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    First of all I have the question if there is a correlation between BR and critical chance, as in, do you need more Critical if you have more BR in order to crit as often, or is this just an unsubstantiated rumor? Are there any hard facts on the subject?

    Second, if this is indeed the case, would it be meaningful to intentionally lower your BR by equipping astrals that give none and gems that give little? I am thinking a configuration for a level 70 as this:

    Mysticality/Force, Sniper's, Determination, Goddess, Illusion, Guardian Angel, Deflection

    Gems: Crit, Block, MATK, HP

    Am I crazy?
    Last edited by MolochMage; 03-18-2014, 03:41 AM.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by MolochMage View Post
    First of all I have the question if there is a correlation between BR and critical chance, as in, do you need more Critical if you have more BR in order to crit as often, or is this just an unsubstianted rumor? Are there any hard facts on the subject?

    Second, if this is indeed the case, would it be meaningful to intentionally lower your BR by equipping astrals that give none and gems that give little? I am thinking a configuration for a level 70 as this:

    Mysticality/Force, Sniper's, Determination, Goddess, Illusion, Guardian Angel, Deflection

    Gems: Crit, Block, MATK, HP

    Am I crazy?
    Gems: Crit,Charisma,Matk and HP instead.
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    • #3
      the chance to crit seems to be linked more to level of your toon then to your br. I did test a bit with crit trigger% in wb (takes away any results that may vary from crit restiance astral etc) and found out that as a knight at level 64 every critpoint translated to 0,036% trigger rate so 2k crit= 72% trigger rate. upping it to 3k didnt make it crit 100% but it always seems to cap at around 80% when my toon turned level 69 1 crit point was only good for 0,032% so 2 k only 64% both percentages where taken from keeping track of 2000 induvidual attacks . I do fully realise that the formula is incomplete first 500 crit points will have higher impact then lets say the 1500 to 2k points and that it isnt a simple case of amount of crit times 0,0??% but its just what i noticed from a practical test.

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      • #4
        I am an archer with BR over 110k.

        From what i can surmise BR is a factor in Crit, however not as many are thinking and not as i thought. your BR does not metter in Crit, i believe its the opponents BR or more likely Def stats that are the deciding factor in Crit chance.

        You might see it easily in lower lvl dungeons, you will have much higher chance Crit there then in higher lvl ones.

        So i think that the higher Def stats your opponent have the higher Crit you need.

        Last thing, look at WB - very low def and you do a lot of Crit.

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        • #5
          crit rate can never be 100%

          but i heard it was about 10% chance per 1000 crit level

          2 things that factor crit is
          guardian angel astral (i keep one handy for class wars)
          and your opponents crit

          if your opponents crit is higher than yours it has the same effect as a guardian angel astral

          it will make your crit rate lower

          in my experience br only adds if the br added is crit

          level is a factor for archers too, im pretty sure they get extra crit per level
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          • #6
            i have low BR, high level, 53k BR @ Lv 70. i have 2700 crit atm, and all i can say, it's only good for WB.

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            • #7
              I'm around 140k br and running 7,5k crit, that being said all my testing points to the fact that your crit rate is connected to your BR.
              I took out my block astral and HP with the same oponents (guildies) and my crit rates increased.
              After that test I completely forgot all block or hp astrals in order to lower the br, replacing them with deflection and dodge.
              As said above the relation between your atk and your oponentes def is a factor and so is both crit points and the use or not of the crit reducing astral.
              A lot of factos are involved when calculating crit rates.
              For now I got about 80% in WB and 70% in pvp.

              Hope the info helps you taking your decisions.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MolochMage View Post
                First of all I have the question if there is a correlation between BR and critical chance, as in, do you need more Critical if you have more BR in order to crit as often, or is this just an unsubstantiated rumor? Are there any hard facts on the subject?

                Second, if this is indeed the case, would it be meaningful to intentionally lower your BR by equipping astrals that give none and gems that give little? I am thinking a configuration for a level 70 as this:

                Mysticality/Force, Sniper's, Determination, Goddess, Illusion, Guardian Angel, Deflection

                Gems: Crit, Block, MATK, HP

                Am I crazy?
                What astrals? What gems lol?

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                • #9
                  BR definitely is one of the factors. However, it would be beneficial to limit the stats you modify to useful stats such as matk, mdef, pdef and hp and crit stats in modifying your br to improve crit rate. If you have about 6 - 8k crit stat with a 140 - 150k br, you should crit pretty often.
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                  • #10
                    From my testing etc, BR is a factor..and what making up that BR is a factor also.

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                    • #11
                      One last thing I forgot, as a mage if you use a critical reduce astral it will kill your oportunities of getting critical heals, and they're very handy sometimes...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JBirdie View Post
                        One last thing I forgot, as a mage if you use a critical reduce astral it will kill your oportunities of getting critical heals, and they're very handy sometimes...
                        How will it kill your own crits? thought crit reduce is for when you are attacked :S
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DeathTh3Kid View Post
                          How will it kill your own crits? thought crit reduce is for when you are attacked :S
                          I think he's referring to will destroyer which isn't really a crit reduce but a crit disable...
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                          • #14
                            Enhanced Guardian Angel only reduces the chance of getting crit (damage) on u
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bakuryuuha View Post
                              I think he's referring to will destroyer which isn't really a crit reduce but a crit disable...
                              I don't think he is. The other things he said points to him being aware about what he is talking about.

                              Guardian Angel reduces the chance to receive crit. Does it then also reduce the chance to "receive" critical heal?
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