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  • Tanlii
    started a topic Knights don't take this from R2!

    Knights don't take this from R2!

    The few times after patch I was able to log my account (knight 130 k br) and did some spire and dungeons. I noticed I block a lot, but my hp goes down the drain fast due to this maxed heal of 3 k hp.
    I died first in my team in spire, I even died in ll nm 1 time. Before patch no way that happened.

    So probably some R2 developer with knight issues thought it be ok to play this lousy trick on knights, which makes them from tanks into....what? slow archers with low mdef? mages without heal?
    Gaining 4% hp after block was the only special good thing we had!!!

    What will the next step be? Max the healing of mages and max all crit to a lousy low number?

    And for what reason did you do this R2? Where knights becoming too strong? Was it not possible anymore for mages with 10 to 20 k lower br to kick their *** in bg? I dont think so!

    So why R2 whyyyyyy have you done this????

    I want to call all knights and those who support us, don't buy any balens till R2 reverses this unfair and unneeded change!
    Knights are the biggest cashers in this game, lets give R2 some hurt back!

  • Roblox88
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    Originally posted by redav View Post
    if its the truth, then why they rolled it back to 4% on chinese wartune? and it doesnt matter the server is english or chinese, because knights r ruling chinese servers as well. but it doesnt mean tht they r op. it just mean tht they cash more than others,
    It's cheaper over there though.

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  • redav
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    Originally posted by icesz View Post
    thats true on english servers
    if its the truth, then why they rolled it back to 4% on chinese wartune? and it doesnt matter the server is english or chinese, because knights r ruling chinese servers as well. but it doesnt mean tht they r op. it just mean tht they cash more than others,
    Last edited by redav; 08-23-2014, 04:37 AM.

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  • redav
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    to the fellow knights,

    3k block heal is just too low, but no need to worry, coz in future patches it will be back to 4% but with 80% chance, way better than present,
    i guess the devs realized that they went too far :s

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  • ADYXZ
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    A) suntoria costs 30 rage, not free
    B) suntoria costs 1 turn, quite bad
    C) suntoria can only be cast once per fight due to cooldown (unless you are stupid enough to delay going sylph to regen close to nothing hp and allowing your oppent to special skill first)
    D) suntoria can be scattered/PURGED, its a problem given point "C"
    E) suntoria can be stolen by chaos rune
    F) suntoria can be forgotten through amnesia rune
    G) given knights have 20% more base HP their block heal is not really 4% but 4.8% of base HP, suntoria is 4-5-6 (so 1.2%, not 2% more)
    H) block heal can NOT be denied

    so why was suntoria so much better and so much more OP than the heal from the passive again??
    if anything mages should complain abt their support skill:
    -archers IS = dmg received -30%
    -knight AS = dmg received -30%
    -mage damnation = dmg dealt +10% (which in a knights case is +3%)... yup.. mages are so op...

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  • icesz
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    Originally posted by muzza40 View Post
    This is exactly the problem - yes there are a lot of top knights but that is because they are very very heavy cashers. Even moderate knight cashers have been heavily hit here. Crit for knights is ineffective (I have over 9k now and I am beginning to crit less than 50%), block heal is now a joke (it is less than 2%), and our casting speed is still ridiculously slow. You go on about whining knights but that is simply because they did nothing to the other classes - the archers DF and scat only affects MPDs where it was not needed anyway. The one place it may hurt archers is in GD if DF is ineffective there, but that was a long standing overpowering advantage to archers.

    I have a problem with tampering with abilities in general particularly if we don't get a free skill reset. If they put in a cap as they have done for knight - it is only fair to cap others. Suntoria is a prime example. Just remember our block NEVER activates as much as suntoria and that heals 4 to 5 times the value of knights making it at least a factor of 10 or more effective.
    go lvl up ur blood rune to adv. lvl 8, that 1 is OP now to ANY classes and it counters suntoria or lvl up chaos rune so when they cast suntoria it "will" cast on u instead.
    U got urself a semi healing skill and w/ adv healing rune u heal even more.
    Last edited by icesz; 08-22-2014, 01:33 PM.

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  • muzza40
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    Originally posted by LyNxEfecT View Post
    Yep a another knight whining thread woooooo -.- Jesus you guys should all just quit if you don't like your knight anymore. My server there is 6 knights in top 10 and they all doing just fine...
    This is exactly the problem - yes there are a lot of top knights but that is because they are very very heavy cashers. Even moderate knight cashers have been heavily hit here. Crit for knights is ineffective (I have over 9k now and I am beginning to crit less than 50%), block heal is now a joke (it is less than 2%), and our casting speed is still ridiculously slow. You go on about whining knights but that is simply because they did nothing to the other classes - the archers DF and scat only affects MPDs where it was not needed anyway. The one place it may hurt archers is in GD if DF is ineffective there, but that was a long standing overpowering advantage to archers.

    I have a problem with tampering with abilities in general particularly if we don't get a free skill reset. If they put in a cap as they have done for knight - it is only fair to cap others. Suntoria is a prime example. Just remember our block NEVER activates as much as suntoria and that heals 4 to 5 times the value of knights making it at least a factor of 10 or more effective.

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  • EdGrr
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    Originally posted by icesz View Post
    got a week off
    hope you see you in forum more often.. : )

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  • icesz
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    Originally posted by EdGrr View Post
    so free nowadays, icesz? seeing you roaming almost every forum.. : )
    got a week off

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  • EdGrr
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    Originally posted by icesz View Post
    whining is useless so dont whine and u wont be attacked, its not like R2 will change it back after theyve seen this on forum....it goes for EVERY class
    so free nowadays, icesz? seeing you roaming almost every forum.. : )

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  • icesz
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    Originally posted by redav View Post
    i don't understand why they capped block at 3k. did they mean that before patch 3.1 , knights were always overpowered bcoz of thier block+4% heal and now they capped it so we got balanced out?
    bi tch please, that ain't no truth.
    thats true on english servers

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  • redav
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    i don't understand why they capped block at 3k. did they mean that before patch 3.1 , knights were always overpowered bcoz of thier block+4% heal and now they capped it so we got balanced out?
    bi tch please, that ain't no truth.

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  • icesz
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    Originally posted by Tanlii View Post
    Totally agree, thanks for your contribution arowen.

    Its almost funny to see some archers all getting upset about complaining threat of knight, not contributing anything just...whining about knights 'whining'. Are they not getting most gold, best places in sky trail and necro and god decent and thus most rewards always? So yes be a sport and stop attacking us here time after time, save it for bg, i kick ur archers ***
    whining is useless so dont whine and u wont be attacked, its not like R2 will change it back after theyve seen this on forum....it goes for EVERY class

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  • Tanlii
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    Originally posted by ArowenGR View Post
    Why you keep saying people are whinning? Easy for you to say since you are an archer.
    Raising block is not easy. Appart from astral and refining, gems offer too little.
    And penetr comes in 2 astrals which ALSO have atk boost, while angel is 1 astral with no extra boosts.

    And also keep in mind that by being an archer you can focus on last patch's new stuff. Us knights must reconfigure our whole buildup, strategy etc while also trying to make ends meet in this no-guide new patch. (I think mages are also looking for ways to counter this crazy dps world of wartune with their low HP, but I will leave a mage talk about that.)
    Archers are by far the favoured class atm so be a sport and don't make such [...] comments please.
    Totally agree, thanks for your contribution arowen.

    Its almost funny to see some archers all getting upset about complaining threat of knight, not contributing anything just...whining about knights 'whining'. Are they not getting most gold, best places in sky trail and necro and god decent and thus most rewards always? So yes be a sport and stop attacking us here time after time, save it for bg, i kick ur archers ***

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  • redav
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    Originally posted by LyNxEfecT View Post
    He's gonna be as bad as redeav xD
    don't u mention ur Dad's name in every post of yours. XD

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