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  • R226899074
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    PCL website "Under Maintenance"?

    Maintenance, yeah right!

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  • LostSoul72
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    Originally posted by R226899074 View Post
    Ref: https://courtsportal.dallascounty.or...NMZyt2J2Q2?p=0


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    Subsidiaries of 7Road Holdings;
    Shenzhen Qianhai Huanjing Network Technology Co., Ltd.
    SHENZHEN 7TH ROAD TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD. (7th Road)
    Digital Hollywood Interactive Limited (Game Hollywood)

    Subsidiaries of Digital Hollywood Interactive Limited (Game Hollywood);
    Proficient City Limited
    Guangzhou Zhang Ying Kong Information Technology Company Limited

    http://iis.aastocks.com/20200930/9458436-0.PDF
    See you just proved my point .... 7 road subsidiary = Game Hollywood subsidiary = Proficient City

    It's basically like Google taking money from Alphabet

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  • thor31
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    looks like its going to be a long wait untill we know the outcome for the game and r2

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  • R226899074
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    Ref: https://courtsportal.dallascounty.or...NMZyt2J2Q2?p=0

    A collection letter was sent to "Proficient City Limited" (PCL) on May 20, 2019 - "EXHIBIT F"

    Shenzhen Qianhai Huanjing Network Technology Co., Ltd. ("Qianhai Huanjing") and
    Shenzhen 7th Road Technology Co., Ltd. ("7th Road", together with Qianhai Huanjing, "We"
    or "Us") hereby send this legal letter to you regarding the amounts you owe us.

    1,116,523.23 (USD) Total amount due and payable within 5 working days of receipt of the letter.

    "If" R2 owes PCL, then;
    552,648.20 - ("if" R2 owes PCL) PCL's payment is due within 40 days of receipt of the letter.
    563,875.03 - PCL's payment due within 5 working days of receipt of the letter.

    "(3) In addition, as the agreements relating to Wartune expired on March 19, 2019, according to Section 12.5 of the Agency Agreement, upon the termination of the Agreement, you shall immediately cease to act as the agent for the game. The fact that you are still operating Wartune has infringed on our intellectual property rights such as copyright, trademark right, and other rights relating to the game."


    Civil Complaint was filed on Aug. 28, 2020 - "EXHIBIT G"
    Plaintiff: Shenzhen Qianhai Huanjing Network Technology Co., Ltd. (Not.. 7th Road)
    Defendant: Proficient City Limited

    Plaintiff is requesting the 8+ million

    "On February 1, 2018, the Plaintiff, 7th Road and the Defendant signed the Tripartite Agreement on the General Transfer of Rights and Obligations, according to which the three parties agreed to assign the outstanding rights and obligations of 7th Road under the Agency Agreement to the Plaintiff."

    Where's the "Tripartite Agreement"?
    I don't recall seeing that in the court docs.. might have over-looked it.

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    Subsidiaries of 7Road Holdings;
    Shenzhen Qianhai Huanjing Network Technology Co., Ltd.
    SHENZHEN 7TH ROAD TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD. (7th Road)
    Digital Hollywood Interactive Limited (Game Hollywood)

    Subsidiaries of Digital Hollywood Interactive Limited (Game Hollywood);
    Proficient City Limited
    Guangzhou Zhang Ying Kong Information Technology Company Limited

    http://iis.aastocks.com/20200930/9458436-0.PDF

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  • LostSoul72
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    I think one thing people missed here .... and could probably explain why it took 7road awhile to cut off PCL is because in one of the first filings it stated that 7road owns a majority stake in PCL. & road wins regardless if they loose because they have money coming in either way. If they are allowed to force PCL to pay them what they say they are owed .... they win. If they can't force PCL to pay them, they still win because the stock of PCL will rise and has the majority shareholder ... 7 road wins financially.

    In the end remember .... none of these companies cared about THE PLAYERS at all. They cared about THE MONEY the players gave them. You may think they are one in the same .... but they are not. They even say in their filings they are loosing all this money ... not all these players.

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  • MemoryLane
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    Originally posted by scotchmist64 View Post
    One last point that someone could clarify....as this action is in the US Courts as the data was on a US based server what about us players that are on the European servers..?...surely US Law does not apply to European countries...or does it !!!!!!
    I'm going to presume everything I didn't quote is rhetorical, and then point out that your physical location has nothing to do with where the data is located. Unless you're going to go after the devs for not following GDPR, you being in the EU doesn't matter.

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  • R226899074
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    LETTER TO JUDGE REQUESTING AN EARLIER HEARING DATE BEFORE 11/11/20
    https://courtsportal.dallascounty.or...eEE89kutA2?p=0

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  • Passion65
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    I agree with scotchmist64, as above. We The Players, are the losers here. Seriously will Wartune ever return or are WE all going to wait & wait & wait. It makes the devs & publishers; 7Roads, R2, PCL all look like crazies! Seems WE are the crazies for believing in them to restore our game. There is alot missing from this lawsuit. However, the final veridt is---Is Wartune alive or dead. If it is dead, say so and forget all this legal up & downs. Then, when is it restored? Like covid, will not go away. WE all need good news now. Only people making money here are the lawyers !

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  • scotchmist64
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    All this legal mumbo jumbo is not in any way making things easier for the real losers here...'The Players'.
    By the time this is finally resolved how many players do you think will actually be here to resume playing...or want to play again after a long time away.
    Doesn't matter who eventually wins as the trust will be lost in GH/R2 or the other side (we are not allowed to say their name). Already players have had enough & are fed up being the pawns in this saga.
    Somebody is at fault here but all we are getting is one side of the story (here) & the other side still on maintenance after 5 days so we all losers.
    Time to pull the plug on this whole debacle & say Wartune is officially dead....both sides can then fight it out in court for a hollow victory.
    Expecting players to wait, wait, & wait some more is quite frankly a joke.
    One last point that someone could clarify....as this action is in the US Courts as the data was on a US based server what about us players that are on the European servers..?...surely US Law does not apply to European countries...or does it !!!!!!

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  • MemoryLane
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    Originally posted by ShadowWalkyr60 View Post
    True, MemoryLane. Both parties have submitted their initial motions, briefs are due within the week. From what I've read of the court docs, it does look like PCL does not have as strong a case as though. I'm still wading through them, so might have missed that part about R2G. Th thing I found odd is both 7Road and PCL or not based in the US. 7Road-China and PCL-Hong Kong. I think it was filed in the US due to main server locations.
    It's in the submitted translation where it outlines PCL's financial responsibility, and then states that IF part of that financial responsibility is because R2 has not yet (not that they did not yet) paid their portion to PCL and that's resulted in PCL not paying the devs, then that portion would be due in 40 days instead of when the rest was demanded.

    A US venue to discuss what happens to the data makes sense since the data was originally on a US based server, copied from that US based server, and then stored on a different US based server. That makes it assets based in the US, which falls under US jurisdiction.

    So far these filings have raised a lot of questions for me. Why wouldn't the devs initiate some sort of proceeding in 2019 if they were really owed as much as $8million? Instead, they continued to actively work with PCL to develop the game per PCL's recommendations. Patch 10 was only 2 months ago, and a lot of changes to the game come from the publishers recommending those changes, so it doesn't make sense to me that the devs would have carried on like nothing was wrong until October 2020 if, as their documents claim, PCL was in breach of contract by even having the game up on their servers as far back as March 2019. Something is still missing from this puzzle.

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  • ShadowWalkyr60
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    True, MemoryLane. Both parties have submitted their initial motions, briefs are due within the week. From what I've read of the court docs, it does look like PCL does not have as strong a case as though. I'm still wading through them, so might have missed that part about R2G. Th thing I found odd is both 7Road and PCL or not based in the US. 7Road-China and PCL-Hong Kong. I think it was filed in the US due to main server locations.

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  • MemoryLane
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    I would like to blitz law school so I can better understand what all the legal language means.

    So far there's been an emergency temporary restraining order granted which forbids the devs from moving or using data that was copied from ProCity's US based server that the devs had limited access to for updating purposes to a US based server owned by the devs. A hearing was originally scheduled for 10/28 to determine what the injunctive order will be, if any order is granted for the remainder of the case. An extension was granted to move that hearing from 10/28 to 11/11 because the devs didn't feel like they had enough time to build their case against the injunction, and that was agreed to by both sides.

    The hearing set for December 17th is an Initial Dismissal Hearing, which is the deadline for both sides to have everything filed, for the court to see if the case moves forward for trial or if it should be dismissed. This date is not the trial date. If the case moves forward for trial, the date is set during this hearing.

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  • R226899074
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    Although 7Road presented compelling evidence to oppose the TRO, the fact that they requested an "Unopposed Emergency Motion to Modify Temporary Injunction Schedule and for Early Discovery", which the court has approved. I doubt the judge will decide on anything until Nov. 11th. https://courtsportal.dallascounty.org/.../v5xKyaWFes8Isy0...

    This is not looking good for PCL/GH, and it would benefit them to concede now to end this charade, rather than run the risk of letting this play out, and possibly suffer irreparable harm.
    It looks like PCL/GH at some point has placed blame on F5/R2 for an outstanding debt, which 7Road is willing to give them ample time to collect. And a question remains, is PCL/GH telling the truth or passing unwarranted blame?
    Last edited by R226899074; 10-29-2020, 11:23 AM.

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  • LostSoul72
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    Originally posted by dave View Post
    I agree the order is invalid until the judge signs it, however they usually do not draw up a order until the judge has ruled on the matter at hand.
    That is not correct. A great lawyer writes up an order for the judge along with their motion because it can be used to influence the judges opinion. The order is the "ideal" of what the lawyer wishes the judge to agree to. It does NOT mean the judge has agreed to it or will ever agree to it.

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  • R210549791
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    A temp restraining order has been issued. The initial court date for the hearing on the order was October 28th. The Defendant has requested the hearing be changed to Nov. 11. The court has granted that change of hearing date. So doubt very much that post is true. Odds are nothing happens prior to the 11th of November and then there's a final hearing scheduled for December. don't count on playing this any time soon.

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