Avernal Boss

[NaturaI]

If the guild boss can be programmed so that the frag weapon life steal does not work on it, the same should be able to be done in the Avernal boss. If blood breaking is taken away, why is blood cry and blood lust not?
Food for thought

[Botolminum]

Because back then they only had 1 or 2 games, now look at how many games they have, it's not that they don't want to change it, but they don't care about this game anymore, unless the bug is preventing people from playing (read: Cashing), like the loading bug, etc.

I've opened a lot of tickets and there has been numerous suggestion about this bloodcry, bloodlust skills in Avernal, their answer is "investigating it" (since 2 months ago) , "be patience, need to sort out the other problems first based on ticket number or something" (since 2 months ago) , "will take your suggestion and consider it" (since 2 months ago), and bunch other bot responses.

[MemoryLane]

It's different devs on each game, so the number of games has nothing to do with anything. It's up to the devs to change things, and sometimes they don't feel it's a necessity. There's really not a lot of support for this suggestion, which could be what they are waiting for.

[adrimid]

I've agreed with this for a long time, and I'm sure other people have, too.

Avernal has now become a lottery because of the frags, usually with rogues on top, since they hit twice in one normal attack.
It's not about damage anymore, it's just who gets the most frag skills off.

[venomeh]

Yeah Avernal is pointless HPS lottery nowadays, the game's going worse and worse..

[iyasn]

It's different devs on each game, so the number of games has nothing to do with anything. It's up to the devs to change things, and sometimes they don't feel it's a necessity. There's really not a lot of support for this suggestion, which could be what they are waiting for.

This just made me laugh.

[Schnurpsel]

I filed tickets and sent screenshots. To say it isn't changed yet because there is not not enough support makes the users even angrier about the current situation.

[R212235903]

It's different devs on each game, so the number of games has nothing to do with anything. It's up to the devs to change things, and sometimes they don't feel it's a necessity. There's really not a lot of support for this suggestion, which could be what they are waiting for.

if they only need supporters for suggestions to be implemented, how come until now, there's still no 3rd vault page? I believe that suggestion has been suggested every week... should the supporters of such suggestions need to spam/comment every threads about it everyday for the devs to consider implementing these suggestions? players have lost hope about their voices being heard by devs... they just don't care anymore..

[Death.Dealer]

cmon people stop hating on rogues we work damn hard for our poor little toons
yea sure we hit twice to everyone elses one but.......... our rogues still suck a lot
1, we dont tank very well
2, rogues take more work than any other class to get anywhere near good
3, our AOE's might as well be extinct

try building your own rogue then you will see how much we have to go through to get good (or just cash till it comes out of your ears lol)

EVERYONE complains about rogues but what you fail to realize at later stages of the game we do get outshined (eventually lol)

[Helldemon83]

Just fix the imbalance in the frags and then you don't even have to worry about mortal rogues with no soul beating out well geared/souled eidos and scions in damage in avernal because the chance to activate will be the same meaning the jobs with higher DPS should win most times. Or just give priests/mages/knights/rangers the same chance rogues have to proc on their perfect frags. 10% for blood cry and 12-24%(I-X) for blood lust II.

[Botolminum]

cmon people stop hating on rogues we work damn hard for our poor little toons
yea sure we hit twice to everyone elses one but.......... our rogues still suck a lot
1, we dont tank very well
2, rogues take more work than any other class to get anywhere near good
3, our AOE's might as well be extinct

try building your own rogue then you will see how much we have to go through to get good (or just cash till it comes out of your ears lol)

EVERYONE complains about rogues but what you fail to realize at later stages of the game we do get outshined (eventually lol)

Hi there noob, do you realize this thread is talking about avernal boss, and not about the rogue overall class ? I'm amazed with how many retarded people come in to Avernal Boss discussion and talking about how weak is rogue, and blabla, there were some others in some other threads that I can't be bothered to look up.

[GeoStig]

cmon people stop hating on rogues we work damn hard for our poor little toons
yea sure we hit twice to everyone elses one but.......... our rogues still suck a lot
1, we dont tank very well
2, rogues take more work than any other class to get anywhere near good
3, our AOE's might as well be extinct

try building your own rogue then you will see how much we have to go through to get good (or just cash till it comes out of your ears lol)

EVERYONE complains about rogues but what you fail to realize at later stages of the game we do get outshined (eventually lol)

Im not gonna be disrespectful like that guy above cause every1 has there own opinions but most of the things u say is mostly false. Rogues take more work than any other class, thats totally wrong every1 has to work on there toon equally but i do feel like priests is the class that takes the most work and ur rogue y are u complaining about aoe. Rogue is one of the easiest class to build in the game and to maneuver, most of the game depends on dps and you guys practically have all the pvp aspects of the game on your side.

[R24656887]

I take it the real problem is not with rogue class or whateva, but the introduction of the new perfect fragarach that has created many imbalance in the game (sengolia being the worst, but meh, i don't wanna go into there again). Rather than putting all the blame on rogue, why not simply nerfing/eliminating all the skill that the perfect fragarach possess during avernal? That way it would be fair for anyone, because well, even if rogue attack 2X faster, their total damage is pretty much the same with any other class