this is pointless, they won;t switch back to 4%, but would be nice to cap mages suntoria at 2k per turn.Maybe then they won't laugh anymore and will start whining like every other normal knight
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Originally posted by KS222 View PostIS is almost as slow as delphic to cast, but it has a shorter cooldown and archers have a talent to reduce that cooldown even more. So, it is more spammable than apollo shield.R2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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Originally posted by Kingryan View PostKnights get 20 percent more healing, and if a mage heal s a knight, another 8% (?) increased healing is added again. If it crit heals, then it is a very huge amount of heal.
But is this passive increased 20% healing of knights also affects the suntoria skill?
If knights got 26% heal every turn from mage's sun...that would be OP but really awesome in mps and would make knight/mage combo in arena very hard to beat =D
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Originally posted by danotz View Postthis is pointless, they won;t switch back to 4%, but would be nice to cap mages suntoria at 2k per turn.Maybe then they won't laugh anymore and will start whining like every other normal knightR2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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Originally posted by KS222 View PostFrom what I've seen, no, knights do not get increased heals from suntoria. Due to block heal giving knights incentive to have more hp, they always looked like they got more heal because it was 6% of a larger # than the rest of the group.
If knights got 26% heal every turn from mage's sun...that would be OP but really awesome in mps and would make knight/mage combo in arena very hard to beat =D
wow mage and knight no archer, should i make a whine thread about that?IGN/Server: Crusader Kabam 62
Class: Archer
Battle Rating: 275k (with herc br)
Guild: Black Lotus
Sylph: Hercules ★★ 46968
Originally posted by Wraithraiserbut yeah. Robo_Hobo for presidente
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Originally posted by KS222 View PostIS is almost as slow as delphic to cast, but it has a shorter cooldown and archers have a talent to reduce that cooldown even more. So, it is more spammable than apollo shield.
was it more spammable? remember that IS need 65 rage while apollo needs 45 and archer's rage gain is worse than knights, so each skill has their own benefit.Originally posted by Wraithraiser
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Originally posted by Arlad View Posti never said the otherwise. read my post, i only protested the part where he said IS is faster to cast. and apollo even have shorter animation time.
was it more spammable? remember that IS need 65 rage while apollo needs 45 and archer's rage gain is worse than knights, so each skill has their own benefit.THERE IS NO JUSTICE, THERE'S JUST ME.
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Originally posted by KS222 View PostFrom what I've seen, no, knights do not get increased heals from suntoria. Due to block heal giving knights incentive to have more hp, they always looked like they got more heal because it was 6% of a larger # than the rest of the group.
If knights got 26% heal every turn from mage's sun...that would be OP but really awesome in mps and would make knight/mage combo in arena very hard to beat =D
Originally posted by daunapu View Postapollo can be scattered, IS cant and does ok damage
IS deals OK damage, i give you that. then again like what i said it's because it has higher rage cost. if you really envied it, send a petition so IS will only debuff without dealing damage, but with lower rage cost.
Originally posted by icesz View Postrage gain doesnt matter , i can get my rage back b4 the cd is gone....Last edited by Arlad; 08-21-2014, 04:23 AM.Originally posted by Wraithraiser
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Originally posted by Arlad View Posti never said the otherwise. read my post, i only protested the part where he said IS is faster to cast. and apollo even have shorter animation time.
was it more spammable? remember that IS need 65 rage while apollo needs 45 and archer's rage gain is worse than knights, so each skill has their own benefit.R2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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Originally posted by daunapu View Postapollo can be scattered, IS cant and does ok damageR2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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Originally posted by danotz View Postthis is pointless, they won;t switch back to 4%, but would be nice to cap mages suntoria at 2k per turn.Maybe then they won't laugh anymore and will start whining like every other normal knight
Has that been sufficient whining? I'm not sure what constitutes "normal" for a knight, so I'm not certain how much more whining is required.
I don't laugh at knights losing their OP block heal skill. It was a free heal that did not require a turn to cast and not costing any rage. However, it was also totally luck based and usually only super OP in higher floors of ToK nm and when fighting knights so much stronger than you that your attacks heal more than the damage they do.
The block heal nerf wasn't arbitrary and it's been known for a while that knights were nerfed in China. What I find odd is why the nerf was needed. The few guesses I've seen don't seem to hold water because as hp goes up, usually other stats are going up too (so you get bigger heals from block heal, but also are tanking harder hits and need those heals...it balances out).
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Originally posted by Arlad View Postyes, but you need at least 3 critical hit of Arrow Shot to get your rage back, so 3 turns already passed and you have no spare rage for other skills unles you get lucky with rage discount debuff.R2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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i m making 3k honor daily after patch bg bug released, means after 3 days of patch :P, no need to whine lol . Those who are level 80 and can't get max honor cap are only allowed to whine
For me Bg is more important and for that you need _________
Yes you guess right but not in my case :PIGN: Kittylation
Server: Miniclip
Br: Never Fixed
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Originally posted by KS222 View PostUs squishy lil mages whine all the time! * Initiating whining: Archers are OP and need to be nerfed! Knights are OP because they have the strongest burst attacks in the game! Knights are archers are both OP in world boss and need to be nerfed! *End whining
Has that been sufficient whining? I'm not sure what constitutes "normal" for a knight, so I'm not certain how much more whining is required.
I don't laugh at knights losing their OP block heal skill. It was a free heal that did not require a turn to cast and not costing any rage. However, it was also totally luck based and usually only super OP in higher floors of ToK nm and when fighting knights so much stronger than you that your attacks heal more than the damage they do.
The block heal nerf wasn't arbitrary and it's been known for a while that knights were nerfed in China. What I find odd is why the nerf was needed. The few guesses I've seen don't seem to hold water because as hp goes up, usually other stats are going up too (so you get bigger heals from block heal, but also are tanking harder hits and need those heals...it balances out).Server: Kabam 17
Player name: Dwarf
Player level: 80
Player class: Knight
Honor title: Imperial Mythic Something
Battle rating: 615k
Guild name: LoonyToons
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Originally posted by icesz View Postarrow-MS-blessed shot-brutal rune-ISOriginally posted by Wraithraiser
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