Add Soul Print as possible drop in the new dungeons

[sebastian1988]

Hi R2,

here are my suggestions for the new dungeons.

First of all, it is not easy to solo those dungeons, you have to play with strategy for sure and most people are wasting a ton of resources (blessed stones, health orb, pots, durability, pet loyality).

The used up resources dont justify the drop of only sperion socketing rods and sperion gems.
Besides that, synthing the sperion gems to a higher level takes too many pc. We do not have enough ways to get pc ingame.

We need pc to level up our mounts, to synth elixirs, to synth regular gems, for fragshards, to work on soul...
And now we got the sperion addition. Synthing ONE level 7 Sperion gem takes 350~ PC alone. You need 3 of them for the combined gem bonus..
1200 pc for 1 lvl 8 gem, 4000 pc for 1 lvl 9 gem and almost 13000 pc for 1 lvl 10 gem.

Even with vip, dungeons keys and exelorn hollows, we can only farm 13x7 pc a day. that is 91 pc or almost half a year of work with vip and dungeon keys to get 1 lvl 10 gem. (IF you never use your pc on anything else)

You should look into this issue. I think the cost needs to be adjusted.

Also, lvl 7 gems cost $12 in the cash shop. You probably want to tempt people into cashing the gems to make some quick money but don't you think that this is a HUGE disadvantage for noncasher especially with the combined gem bonus being based on the gem level you use?

But that is not all. You can't morph your sperion as a noncasher because there is not even a tiny chance to get soul prints out of the new dungeons. I solo'd both dungeon, today and yesterday and no soul print dropped. All I got were a few gift boxes that only give earth soul orbs and they actually cost crystals to open them.

Morphing the sperion is expensive as well. Someone told me that he had to use 80 Soul Prints just to get from the 5th form to the 6th. From 6 to 7 it's even 120 Soul Prints. And there are 2 more morphs after that.

I think you should reconsider the drops in the new dungeon because they are too hard to justify those drops.
Aswell as adding VIP runs to them because they are apparently dungeons and VIP are said to get extra attempts for ALL dungeons.

[venomeh]

So agree with you..

[sebastian1988]

It's just so disappointing how noncasher are kept so far away from casher. If they don't realize soon that noncasher are important aswell then this game will end up like chinese servers where all casher get merged together because ppl dont bother anymore to compete at all.

I think they should at least give a chance and make those items farmable, casher will still enjoy having highlevel sperion first but noncasher will have a way to catch up and it's not like there won't be any new casher addition before any noncasher would have catched up..

I mean.. look at pet soul for example. Ever noticed the "Required $" in the cost? I cashed on this game but I am not willing to have to cash on any new addition just to not get simply destroyed by the people who cash more. Soul was okay, the cost of upgrades jumps up the more you upgrade, it's not easy to just max soul.
But the goddess buff changed the gameplay already. Most people don't stand a chance in pvp against casher with seal broken.

Before goddess got implemented you had at least a chance to pick up a fight even against ppl with high cashed soul but now its all about cashing. Even in avernal. Try to outdps someone who is using the blessing of light seal broken.

And as a casher, I don't really see the point of noncasher playing this game anymore if things keep going like they are right now. I already made a thread about this issue but no response yet. The nerfed Gmut Exchange is just as bad as the casher additions because noncasher are forced to exploit to catch up. That can't be the way of playing this game.

[Shaoren]

I don't agree. even you make higher lv sperion gem but you still can't use them because need higher morph of sperion.
dungeon is hard but you can party up.
before you enter there say "Recommended Party Size: 5" with yellow color.

i am lucky i can solo those and i am noncasher...

those Numerical are WHITE!!!!!!!
you know what mean

[sebastian1988]

I don't agree. even you make higher lv sperion gem but you still can't use them because need higher morph of sperion.
dungeon is hard but you can party up.
before you enter there say "Recommended Party Size: 5" with yellow color.

i am lucky i can solo those and i am noncasher...

those Numerical are WHITE!!!!!!!
you know what mean

How can you not agree? Do you know that a maxed sperion boosts you by 5k+ atk/def? (not counting the gems)
That the gem bonus is based on the gem level? Farming the rods and gems in party takes forever to upgrade those. That is actually even worse than soloing.

I haven't read anything about highlevel gems not being able to socket into low level sperion. If that is true then the whole system is much worse than I thought so far.
You simply can't morph your sperion as noncasher, using level 1 gems gives you only 1/10 of the gem combination bonus. I call that a huge disadvantage.

[nubheals]

The first form (unmorphed) Sperion only allows lvl 2 gem as max, so yeah the most we non-cashers can get will be 1/5 of the total bonus, unless some cashers are generous enough to sell Soul Print back to us, or R2 implement some way to gain them in-game

Adding 1 Soul Print to the rebirth pack is a good idea in my opinion, since sperion is supposed to be scion+ anyway, same for rebirth quest. What do you think?

[sebastian1988]

Only lvl 2 gems, ouch. Even lvl 3 gems drop in spernal D:

Adding them to the rebirth packs would be nice. Maybe even adding them to the dragon hunt.
Best would be to have them as a low drop, maybe 1 per spernal dungeon after you defeated the 7th boss.
That wouldn't be too easy and allows everyone to work on the sperion.
Even if you solo all 5 dungeon attempts/day, you would still have to farm a few month to get some higher morphs. If you do spernal in parties then even longer.

I just request a way to obtain them

A daily synth like gmut at krahn would also be an idea to implement soul prints.

[nubheals]

Only lvl 2 gems, ouch. Even lvl 3 gems drop in spernal D:

Yeah, I was so happy that I finally opened the first socket in my sperion today, then I dragged the lvl 3 def gem into the socket and it didn't allow me to socket the gem. Took a closer look and I saw "Maximum gem lvl: 2" >.<

Edit, off-topic: Venomeh, if you are reading this, then clear your inbox >.< And sure I will sell you puri for 2g each :P

[venomeh]

Yeah, I was so happy that I finally opened the first socket in my sperion today, then I dragged the lvl 3 def gem into the socket and it didn't allow me to socket the gem. Took a closer look and I saw "Maximum gem lvl: 2" >.<

Edit, off-topic: Venomeh, if you are reading this, then clear your inbox >.< And sure I will sell you puri for 2g each :P

Haha okay, and I'll pass lol

[takie]

Lol didn't know it cost that much to upgrade sperion, only thought you needed soul prints, but that's not available in game either -.-

[Botolminum]

How can you not agree? Do you know that a maxed sperion boosts you by 5k+ atk/def? (not counting the gems)
That the gem bonus is based on the gem level? Farming the rods and gems in party takes forever to upgrade those. That is actually even worse than soloing.

I haven't read anything about highlevel gems not being able to socket into low level sperion. If that is true then the whole system is much worse than I thought so far.
You simply can't morph your sperion as noncasher, using level 1 gems gives you only 1/10 of the gem combination bonus. I call that a huge disadvantage.

Just ignore renfa, non casher **, the guy is a major casher, and doesn't want non casher to gain advantage to him because he's playing a priest, he also got a knight too now, both with superior fragarach 7 +13, what a joke.

I agree with this, but most likely soul prints are just going to be like roses, and other items.... event only items, maybe in the future they can add it for some other activities.

[Alexmancer]

Where can you synth these gems? I've looked all over the synthesis panel and have not found a way to synthesis my sperion gems.


Otherwise, I completely agree with this. I also want to add that in the first dungeon, that drops Earth Soul Orbs, sometimes drops Packs of Earth Soul orbs that require CRYSTAL to open. I used charm to get 10 crystal for one of them, which really wasn't so bad since I had some saved up for events, but I didn't have nearly enough saved up for the 100 crystal pack and ended up having to sell it to someone else because I couldn't make use of it as a non-cash player. Item drops should NEVER cost crystal to open. This is just ridiculous.

[sebastian1988]

You can scroll down the synthesis menu

Just look at those...


The amount of pc needed is just too high (even for lower level gems) but hey, we can't use gems higher than lvl 2 without cashing...
But level 3 gems drop in the dungeon.. cash trap :|

[Alexmancer]

Wow that is crazy! It shouldn't cost that many puries!

[MemoryLane]

Where can you synth these gems? I've looked all over the synthesis panel and have not found a way to synthesis my sperion gems.

Open Item Synthesis menu and scroll down. It's below Pet Equipment.