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    Not sure if this is the right board but moreso a question of concern.

    I know speculating that someone is upgrading via a third party site(guessing that's the right term) is pretty big since there are a lot of variables into play.
    I could be wrong, but just got a sinking feeling.
    Since it's unfair for people who work legitimately in upgrading via trading, store, or other means of in game measures.
    Thus, lets get started.

    Here's the situation:
    For identity sake guess we can call them Player X (fitting since there can be variables I'm missing, but it's your call.)

    Player X has returned after a 2-3 year hiatus. your average player from back when. Thus there's been a lot of systems that have been released to say the least.
    Anyway, it's been a month(maybe 3 weeks so rounding up to a month) that player X has been playing and they made quite a few upgrades. I'm not sure where they currently was but have to factor that they been away for 2-3 years.

    There's the possibilities of alts, but as far as chatting, they only have one alt that vends for them (maybe they have more so this is where the variables can come into play.)

    Here we go:
    1) Divine +0 -> promethean VI
    base on the divine guide, this is about roughly 16k divine feather and 3600 promethean feather(assuming it was 600 per upgrade.)

    Now it is luck base with stars; however, there's only so much luck a person can have. thus wings will still be costly either way.

    2) Not even sure what frag they had, but figure perfect X was 2-3 years ago? if so whatever one they had before to immortal X(max at the moment.)
    On top of that, making a second frag from start -> auguric V [or supreme auguric V] (at the time of this post.)


    This is also luck base, but factoring how much dc, and fs you need is quite a bit. They could have farmed it before they quit so long ago, but I have my doubts.

    3) Getting seal of doom

    This can potentially be possible, but unlikely with everything else that Player X has been upgrading thus far. Especially since the highest they got so far is a blue banner. And getting that much roe in a month to make 60 rogs(unless extremely lucky) is pushing it.

    4) Gen 3 kyubbi
    Going to take a guess they used 4 kyubbis for this since they have 170% hp/120% attack/ 180% def / 150% heal (rounded for identity sake.) They could also be extremely lucky here. maybe a few clicks per kyubbi, who knows. However that still leaves about 20k+ purified crystal to feed them all. Not counting the mount stones and the mount orbs required to get a generation 3.

    5) 750 spirit of ares for 4 Spirit of ares pieces(theoretically) and 2 orange ebs gear
    For me this is pretty quick to do under a month. Especially if their alt wasn't buying any spirit of ares, or enchanted skill dust(esd) for that matter. However the esd could be luck base too I suppose.



    Again, I could be wrong, but even with cashing(spending limit) and trading, that's a lot to get in under a month. Especially after coming back from such a long hiatus. Most people that do are confused at some of the new additions to the game.

    Thus why I think player X may be using a third party site to acquire such vast upgrades.
    Not saying to ban them right away, but that should initiate some kind of warning if they indeed use such a site.

    But I'm not the right person to make such accusations. I guess it is possible to get each of those in under a month(maybe beside wings) in of it's own. However, all together seems farfetched. Either way, I'm just stating how suspicious it is under the circumstance of the situation.

  • #2
    Originally posted by reinviting View Post
    Not sure if this is the right board but moreso a question of concern.

    I know speculating that someone is upgrading via a third party site(guessing that's the right term) is pretty big since there are a lot of variables into play.
    I could be wrong, but just got a sinking feeling.
    Since it's unfair for people who work legitimately in upgrading via trading, store, or other means of in game measures.
    Thus, lets get started.

    Here's the situation:
    For identity sake guess we can call them Player X (fitting since there can be variables I'm missing, but it's your call.)

    Player X has returned after a 2-3 year hiatus. your average player from back when. Thus there's been a lot of systems that have been released to say the least.
    Anyway, it's been a month(maybe 3 weeks so rounding up to a month) that player X has been playing and they made quite a few upgrades. I'm not sure where they currently was but have to factor that they been away for 2-3 years.

    There's the possibilities of alts, but as far as chatting, they only have one alt that vends for them (maybe they have more so this is where the variables can come into play.)

    Here we go:
    1) Divine +0 -> promethean VI
    base on the divine guide, this is about roughly 16k divine feather and 3600 promethean feather(assuming it was 600 per upgrade.)

    Now it is luck base with stars; however, there's only so much luck a person can have. thus wings will still be costly either way.

    2) Not even sure what frag they had, but figure perfect X was 2-3 years ago? if so whatever one they had before to immortal X(max at the moment.)
    On top of that, making a second frag from start -> auguric V [or supreme auguric V] (at the time of this post.)


    This is also luck base, but factoring how much dc, and fs you need is quite a bit. They could have farmed it before they quit so long ago, but I have my doubts.

    3) Getting seal of doom

    This can potentially be possible, but unlikely with everything else that Player X has been upgrading thus far. Especially since the highest they got so far is a blue banner. And getting that much roe in a month to make 60 rogs(unless extremely lucky) is pushing it.

    4) Gen 3 kyubbi
    Going to take a guess they used 4 kyubbis for this since they have 170% hp/120% attack/ 180% def / 150% heal (rounded for identity sake.) They could also be extremely lucky here. maybe a few clicks per kyubbi, who knows. However that still leaves about 20k+ purified crystal to feed them all. Not counting the mount stones and the mount orbs required to get a generation 3.

    5) 750 spirit of ares for 4 Spirit of ares pieces(theoretically) and 2 orange ebs gear
    For me this is pretty quick to do under a month. Especially if their alt wasn't buying any spirit of ares, or enchanted skill dust(esd) for that matter. However the esd could be luck base too I suppose.



    Again, I could be wrong, but even with cashing(spending limit) and trading, that's a lot to get in under a month. Especially after coming back from such a long hiatus. Most people that do are confused at some of the new additions to the game.

    Thus why I think player X may be using a third party site to acquire such vast upgrades.
    Not saying to ban them right away, but that should initiate some kind of warning if they indeed use such a site.

    But I'm not the right person to make such accusations. I guess it is possible to get each of those in under a month(maybe beside wings) in of it's own. However, all together seems farfetched. Either way, I'm just stating how suspicious it is under the circumstance of the situation.
    he started as a lil bitty nothing to 800k+ patk and yes thats 3 kyubi's and thats prolly 8-10k gmuts,considering his *** 500ish soul,he's malling his arse off,noway could u farm void that much in a month and have prom wings,3rd gen kyubi,blue banner,and 500ish soul... <---- dead giveaway besides all that u mentioned... in a month,and don't even get me started on how much that'd cost if was cashed legit through r2.. anywho ye soul gives this nerd up :P

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    • #3
      Originally posted by reinviting View Post
      Not sure if this is the right board but moreso a question of concern.

      I know speculating that someone is upgrading via a third party site(guessing that's the right term) is pretty big since there are a lot of variables into play.
      I could be wrong, but just got a sinking feeling.
      Since it's unfair for people who work legitimately in upgrading via trading, store, or other means of in game measures.
      Thus, lets get started.

      Here's the situation:
      For identity sake guess we can call them Player X (fitting since there can be variables I'm missing, but it's your call.)

      Player X has returned after a 2-3 year hiatus. your average player from back when. Thus there's been a lot of systems that have been released to say the least.
      Anyway, it's been a month(maybe 3 weeks so rounding up to a month) that player X has been playing and they made quite a few upgrades. I'm not sure where they currently was but have to factor that they been away for 2-3 years.

      There's the possibilities of alts, but as far as chatting, they only have one alt that vends for them (maybe they have more so this is where the variables can come into play.)

      Here we go:
      1) Divine +0 -> promethean VI
      base on the divine guide, this is about roughly 16k divine feather and 3600 promethean feather(assuming it was 600 per upgrade.)

      Now it is luck base with stars; however, there's only so much luck a person can have. thus wings will still be costly either way.

      2) Not even sure what frag they had, but figure perfect X was 2-3 years ago? if so whatever one they had before to immortal X(max at the moment.)
      On top of that, making a second frag from start -> auguric V [or supreme auguric V] (at the time of this post.)


      This is also luck base, but factoring how much dc, and fs you need is quite a bit. They could have farmed it before they quit so long ago, but I have my doubts.

      3) Getting seal of doom

      This can potentially be possible, but unlikely with everything else that Player X has been upgrading thus far. Especially since the highest they got so far is a blue banner. And getting that much roe in a month to make 60 rogs(unless extremely lucky) is pushing it.

      4) Gen 3 kyubbi
      Going to take a guess they used 4 kyubbis for this since they have 170% hp/120% attack/ 180% def / 150% heal (rounded for identity sake.) They could also be extremely lucky here. maybe a few clicks per kyubbi, who knows. However that still leaves about 20k+ purified crystal to feed them all. Not counting the mount stones and the mount orbs required to get a generation 3.

      5) 750 spirit of ares for 4 Spirit of ares pieces(theoretically) and 2 orange ebs gear
      For me this is pretty quick to do under a month. Especially if their alt wasn't buying any spirit of ares, or enchanted skill dust(esd) for that matter. However the esd could be luck base too I suppose.



      Again, I could be wrong, but even with cashing(spending limit) and trading, that's a lot to get in under a month. Especially after coming back from such a long hiatus. Most people that do are confused at some of the new additions to the game.

      Thus why I think player X may be using a third party site to acquire such vast upgrades.
      Not saying to ban them right away, but that should initiate some kind of warning if they indeed use such a site.

      But I'm not the right person to make such accusations. I guess it is possible to get each of those in under a month(maybe beside wings) in of it's own. However, all together seems farfetched. Either way, I'm just stating how suspicious it is under the circumstance of the situation.
      Lol it's so plain obvious that don't worth spending time on it! And as it seems R2 just looking the other way so why bother?!

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      • #4
        Oh and you forgot to add that getting the Immortal Aug X (max atm) happened in 1 day, also making the 2nd frag to Aug or whatever it's at now was also THE SAME DAY they maxed the other frag.

        Going from the divine wings through to the Prom VI's happened over the course of 2-3 days.

        Gen 3 Kyubbi happened in 1 day.

        Making a bunch of different seals to then make seal of doom happened in 1 day.

        They also claim that there is no spending limit when you legitimately cash through r2 and that is how they managed to do all of this.

        Also, there are a few players on our merge group who buy promethean feathers and they are very rare to come by so how does 1 person get enough in a few days to go to prom VI?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Auroria View Post
          Oh and you forgot to add that getting the Immortal Aug X (max atm) happened in 1 day, also making the 2nd frag to Aug or whatever it's at now was also THE SAME DAY they maxed the other frag.

          Going from the divine wings through to the Prom VI's happened over the course of 2-3 days.

          Gen 3 Kyubbi happened in 1 day.

          Making a bunch of different seals to then make seal of doom happened in 1 day.

          They also claim that there is no spending limit when you legitimately cash through r2 and that is how they managed to do all of this.

          Also, there are a few players on our merge group who buy promethean feathers and they are very rare to come by so how does 1 person get enough in a few days to go to prom VI?

          he sure as hell didn't farm anything... he ain't been on long enough... he straight maller but they ain't gonna do anything to him,they don't care lol

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          • #6
            Oh well let's see if this answers your questions! During his upgrades on frags! Which also were the only one continuous updates that happened those days hence
            they need a big amount of DC's (i believe 5000 dragon crystals are what made those):
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            • #7
              Originally posted by pappody View Post
              Oh well let's see if this answers your questions! During his upgrades on frags! Which also were the only one continuous updates that happened those days hence
              they need a big amount of DC's (i believe 5000 dragon crystals are what made those):
              [ATTACH=CONFIG]157306[/ATTACH]


              hmm all in 3 days lolol go figure,he sure wasn't buying in shops in SG...

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              • #8
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                Following on from pappodys dragon crystal screenshot, seems a rather big coincidence that player X has upgraded prom wings so much in such a short space of time then suddenly stopped and the 3rd party website has sold out of prom feathers lol
                (S36)Auroria
                160+ Eidolon Knight
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                • #9
                  Now he's making all his gems max lvl anyone wondering how many gems left in there?? Or you already got the idea of what's going on?!
                  Apparently only R2 still don't! Or maybe i say maybe they don't care?!

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                  • #10
                    too bad he can't buy soul shards or he'd have max soul too eh? lol thats what gives this noob away... 500 soul aura...

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                    • #11
                      If you all have reason(s) to believe someone is violating our ToS, you may report them via ticket. I highly advise taking a series of screenshots clearly depicting said player's suspicious upgrades (in-server timestamps included) over the course of so-and-so days.

                      When filing your ticket, include all applicable screenshots along with a brief explanation as to why said upgrades are suspicious. You may request that the GMs review said player's transaction history to see if it coincides with their game progression.

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                      • #12
                        i think thats the reason this post was made cuz tickets been filed yet no response nor any actions have been done to said player

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                        • #13
                          They prolly waiting for him to do something unreasonable bro! Oh wait that happened already! I'm out any guesses???!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Aionyx View Post
                            i think thats the reason this post was made cuz tickets been filed yet no response nor any actions have been done to said player
                            If you have ticket(s) that need forwarding, do post them here or send them via PM to any one of our listed CS moderators.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Reverie View Post
                              If you all have reason(s) to believe someone is violating our ToS, you may report them via ticket. I highly advise taking a series of screenshots clearly depicting said player's suspicious upgrades (in-server timestamps included) over the course of so-and-so days.

                              When filing your ticket, include all applicable screenshots along with a brief explanation as to why said upgrades are suspicious. You may request that the GMs review said player's transaction history to see if it coincides with their game progression.
                              It's not possible to take screenshots of all the upgrades exactly when they happen, firstly we are a big server and there's always a lot of people talking so the upgrades get lost in the chat and trying to scroll up is useless as whenever someone posts it drags you back to the bottom. Secondly, often we can be afk during some of the upgrades, so we only see what player X has by viewing their character and then seeing some back to back upgrades later...we can't possibly be expected to take screenshot after screenshot of their equipment just incase they upgrade. Thirdly, you can't predict when someone is going to upgrade.

                              Also, as a side note, we are the players...we don't get paid to go after people using 3rd party websites to upgrade their characters. R2 staff DO get paid, if we voice our concerns about someone upgrading in this way, especially multiple people voicing the EXACT SAME CONCERNS, then that should be reason enough for r2 to investigate. When we submit tickets, we get ignored or passed off with a thanks for filing the ticket and then nothing happens.
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