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  • #16
    Yeah agree with pretty much everything you say, but I also have to say that in many respects R2 are doing a lot to provide new content - just that in most cases the new content widens the gap between the OP and the rest which kills the game for some ppl.

    There are some easy fixes that you have suggested that im sure could be implemented.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by speeds16 View Post
      Just read your comment after my post, if the original CS has started dropping Gmut's in Exelorn Hollows, R2 has no longer an excuse to keep the item event/cash-only. Now it's just greed.
      I got told about that by a friend of mine. But she was talking about japanese servers. original CS is chinese if I recall correctly.
      But for example yipeegames is constantly developing their own items for this game. They even had Dragonballs, Dragon Ball Costumes, now One Piece Devil Fruits that give permanent +attributes and so on. >.> I do believe that there are quite a lot things that are allowed to do even when the original CS never did it.

      I just recently checked out xixigames, they implemented Pet Lineage (Pet Soul) and it has a nice boost for pet stats. However, the items that you need to work on it are cash-shop only.

      Also xixigames and yipeegames both sell overpowered armors and mounts in their cash shop. The Ares Equipment, Wheel of Fate (permanent), 100% Success Dragon Crystals, even maxed Sperion and Fire/Ice kylin (best mount) - I really hope that we won't get that. The Ares Set has like what, 36% dmg reduction? Insane boost in stats, Kylin is like having a Hellwing and a Phoenix at the same time? Wheel of Fate is too hard to get from contribution packs, never got a single one. Also the cash shop version can be enchanted to +15.If we get those someday, then this game is pretty much done for non-cash player unless... content is accessible for everyone.

      I'm happy that there are only 2 major casher on my server, most of the tops are average casher (not counting people who spend less than at least $100 per month as avergae casher) or are exploiting events as much as possible. I rarely see any non-casher that can pick up fights. My ladder group is the only group on my server that can reach floor 75 , we have 2 average casher and 3 non-casher in our party, right now, ladder still requires to know how to play this game, but with any new cash update, this game turns to the point where you don't even have to be a good player anymore.

      Originally posted by speeds16 View Post
      As for the game dying, all new updates have been cash-orientated. There are huge threads about priests making them a usefull pvp-char yet all are being ignored: players are getting abandoned by R2 for cash.
      Since with eidolon-planes and the age of some servers PvE has no longer a challenge, what's the purpose of building a DPS-priest if you already know you'll be taken out by a lv60 mortal rogue anyways? A lot of priest-players already gave up, quit, or started over. Without priests we can't do Ladder. We need more balance in all classes to keep all classes in-game and alive (priest isn't the only class but it's a clear example of needing a fix).
      New content can wait if we can get our current content/classes fixed up first, balanced out. The excuse of "Original CS has to do it first" isn't valid any longer since R2's CS is the only one with such a supporter-based (with still nerfed skills) priest and cash-orientated setup of the game-content.
      I'm not sure if R2 nerfed any classes or if the original CS started like that. But skills for sure are different in other versions now and that alone shows that this game needs some change. Most skills were made at a time when no rebirth exist, no overpowered equipment. No frag, no sperion, no goddess. How can those skills keep up with the new content? They can't.

      The current week showed me again how boring this game is. Nothing to do.
      There weren't even enough roses and soul prints in the market. Ladder was boring as well, no reason to attempt going above floor 70.

      If this game was at least a challenge, then I could imagine that battlegrounds like seng are fun again. Maybe I'm the minority but I don't enjoy 1shotting peeps to the point that they want to quit. However, other people enjoy it. And seeing that the weaker players (including quite a lot eidolon) for sure never gonna catch up is kinda sad.

      If R2 would at least tell us where they want to go with this game, then it would be pretty easy for me to decide if I'm gonna spend any more cash here or not.
      Last edited by sebastian1988; 11-21-2012, 11:16 AM.

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      • #18
        I agree with you - the game certainly needs adaptations to make it playable again. Way too many people either quit because they get bored, or because they just can't keep up anymore with the huge gap between cashers and non-cashers.
        As a very moderate casher (VIP + crystals here and there for pet and shinies like costume and mount) I prefer to *choose* whether I want to spend cash on an item or work for it, I don't like feeling obliged to spend money to keep up. So while I *could* spend quite some on the game, it simply doesn't seem worth it anymore - barely any of the PvE content is adapted to eidolon and OP players, Seng is a joke, there are constant bugs and fixes that lead nowhere or aren't exactly necessary, and it seems more and more that the game is just one big cash shop without consistent development behind it. I used to enjoy the challenge, now I almost feel obliged to be on all the time (I'm not) or to shell out money. Not to mention that r2 seems to do nothing about repeated appeals to stop abuse, scams, bullying, anti-social behaviour, which makes me wonder whether they still listen to their userbase or just figure they'll sell out quick on a dying game.

        Basically you and several other very helpful suggestions threads do r2's work for them, but even then they don't seem to even look at it. Perhaps this is just an impression, and I do appreciate it when we get events and replies to tickets or visits from GMs to address a particular situation - but it seems to become too little, too late, lately.
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        • #19
          Wow.. So many things! I started reading, stopped halfway through, knowing I aggreed with you on pretty much all points so far. I'll finish reading the rest later, though I know I'll like it considering I liked the rest.

          I've been mentioned! <3
          I'll be posting up more large event suggestions soon too, I'm glad to see they are well liked!
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          • #20
            Lots of great ideas, and I do hope that the suggestions for making some rare drops in dungeons be implemented. I don't think that they would change current dungeon drops, but maybe when there's new dungs ew and such would be dropped there. There really isn't much to do after a certain point in this game. Tbh I think at end game only benefit is that you can spend more time farming. R2 did try some events to make the game more fun, such as Tamalan and Treasure Trove, but I don't think many people even do it anymore since it's mainly for the stronger players. And luckily for sperion and blessing I did get a casher to buy me the crystal and soul prints, but that was just luck and I don't think many people can follow that either. Hopefully R2 does read this forum and make some changes to the game because there is not much to do as a noncasher and I think cashers are getting kinda bored also.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Alexmancer View Post
              Wow.. So many things! I started reading, stopped halfway through, knowing I aggreed with you on pretty much all points so far. I'll finish reading the rest later, though I know I'll like it considering I liked the rest.

              I've been mentioned! <3
              I'll be posting up more large event suggestions soon too, I'm glad to see they are well liked!
              The events are always the same for months now. And it's usually grind all day, plant all day or defeat bosses on top of each hour.
              I've been playing for roughly 8 month now and I never had any events with questlines. I do read most of the posts here and I dislike quite a few of them.
              Mostly because they are too complex to ever be implemented or because they include a lot of exploiting or even bullying. Your event suggestion "Masquerade Nocturne" doesn't sound impossible and it's different from all the events that have been so far. That's why I mentioned it

              I tried to avoid suggestions that cut down income for R2 and also suggestions that seem far too complex to ever be implemented.
              However, there are so many small things that could be done and it wouldn't even take much time for R2. Like replacing items on the Dragon Hunt Wheel. That suggestion got accepted months ago >.> How hard can it be to replace an item id <.<;

              Even when people can't catch up with major cashers (heck, even all the low levels who got merged into older server and all the lowbies who just start playing today on a server that has been around for months), they could at least try to make this game fun on the PvE side.

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              • #22
                You missed the events with questlines then, because they actually used to put out events like that. I've been playing pretty much since the game opened Beta, so I've seen a lot of them. I miss the quest line events a lot and I'd really like to see that come back. I don't like having to go and kill bosses and hope that someone stronger than me doesn't take the kill and I really don't like exploiting alts to get decent rewards.

                I've noticed that at some point I actually compared to cash players, then all of a sudden Sperion comes out and the gap widens again. You know how disheartening that is for someone that is been playing this game as long as I have? Why can't people like me be rewarded for all the work we've put into the game?
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                • #23
                  Ikr. This game once was at the point that everything was about gear and how you play your class. Gear that all players could get if they keep playing. (That was when I started)
                  But getting your sperion, blessing, wings and mount takes so much time that most people quit before obtaining them.

                  Soul always was a huge difference in stats but as soon as you were in slayers, you were able to keep up. Also soul gets really expensive, it slows everyone down, even huge casher. Same for pixie. 80-195-800-2000-4000 puc + the soulshards, that is not easy even if you cash much.
                  but sperion gives way too much benefit and the cost is too low compared to soul. Winning avernal or trove without sperion and blessing is impossible, I do 10-20x the dps of some people who are on the same level as me.

                  How are they supposed to get the items that they need? Its more benefitial to use all your loot on alts to then farm the lower level avernal and trove instead of working on your main.

                  And yes, I never had this questline events or I don't remember them. I started around clover seeds time. The best event that they ever made. I farmed enough ethereal wings at that time as a low level mortal to get my angel lord wings. The orange seed event was kinda like clover but they removed the random multiplier.

                  Be sure that as soon as you catch up on sperion (not talking about maxing it) then there will be the next cash-only addition to widen that gap.

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                  • #24
                    I suggest R2 do a good update (120 cap) at the moment am already getting bored of the game, I agree with mostly everything on your post, I dont want this game to end up like saga of hero/crystal legacy- low population all cashers/ events almost every week. R2 your going to lose players soon so do something(non-cashers once they find out cashers have a way higher advantage in the end game).
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                    • #25
                      please make another battleground room for players 55+ it's ridiculous to keep them in same room with 40+ players :\

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                      • #26
                        I'm sure as soon as my sperion catches up the gap will widen again... OTL
                        That being said, I'm not doing badly by any means. I'm still one of the better priests on my server, but xD
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                        • #27
                          It does get extremely repetitive when you become a high level, and most of the events lately have been to either plant this, kill this and such. Which was getting tiring and not to mention stressing at times. I barely have time to do anything during my free time now, because of the heaps of dungeons I have to farm.

                          Alot of the new contents were majorly cash focused too, Sperion for example. Although this event gave Earth Soul Orb Packs and a bit of Soul prints, once you start upgrading your Sperions you'll be discouraged by the huge boost of the Soul print requirements. There is also those boxes that you get from Bosses where you obtain a good amount of Soul Orbs, but not only are they very rare, they also require crystals to open? That's kinda depressing for a non-cashing player, especially seeing that the rare boxes could've made his character alot better, but he has to sell it or get crystals to be able to use it. Blessing was already kinda tough to obtain, really.

                          - I agree to taking out the limit for the badges exchange and add in more items, and make everything bound if you have to. And yes, change to the Dragon hunt items. Socketing rods should never be in there, as well as bronze badges..

                          I seriously hope they do make some changes, because back then this is really an interesting game to play, but now it's steadily getting boring and repetitive.
                          Last edited by Monophobia; 11-24-2012, 07:59 AM.
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                          • #28
                            Guess there won't be any GM opinion.

                            Well the current week is full of exploiting again. I have no problem with that, I actually maxed my sperion now.
                            Causing a ton of lag. I'm pretty sure that less people would feel the need to exploit if they would make the items accessible ingame

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by sebastian1988 View Post
                              Guess there won't be any GM opinion.

                              Well the current week is full of exploiting again. I have no problem with that, I actually maxed my sperion now.
                              Causing a ton of lag. I'm pretty sure that less people would feel the need to exploit if they would make the items accessible ingame
                              Surprise surprise, talking to deaf ears won't get you any respond. :3 - And gratz for the maxed Sperion
                              Stalkers OP.

                              Best (ex) R2 employee quote: "Be kind to your fellow players ~ you never know when they are alt GMs "

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                              • #30
                                Have a unbound of sperion socketing rod with 1g fee.
                                timing of things are annoying. 10 minutes to finish training eventhough I could have done it in less then 5 minutes.
                                Add a third boss popping for rebirth quest. there are also more then 10 players needing them: ice queen, amarog, and fallen angel
                                Last edited by R21537441; 11-27-2012, 01:29 AM.

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