I tank for Our spire we get to 20 only so far. I use 3 archers also. I wish I had a knight with high br cuz then wed have the perfect team. ! good mage 1 good knight and 2 so so archers is what I need. But I agree eli higher br knights do mass dmg and are tough so ive seen. So no clue why ppl freaking on this post but wow guess they want to cry and whine about something always or wouldn't be r2 forums. We cry on every post and rant rave when we don't get free things lol enjoy the game and suck it up...
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I out-damage my team's archers on most days. They vulcan crit 600-900k while my top is 1-1.2mil *both on gaia delphic. Same BR.
Archers have it easy in most things, but not like knights can't compete with the DPS at high enough BR, and with advanced skills and deep freeze thrasher knights will be all the more useful for just about everything.
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Pfft, real classes arent even Archer>Knight>Mage anymore.. It's Gaia/Apollo/Hades now XD (dat joke <3)
With sylph, all class have the same potential dps when awakened, and I'm 90% sure you allocated all your stats in Str or Int x)
We cry on every post and rant rave when we don't get free things lol enjoy the game and suck it up...
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Originally posted by Wraithraiser View PostI out-damage my team's archers on most days. They vulcan crit 600-900k while my top is 1-1.2mil *both on gaia delphic. Same BR.
Archers have it easy in most things, but not like knights can't compete with the DPS at high enough BR, and with advanced skills and deep freeze thrasher knights will be all the more useful for just about everything.Originally posted by TheVictoriousIs this "soon" like additional spot in farm or homestead? :POriginally posted by PunkPetalDid same to me, is embarrassing when u tthrow everything but the kitchen sink, and they sit casting rofOriginally posted by EdGrrA life of frustration is inevitable for any player whose main enjoyment is winning and staying at the top.
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Originally posted by Caballero1321 View PostIt's not that people disagree with the statement, that knights aren't best in Sky Trail / Necro.
The thing is, knights are way better than archers in PvP. Archers are way better that knights in PvE. If you want to dominate PvE just get an archer.
Other example: don't expect from a huge truck to have great acceleration.
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Originally posted by Wraithraiser View PostI out-damage my team's archers on most days. They vulcan crit 600-900k while my top is 1-1.2mil *both on gaia delphic. Same BR.
Archers have it easy in most things, but not like knights can't compete with the DPS at high enough BR, and with advanced skills and deep freeze thrasher knights will be all the more useful for just about everything.
I'll give you an example, ok let's say you have a knight who can cast DF, cool, but he won't be able to cast damage reduction( apollo is NOT good as it wastes time and you need DAMAGE or you will die anyway), as a result there will be a span of time when the enemy will be attacking with his full 100% power which is just not good ofc as mages will need to heal more and they won't be able to damage the guy( without damage they will die ofc), the big PDEF which knights have, will be of no use when the enemies will buff up and start hitting for 1000k. So won't it be a much better choice to take two archers instead just to keep IS and DF on for the whole duration of the fight?? not to mention that archers are bulkier while facing MATK enemies.
The question is the same, WHY take knights when you can have that nice IS and DF combo, 30% reduced damage is much better than having a massive PDEF, not to mention taking that archer will guarantee a better DPT( talking on an average here, don't start saying that my delphic does x damage while archers do x/2).
If you don't believe me then just check out the CN sq91wan.com videos archieve( on the bottom left i think), every single team has 2 archers and 2 mages for the new PvE event which they have got, so sad considering the knights are the top 3 cross server BR there.
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostYeah knights will get a skill which slows down enemies, but still they will REMAIN trash, because archers also have IS, this ability of being able to rotate IS and DF with two archers is the main reason why knights suck at just about every PvE event.
I'll give you an example, ok let's say you have a knight who can cast DF, cool, but he won't be able to cast damage reduction( apollo is NOT good as it wastes time and you need DAMAGE or you will die anyway), as a result there will be a span of time when the enemy will be attacking with his full 100% power which is just not good ofc as mages will need to heal more and they won't be able to damage the guy( without damage they will die ofc), the big PDEF which knights have, will be of no use when the enemies will buff up and start hitting for 1000k. So won't it be a much better choice to take two archers instead just to keep IS and DF on for the whole duration of the fight?? not to mention that archers are bulkier while facing MATK enemies.
The question is the same, WHY take knights when you can have that nice IS and DF combo, 30% reduced damage is much better than having a massive PDEF, not to mention taking that archer will guarantee a better DPT( talking on an average here, don't start saying that my delphic does x damage while archers do x/2).
If you don't believe me then just check out the CN sq91wan.com videos archieve( on the bottom left i think), every single team has 2 archers and 2 mages for the new PvE event which they have got, so sad considering the knights are the top 3 cross server BR there.
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Originally posted by Alinshinoby View Postfirst off all knights do not have only higher pdef but also mostly higher mdef than archer. also as a knight myself i dont care about your opinion, but i feel frustrated to see you in every post calling knights trash. yes i understand you hate knights, yes i understand you cant play a knight, but that do not gives you the right to call every single knight trash just because of your personal opinion. if your knight its trash and you cant play it do not means that every last one of us its like you. also evan if we are weak in pve, and every aspect of the game ( from what imply) i still love my char, and i consider it funnyer to play and ill never give my knight for a mage or archer char of same or higher br. everything in this game its against knights? fine then, i will play my own way and brake the limitations. we are not weak, we just have to think outside the box, and not listen to every frustrated person how since forever complains about knights because he was weak and lost
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Originally posted by kattuktk View Postbut i have to accept the huge limitations knights come with, it's us knights' duty to let them be known, we should not turn a blind eye towards itTHERE IS NO JUSTICE, THERE'S JUST ME.
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostMy knight is weak? It can most probably one shoot your knight out bro, my knight is not weak at all, but i have to accept the huge limitations knights come with, it's us knights' duty to let them be known, we should not turn a blind eye towards it
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Originally posted by Alinshinoby View Posti think we put these on ourself, not the game
Just like daunapu said, I have been playing knights since day 1 of WT and so i have developed an emotional attachment to it, but it doesn't mean that i "just suck at it" or "don't know how to play" when i say what are facts, these are the problems which should be addressed.Last edited by kattuktk; 06-19-2014, 10:00 AM.
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Originally posted by kattuktk View PostYeah knights will get a skill which slows down enemies, but still they will REMAIN trash, because archers also have IS, this ability of being able to rotate IS and DF with two archers is the main reason why knights suck at just about every PvE event.
I'll give you an example, ok let's say you have a knight who can cast DF, cool, but he won't be able to cast damage reduction( apollo is NOT good as it wastes time and you need DAMAGE or you will die anyway), as a result there will be a span of time when the enemy will be attacking with his full 100% power which is just not good ofc as mages will need to heal more and they won't be able to damage the guy( without damage they will die ofc), the big PDEF which knights have, will be of no use when the enemies will buff up and start hitting for 1000k. So won't it be a much better choice to take two archers instead just to keep IS and DF on for the whole duration of the fight?? not to mention that archers are bulkier while facing MATK enemies.
The question is the same, WHY take knights when you can have that nice IS and DF combo, 30% reduced damage is much better than having a massive PDEF, not to mention taking that archer will guarantee a better DPT( talking on an average here, don't start saying that my delphic does x damage while archers do x/2).
If you don't believe me then just check out the CN sq91wan.com videos archieve( on the bottom left i think), every single team has 2 archers and 2 mages for the new PvE event which they have got, so sad considering the knights are the top 3 cross server BR there.
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Originally posted by Elitank View Postobviously kattukk doesn't fully understand the role of knights in pve. they are made to tank. knights by nature have passive defensive ability and also passive hp boost and also bonus in healing, which in turns make them a perfect candidate to tank in any pve environment. Yes there are high end archers that happen to be extreme cashers out there and are able to tank and dps also. If we take into consideration on the large non casher players who does lv 80 nightmare mp, the best group to complete the dungeon would require a knight for tanking.
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