btw i dont use IS at pvp and i dont use it if i have less than 80 rage, incase i need to use BTS to heal
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Originally posted by icesz View Postswitch the order use AS then ** then rune then MS and last IS
100 + 160(135+25) + 270(245+25) = 530Originally posted by Wraithraiser
Welcome to R2 forums. Where quality is nonexistent and quantity is only measured in the number of whines a single day can produce.
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Originally posted by Arlad View Postedit: why the heck we discuss about archer's skill rotation in a knight's thread? can we move our discussion to the other thread?
please don't leave, i would rather not read about knights complainingIGN/Server: Crusader Kabam 62
Class: Archer
Battle Rating: 275k (with herc br)
Guild: Black Lotus
Sylph: Hercules ★★ 46968
Originally posted by Wraithraiserbut yeah. Robo_Hobo for presidente
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Originally posted by Brutal_Hobo View Postplease don't leave, i would rather not read about knights complainingR2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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Originally posted by ArowenGR View PostWhy you keep saying people are whinning? Easy for you to say since you are an archer.
Raising block is not easy. Appart from astral and refining, gems offer too little.
And penetr comes in 2 astrals which ALSO have atk boost, while angel is 1 astral with no extra boosts.
And also keep in mind that by being an archer you can focus on last patch's new stuff. Us knights must reconfigure our whole buildup, strategy etc while also trying to make ends meet in this no-guide new patch. (I think mages are also looking for ways to counter this crazy dps world of wartune with their low HP, but I will leave a mage talk about that.)
Archers are by far the favoured class atm so be a sport and don't make such [...] comments please.
Its almost funny to see some archers all getting upset about complaining threat of knight, not contributing anything just...whining about knights 'whining'. Are they not getting most gold, best places in sky trail and necro and god decent and thus most rewards always? So yes be a sport and stop attacking us here time after time, save it for bg, i kick ur archers ***
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Originally posted by Tanlii View PostTotally agree, thanks for your contribution arowen.
Its almost funny to see some archers all getting upset about complaining threat of knight, not contributing anything just...whining about knights 'whining'. Are they not getting most gold, best places in sky trail and necro and god decent and thus most rewards always? So yes be a sport and stop attacking us here time after time, save it for bg, i kick ur archers ***R2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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Originally posted by redav View Posti don't understand why they capped block at 3k. did they mean that before patch 3.1 , knights were always overpowered bcoz of thier block+4% heal and now they capped it so we got balanced out?
bi tch please, that ain't no truth.R2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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Originally posted by icesz View Postwhining is useless so dont whine and u wont be attacked, its not like R2 will change it back after theyve seen this on forum....it goes for EVERY class“Men trust God by risking rejection. Women trust God by waiting.â€
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Originally posted by EdGrr View Postso free nowadays, icesz? seeing you roaming almost every forum.. : )R2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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Originally posted by LyNxEfecT View PostYep a another knight whining thread woooooo -.- Jesus you guys should all just quit if you don't like your knight anymore. My server there is 6 knights in top 10 and they all doing just fine...
I have a problem with tampering with abilities in general particularly if we don't get a free skill reset. If they put in a cap as they have done for knight - it is only fair to cap others. Suntoria is a prime example. Just remember our block NEVER activates as much as suntoria and that heals 4 to 5 times the value of knights making it at least a factor of 10 or more effective.
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Originally posted by muzza40 View PostThis is exactly the problem - yes there are a lot of top knights but that is because they are very very heavy cashers. Even moderate knight cashers have been heavily hit here. Crit for knights is ineffective (I have over 9k now and I am beginning to crit less than 50%), block heal is now a joke (it is less than 2%), and our casting speed is still ridiculously slow. You go on about whining knights but that is simply because they did nothing to the other classes - the archers DF and scat only affects MPDs where it was not needed anyway. The one place it may hurt archers is in GD if DF is ineffective there, but that was a long standing overpowering advantage to archers.
I have a problem with tampering with abilities in general particularly if we don't get a free skill reset. If they put in a cap as they have done for knight - it is only fair to cap others. Suntoria is a prime example. Just remember our block NEVER activates as much as suntoria and that heals 4 to 5 times the value of knights making it at least a factor of 10 or more effective.
U got urself a semi healing skill and w/ adv healing rune u heal even more.Last edited by icesz; 08-22-2014, 01:33 PM.R2 s116 Red Realm + (s113-s119) + (s126-s129-s132-s135) + (s72-s75-s78-s84-s88-s91)
IGN : Illyasviel
Class : Archer
Guild : •OneŽ•
LvL : 80
Sylph : Zeus, Hecate, Poseidon
BR : over 9000!!!
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A) suntoria costs 30 rage, not free
B) suntoria costs 1 turn, quite bad
C) suntoria can only be cast once per fight due to cooldown (unless you are stupid enough to delay going sylph to regen close to nothing hp and allowing your oppent to special skill first)
D) suntoria can be scattered/PURGED, its a problem given point "C"
E) suntoria can be stolen by chaos rune
F) suntoria can be forgotten through amnesia rune
G) given knights have 20% more base HP their block heal is not really 4% but 4.8% of base HP, suntoria is 4-5-6 (so 1.2%, not 2% more)
H) block heal can NOT be denied
so why was suntoria so much better and so much more OP than the heal from the passive again??
if anything mages should complain abt their support skill:
-archers IS = dmg received -30%
-knight AS = dmg received -30%
-mage damnation = dmg dealt +10% (which in a knights case is +3%)... yup.. mages are so op...
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