Enchanting System...

[R27443747]

I was enchanting my perfect frag and used up 340 DC from +7 and ended with +6. It kept going to +8 +7 +8 +7 +8 +7 +6 +7 etc..... It says 58% to get from +8 to +9 which is total ** its like 0% chance. Whats wrong with the enchanting system?

[elsage]

nothings wrong with enchanting system
no ** and it works perfect
if theres any **
that would be you luck


here is some idea
i play some online card game
there is this card able to turn other card into useless card with chances [40% or so]
when i use it nearly never the card performs its ability
yet when npc use it the card works perfect

[sangofighter]

Don't worry they'll eventually release +16 so you can rage even more.

[Jerry]

nothings wrong with enchanting system
no ** and it works perfect
if theres any **
that would be you luck


here is some idea
i play some online card game
there is this card able to turn other card into useless card with chances [40% or so]
when i use it nearly never the card performs its ability
yet when npc use it the card works perfect

No, the system is rigged.

[venomeh]

@ sangofighter Edit your post immediately, stop giving them the ideas....

[sangofighter]

@ sangofighter Edit your post immediately, stop giving them the ideas....

Why? You know it exist in other CS versions. Can't really change what already exist.

[venomeh]

Why? You know it exist in other CS versions. Can't really change what already exist.

Fyi they've already changed too much, that's all I can say.

[SlainAgain]

Fyi they've already changed too much, that's all I can say.

True. In the chinese one they give a 15 day Battle Bear I think, 3 day Pheonix, 3 day full costume as soon as you start, not to mention they have a new class.

[R24656887]

Enchanting is never funny. Many people even need stacks of DC to achieve perfect frag

[elsage]

True. In the chinese one they give a 15 day Battle Bear I think, 3 day Pheonix, 3 day full costume as soon as you start, not to mention they have a new class.

well other give a permanent bb for starter [no quest]
upgraded wings [no quest and ugraded already]
a full set of purple starter armor
30days panda costume
all for free as starter packs [4-5 packs or so straight to your bag]
while here we have one single starter pack with awesome contents

[RandomGamer]

A better way is to get rid of the "chance" system. But instead, make it like this:

+0 > +1 = 4 DC required
+1 > +2 = 10 DC required
+2 > +3 = 24 DC required
+3 > +4 = 50 DC required and so on...

All have 100% chance to upgrade.

Well, I'm not really serious about the numbers. I don't really know anything about those if the DC costs are too high or too low but what I am saying is there should just be a constant number of DC required per upgrade. Even if it's too high, at least you can be sure that you have 100% chance to upgrade it.

Also with mount and wings. Some people get a Battle Bear in first click while others get it in like 10 stars or something. Maybe they should change it as well.

Turtle > Panther = 15 MUTs required
Panther + Raccoon > Scorpion = 72 MUTs required
Scorpion + Stallion > Bear = 288 MUTs required and so on...

[MemoryLane]

A better way is to get rid of the "chance" system. But instead, make it like this:

+0 > +1 = 4 DC required
+1 > +2 = 10 DC required
+2 > +3 = 24 DC required
+3 > +4 = 50 DC required and so on...

All have 100% chance to upgrade.

Well, I'm not really serious about the numbers. I don't really know anything about those if the DC costs are too high or too low but what I am saying is there should just be a constant number of DC required per upgrade. Even if it's too high, at least you can be sure that you have 100% chance to upgrade it.

Also with mount and wings. Some people get a Battle Bear in first click while others get it in like 10 stars or something. Maybe they should change it as well.

Turtle > Panther = 15 MUTs required
Panther + Raccoon > Scorpion = 72 MUTs required
Scorpion + Stallion > Bear = 288 MUTs required and so on...

You seem to have forgotten about the people who can afford to buy the required items with cash in one day, which is the number one reason why it should never be a set amount to upgrade/enchant.

Personally, I think the success rate should be meaningful. It's always been just a number- you can still fail with a 100% success rate. Lucky stars should mean something too. Those are more to show that you did something when you failed, but aren't really an indicator of luck (I call them unlucky stars, since you only get them for being unlucky).

[Jabus]

I wanna a summoner XD.... This not right post but new class would be nice.. I have all but mage, idr feel like playing mage lol :P...summoner class would be interesting addition. With new server coming R2 should pop that new class in there.

[RandomGamer]

You seem to have forgotten about the people who can afford to buy the required items with cash in one day, which is the number one reason why it should never be a set amount to upgrade/enchant.

Personally, I think the success rate should be meaningful. It's always been just a number- you can still fail with a 100% success rate. Lucky stars should mean something too. Those are more to show that you did something when you failed, but aren't really an indicator of luck (I call them unlucky stars, since you only get them for being unlucky).

However, the flaw about your current system is that the "lucky" people who always get stuff upgraded in one click will be better than the "unlucky" people because they can't upgrade their stuff. Although, I think the mount and wing system is fair because you can't get like 30 stars like in the other game which I'm sure you already know which but the enchanting system is just as unfair as hell because with each fail, you do not get anything to give you hope that you can get it by next time (lucky stars in mount and wings) but instead, your equipment will just decrease in enchant level and is certainly unfair.

[MemoryLane]

However, the flaw about your current system is that the "lucky" people who always get stuff upgraded in one click will be better than the "unlucky" people because they can't upgrade their stuff. Although, I think the mount and wing system is fair because you can't get like 30 stars like in the other game which I'm sure you already know which but the enchanting system is just as unfair as hell because with each fail, you do not get anything to give you hope that you can get it by next time (lucky stars in mount and wings) but instead, your equipment will just decrease in enchant level and is certainly unfair.

You haven't seen the Demon Lord + wing upgrades yet, have you? Those are maddening.

Personally (and I count myself among the notoriously unlucky), I think a static system would be quite boring. Half the fun in upgrading something successfully is being successful with the upgrade.