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  • Does more critical mean more damage ?

    Not talking about the determination, I have 6100 Critical and Another knight on my server just 1K br lower have 6900 Critical , we have same Determination Level but we do different damage when critical, Is it that a 2K Critical do less damage and 6K do more with same PATK, (Non Sylph Mode, I know res-red and other fact play imp role in sylph mode) but we taking about non sylph mode, Just say If both Knight (2K critical and 6K ) Do Ultimate slasher, will the damage be same ?
    I'm Cupcaked ! My Account got hacked and some cupcaker sold every thing. Blah !!!
    and R2 Not helping with restoring the account. Sweet, This is what i put tons of money here .

  • #2
    No.

    Ultimate Slasher - talent
    Damage - Max and Min
    Res works in non-sylph mode also duh

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    • #3
      No. You will need to post the patk of both of you (BR can simply be inflated by matk stats, etc, so it's not a measure of the damage you should make). Depends on each opponent pdef. Depends on medallions. Depends on normal floating damage. Depends on talent level.

      Lots of things feed into it. But (as far as I've always known) crit is just the stat which helps you get a crit to process in the first place.
      Lvl 80 Crit Mage, 298K BR, Aegis ***** G.M. Hells-Gate

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      • #4
        On topic:
        Critical stat affects ONLY your crit rate. Has nothing to do with damage.
        Damage is affected by what other people said (Reduce RES, PATK, Ignore PDEF and so on).

        All resistances DO work in non-sylph mode as well.
        BR can't be a measure of damage dealt. You can have 10k BR higher and still deal the same damage amount.
        Last edited by TheGuardingDark; 06-20-2014, 07:35 AM. Reason: Language.

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        • #5
          i tested this once. there was no change in damage of your crits after changing the crit value.

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          • #6
            And Thanks all for clearing it out, there was different between the u.slasher critical mine was like 96K his was 102K , tested few times , same result, I'm taking for PVE - Hope they don't have PATK Resistance, thanks anyway, its same mystery as the critical rate and block rate.
            Last edited by TheGuardingDark; 06-20-2014, 07:35 AM.
            I'm Cupcaked ! My Account got hacked and some cupcaker sold every thing. Blah !!!
            and R2 Not helping with restoring the account. Sweet, This is what i put tons of money here .

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jamesbacmon View Post
              And Thanks all for clearing it out, there was different between the u.slasher critical mine was like 96K his was 102K , tested few times , same result, I'm taking for PVE - Hope they don't have PATK Resistance, thanks anyway, its same mystery as the critical rate and block rate.
              thats from the talent, tbh best knight talent
              THERE IS NO JUSTICE, THERE'S JUST ME.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jamesbacmon View Post
                Not talking about the determination, I have 6100 Critical and Another knight on my server just 1K br lower have 6900 Critical , we have same Determination Level but we do different damage when critical, Is it that a 2K Critical do less damage and 6K do more with same PATK, (Non Sylph Mode, I know res-red and other fact play imp role in sylph mode) but we taking about non sylph mode, Just say If both Knight (2K critical and 6K ) Do Ultimate slasher, will the damage be same ?
                Yes, critical value has infulance on critical rate and critical dmg value. I've check it too and im sure about it.
                I increased crit value from 5k to 8.5k and i could clearly see the difference.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TAYNIAK View Post
                  Yes, critical value has infulance on critical rate and critical dmg value. I've check it too and im sure about it.
                  I increased crit value from 5k to 8.5k and i could clearly see the difference.
                  I'm sure damage has nothing to do with crit value.
                  Will do tests as soon as I get back home to provide data.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TAYNIAK View Post
                    Yes, critical value has infulance on critical rate and critical dmg value. I've check it too and im sure about it.
                    I increased crit value from 5k to 8.5k and i could clearly see the difference.
                    crit rate yes, obviously. but crit damage?
                    try testing it against the same mob. use a low-cd skill (or auto attack) and write down all the dmg numbers you see until you wont see any "new" numbers anymore. thats because there are only about 20 different possible values if all variables are kept the same (in other words your damage gets rounded to 90%,91%,...,110% of your base/average damage). so once you know all these numbers, you change a critgem or astral and see if the numbers changed. for example if you use a str pot (int for mage) you would see completely different numbers, hence its safe to say that damage changed. when changing crit this should NOT be the case.
                    you can do the same to verify that int scrolls or pots do NOT increase gaia's sylphform damage for a knight/archer ...or other rumors we keep hearing.

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                    • #11
                      easiest way to test using an archer:

                      1. go to wilds, find a gold mine.
                      2. attack the mine with double shot(100% crit rate) with crit astral and gems equipped. write down the damage on your note.
                      3. abandon mine.
                      4. attack the mine with double shot(100% crit rate) without crit astral and gems equipped. write down the damage on your note.
                      5. abandon mine.
                      6. repeat step 2-5 until you gathered enough sample data.
                      Originally posted by Wraithraiser
                      Welcome to R2 forums. Where quality is nonexistent and quantity is only measured in the number of whines a single day can produce.

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                      • #12
                        I have cleaned this thread up. If you can't say anything nice, keep your mouth shut and your fingers still.
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                        • #13
                          Maybe test it against your own clone in summoner?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheGuardingDark View Post
                            I have cleaned this thread up. If you can't say anything nice, keep your mouth shut and your fingers still.
                            1. Just pointed out the truth. Nearly everyone can admit that an author of the thread regards himself as a specialist/veteran of Wartune and keeps creating numerous useless and silly whining/complaining threads.
                            2. Haven't used any bad word and you removed a paragraph for "language".
                            3. Please remove your post for "language". You used more bad language writing "keep your mouth shut" than I did.

                            Cheers

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TAYNIAK View Post
                              Yes, critical value has infulance on critical rate and critical dmg value. I've check it too and im sure about it.
                              I increased crit value from 5k to 8.5k and i could clearly see the difference.
                              I'm agree with you, when i put cirt gems in all set and used my red crit astral lvl 6 for first time i noticed my crit rate rised and my crit damage aswell.
                              I could not find info about how much % damge you do when crit, only crit rate... so it seems your crit stat stacks with your patk stat.
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