Crit Knight vs Crit Archer

[icesz]

about GA astral, i dont think it cut flat 50% rate on lvl 10, i think it cuts 50% of opponent's crit rate. so if the opponent has 50% crit rate for example, GA wll cut it to 25%.

but since we have no idea how crit stat works, no one can prove this theory.

if thats the case MS will always crit

[Arlad]

if thats the case MS will always crit

no one is saying the otherwise.

[icesz]

about GA astral, i dont think it cut flat 50% rate on lvl 10, i think it cuts 50% of opponent's crit rate. so if the opponent has 50% crit rate for example, GA wll cut it to 25%.

but since we have no idea how crit stat works, no one can prove this theory.

it cuts out the rate that will crit on u, even ur own heals if u're a mage

[Arlad]

it cuts out the rate that will crit on u, even ur own heals if u're a mage

well yeah, but that's not contradicting to what i said.
if GA astral has flat rate, mages with less than 50% crit rate(idk the exact number for the stat) would never land a crit heal at all.

[icesz]

well yeah, but that's not contradicting to what i said.
if GA astral has flat rate, mages with less than 50% crit rate(idk the exact number for the stat) would never land a crit heal at all.

most of those mages are still WD'd

[Arlad]

most of those mages are still WD'd

ok, now you just arguing for the sake of argument itself. no one here said anything about WD except you

[icesz]

ok, now you just arguing for the sake of argument itself. no one here said anything about WD except you

mages NEED high crit rate inorder to use that astral else it would be useless to use it as u gain less heal from it.....

[Arlad]

mages NEED high crit rate inorder to use that astral else it would be useless to use it as u gain less heal from it.....

i think you are confused. read the posts again from the start.
lets read this post again:

well yeah, but that's not contradicting to what i said.
if GA astral has flat rate, mages with less than 50% crit rate(idk the exact number for the stat) would never land a crit heal at all.

it said that if GA has flat rate, it will NULLIFY, not reducing the chance of crit heal if the mage has low crit rate.

[senadbasic]

lol if some1 has 20k crit that means his atk will be 6 digits and will kill u crit or not.....

I have 11000 crit and my dmg isn't any bigger I just crit often + im mage archers on that ith passive 20% would have much more

so I assumed dmg is not affected by crit stat at some point only by determination

and no my attack isn't 6 digits on player unless sylph delph and even them on most it isn't with 52k matk lvl 10 determination and 11k crit

[icesz]

I have 11000 crit and my dmg isn't any bigger I just crit often + im mage archers on that ith passive 20% would have much more

so I assumed dmg is not affected by crit stat at some point only by determination

and no my attack isn't 6 digits on player unless sylph delph and even them on most it isn't with 52k matk lvl 10 determination and 11k crit

u have too much crit in compare to ur matk, go raise ur matk instead of ur crit...

[senadbasic]

u have too much crit in compare to ur matk, go raise ur matk instead of ur crit...

I didn't sacrifice matk to rise crit its the way it is my matk got all lvl 8 matk gems and lvl 7 crit gems...but u are going in different subject was talking about crit dmg with crit stat

[Brutal_Hobo]

Thread: Crit Knight vs Crit Archer


damnit arlad, you've gone off topic again

[redav]

Knight will win in ease in pvp if he has block too with that critical.

[KS222]

knights have this 1 thing which archers can't compet which is their blocks and shield.. if an archer whom dun have enough dmg, it's just like hitting a rock. knight who choose crit to block gems is deadly.

Archers can deal with that easily, it's called SS. Or if archer doesn't want to bring SS, use Hades and buy Haunt skill for it (since many knights double shield before sylph round, allows archer to sylph up rather than try to tank sylph hits while staying untransformed to debuff knight).

[KS222]

if thats the case MS will always crit

From what I've seen, GA does not affect guaranteed crit skills or talents (MS and that talent that procs with AP and makes next hit guaranteed crit). I've tested this out extensively in solo arena. MS crit rate so far = 100% (expected since it's guaranteed crit). Talent crit rate so far = 100%.
The other results are too inconsistent to judge well; wanted a larger sample size, but unable to do so. Archers with 8-9k crit sometimes nuke me with all crits and sometimes can't crit me with anything but guaranteed crit skills/talents. I was making recordings and counting/tracking on spreadsheet, but the lag from the patch terminated my ability to do so. Now the game freezes when I try to record.