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  • #31
    yea i personal keep 3 silph now. got gaia, iris n hades .. can't drop under 25 in silph arena.. all usefool
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    no purpose or place.
    we have no great war,
    no great depression.
    our great war is a spiritual war
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    • #32
      all are blue.. but now i gonna focus on hades . think hades realy good choise ..
      we're the midle children of history ....
      no purpose or place.
      we have no great war,
      no great depression.
      our great war is a spiritual war
      our great depression is our lives.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bakuryuuha View Post
        Since when is AQ delphic dmg equal to Gaia? I don't recall 440% = 470% ....am I missing something here?
        since when mages have more mdef then pdef maybe?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Filfiljuma View Post
          Simply you are stupid.
          Mage Sylphs =
          Emperor Queen [PATK]
          Hades [PATK]

          Iris is only good for if your a solo mage healing in mpds.

          Gaia is purely a PATK player sylph, sylphs aren't here for huge stats for us, they are here to do what we can't, and a mage with patk sylph is fun
          yea whell i try aq n hades on WB but no good- Gaia gives me 2 mil gold without mail .. and iris all players should have it
          we're the midle children of history ....
          no purpose or place.
          we have no great war,
          no great depression.
          our great war is a spiritual war
          our great depression is our lives.

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          • #35
            I may be missing something, but how does it make sense for a mage to acquire/use a sylph whose effectiveness depends on you to boosting your PATK skill? To me that sounds like it is ideal for archers/knights. Mages don't waste time with PATK, so this doesn't add up for me. I'm not saying I have all the answers on this. I'm still trying to decide whether or not to go after Apollo or Hades. My Iris has proven quite useful in boosting my HP and healing skills, so the people saying it is useless don't know what they're talking about. I am willing to concede that it may not be the best for a mage, but definitely not useless.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by R244903261 View Post
              I may be missing something, but how does it make sense for a mage to acquire/use a sylph whose effectiveness depends on you to boosting your PATK skill? To me that sounds like it is ideal for archers/knights. Mages don't waste time with PATK, so this doesn't add up for me. I'm not saying I have all the answers on this. I'm still trying to decide whether or not to go after Apollo or Hades. My Iris has proven quite useful in boosting my HP and healing skills, so the people saying it is useless don't know what they're talking about. I am willing to concede that it may not be the best for a mage, but definitely not useless.
              Gaia and Amazon give atk as stat boost, that means both PATK as MATK, so Amazon gives both matk as patk (5%), and gaia gives both matk and patk as well.

              Wether apollo or hades, both are well (from what ive heaerd). but Hades is new, meaning he's more expensive now than apollo. the next events they should be equally priced. therefore making apollo a cheaper, and somewhat better option to buy on short term. like i said, both are good and it depends who you want, but atm hades is overpriced cz its new, if you want him i suggest you wait few events

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              • #37
                Originally posted by R244903261 View Post
                I may be missing something
                i'd say you're missing a BIG THING

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by R244903261 View Post
                  I may be missing something, but how does it make sense for a mage to acquire/use a sylph whose effectiveness depends on you to boosting your PATK skill? To me that sounds like it is ideal for archers/knights. Mages don't waste time with PATK, so this doesn't add up for me. I'm not saying I have all the answers on this. I'm still trying to decide whether or not to go after Apollo or Hades. My Iris has proven quite useful in boosting my HP and healing skills, so the people saying it is useless don't know what they're talking about. I am willing to concede that it may not be the best for a mage, but definitely not useless.
                  Regardless of the type of damage a sylph does (Magic or Physical) it's stats are based on the USER. This means when a mage uses Amazon Queen the BASE damage formula [(Atk-Def)/2]+/-10% Uses their Matk stat and the PDef stat of their opponent since it coincides with the DAMAGE type of the attack.
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                  • #39
                    Well if u want to be good against mage choose patk sylph like aq hades or pan,if u want to be good against knights/archers choose matk sylph like iris,gaia or Apollo

                    knights/archer low mdef while mages low pdef

                    clearly better to counter 2 classes than 1

                    I have taken gaia later when transformation comes have skill that can lower mdef 30% so mages will be vulnerable,also very promising in spire,wb,necro because of high dmg(fast clear of spire/necro bosses)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by senadbasic View Post
                      Well if u want to be good against mage choose patk sylph like aq hades or pan,if u want to be good against knights/archers choose matk sylph like iris,gaia or Apollo

                      knights/archer low mdef while mages low pdef

                      clearly better to counter 2 classes than 1

                      I have taken gaia later when transformation comes have skill that can lower mdef 30% so mages will be vulnerable,also very promising in spire,wb,necro because of high dmg(fast clear of spire/necro bosses)
                      Archer have balanced pdef and mdef, so if you use a patk sylph, you also counter 2 classes - archers and mages.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Kingryan View Post
                        Archer have balanced pdef and mdef, so if you use a patk sylph, you also counter 2 classes - archers and mages.
                        I've never seen an archer with higher MDEF than PDEF
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                        • #42
                          What happened to sylph damage ignoring defenses and being undodgeable? Shouldn't sylph damage just pass through any kind of defense and deal full dmg directly to the HP of the enemy?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by MolochMage View Post
                            I've never seen an archer with higher MDEF than PDEF
                            you dont meet many archers i guess

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Kingryan View Post
                              Archer have balanced pdef and mdef, so if you use a patk sylph, you also counter 2 classes - archers and mages.
                              almost true when I look archer at rankings every single one of em have higher pdef than mdef,if u think I lie look at server 163 where I am all have higher pdef 2k+

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