seems kind of OP. I am always using both types of pots for battles but never tried using both types of scrolls.

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  • Lorisnor
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    Originally posted by ancev View Post
    explain in details please cause it makes absolutely no sense to me:
    a) how can you apply a pot or a scroll after character awakening (during combat basically)
    b) what do reformed stats mean
    As to my understanding of what Jeckos meant,
    a) You can't.
    b) reformed stats means your main stats change when you awaken (e.g. mage's main stat is matk but it change to patk when mages awakens into pan)

    and with that example, since awaken form is using patk now, the buffs (mainly patk buffs) are applied to pan's patk hence making attacks more powerful.

    P.S. I have no idea if this is true or not. Its just my understanding of Jeckos' statement.

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  • ancev
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    Originally posted by Jackos24 View Post
    Depends if buffs like (stat buffs) are reapplied after character awakening. (as stats are reformed (ie. mage & Pan)
    explain in details please cause it makes absolutely no sense to me:
    a) how can you apply a pot or a scroll after character awakening (during combat basically)
    b) what do reformed stats mean

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  • Jackos24
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    Originally posted by ancev View Post
    if sylph uses highest attack stat, buffing the lower attack stat seems pretty useless, and hence theory 1 and 2 are in contradiction
    Depends if buffs like (stat buffs) are reapplied after character awakening. (as stats are reformed (ie. mage & Pan)

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  • MARKANHRVATxdXD
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    Good job.. =)

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  • ancev
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    Originally posted by Jackos24
    Nnot if the pots and scrolls are applied directly to the current target player. Ie The way sylphs gain buffs like the Apollo's absorption sheild
    if sylph uses highest attack stat, buffing the lower attack stat seems pretty useless, and hence theory 1 and 2 are in contradiction

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  • Jackos24
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    Originally posted by danotz View Post
    JACKO,GET NAKED!please
    I would have last night, but had a call and didn't get back to the fire hall till after 7am.

    Originally posted by mageheal50 View Post
    theory #1 and theory #2 just contradicts each other.
    Nnot if the pots and scrolls are applied directly to the current target player. Ie The way sylphs gain buffs like the Apollo's absorption sheild
    Last edited by EsmeWeatherwax; 01-21-2014, 04:13 AM. Reason: Merge double post

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  • danotz
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    JACKO,GET NAKED!please

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