Priest Scion Skill - Death Cometh

[R22024476]

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[Hyorinmaru6]

.....well thats just like saying they should delete the whole middle blood tree isnt it?
what type of customization is there for priest then?
all of use will be the exact same = boring
well, right now thats how its going, only a few actually choose the blood>holy/hybrid path, and their mostly lowbies
but yeah, they tried changing it and failed, they don't wanna reply to us because they don't know how to play/fix their game~

No i am stating that out of Blood and holy
holy is better
why and how is it better?
Holy gives buffs which help other players more
example: with the middle blood tree which will benefit me only = pointless for a support class maybe good for mages but pointless for priests
buffs on the other hand will be helpful to u but way more helpful for others which kinda fulfills the point of a support class
hence holy beats blood anyday

[R22024476]

No i am stating that out of Blood and holy
holy is better
why and how is it better?
Holy gives buffs which help other players more
example: with the middle blood tree which will benefit me only = pointless for a support class maybe good for mages but pointless for priests
buffs on the other hand will be helpful to u but way more helpful for others which kinda fulfills the point of a support class
hence holy beats blood anyday

It would be entirely circumstantial. If you wanna play support then yes holy would be the way to go though the eid skill is lame as hell, but thats for another thread.If you just wanna play for your enjoyment and say f**k everyone else, which is what I do, then blood is the way to go.

[nubheals]

No i am stating that out of Blood and holy
holy is better
why and how is it better?
Holy gives buffs which help other players more
example: with the middle blood tree which will benefit me only = pointless for a support class maybe good for mages but pointless for priests
buffs on the other hand will be helpful to u but way more helpful for others which kinda fulfills the point of a support class
hence holy beats blood anyday

If you say that priest is purely for support, then why did they even create the middle blood tree? Your opinion, sorry to say, is totally biased, and you don't even play priest. It is like saying knight's role is to tank, and people shouldn't get retribution skills.

And even if priest IS for support, our eidolon heal is WORSE than our mortal heal skills, what do you have to say about that?

[Hyorinmaru6]

Once again everyone is missing the basic point
each class is designed to for specific tasks
Rogues : excel in PVP horrible in PVE
Rangers : Balanced on PVP and PVE
Priests : excel in PVE and dungeons but total lameos in PVP
Mages : excel in PVP but like rogues horrible in PVE
Knights : excel in PVP and PVE top class among all classes
the very name Priests means servants of god AKA helpers not killers first check info
if u just wanna play for your enjoyment and say F word to everyone else then play rogues or Knights

[Hyorinmaru6]

If you say that priest is purely for support, then why did they even create the middle blood tree? Your opinion, sorry to say, is totally biased, and you don't even play priest. It is like saying knight's role is to tank, and people shouldn't get retribution skills.

And even if priest IS for support, our eidolon heal is WORSE than our mortal heal skills, what do you have to say about that?

well duh eidolon is recent release and it has its own way of healing + mortal healing is highly needed it doesn't matter which plane ur in the reason the mortal one is good is because mortals are NO1 only after mortal comes scion and eidolon so they obviously need to give atleast 1 advantage to the mortals or its like making a class which is neither good in PVP nor PVE which will result in total chaos and Priests aren't full support they need to be a little anti demonic so they can excel in PVE before other classes

[Kodabear82388]

The fact of the matter is that we have the choice of picking which we want, but are forced by R2 to pick the holy or hybrid. Every class gets to choose what they want except Priest.

[nubheals]

well duh eidolon is recent release and it has its own way of healing + mortal healing is highly needed it doesn't matter which plane ur in the reason the mortal one is good is because mortals are NO1 only after mortal comes scion and eidolon so they obviously need to give atleast 1 advantage to the mortals

So basically we spent tons of effort to reach Eidolon (which is technically lvl 180) to get something that has less practical use than a person who didn't even need to get pass lvl 80?

I won't argue with you anymore since every post of you is the same, first you insisted that priest is made for pure support, and when I bring out the flaws of even pure support build, you said that a mortal is supposed to be better than eidolon? Where is the logic in that?

And if you really read my suggestions carefully, you can see that everything I suggested on eidolon heal doesn't mean that we will be totally using eidolon heal and throw away light heal. I only suggested to make it worth using as an eidolon skill. Because currently there is no practical use for it. It heals way too slow and take away your flexibility in term of supporting while casting it.

[Psyc80]

I am kind of glad I chose the healer side of the skills, but I would still join in on this mass message and ticketing to get their attention.. Can't half way set up something like 1st rebirth and still have issues with the skill by the time the 2nd rebirth is brought into play?? All the healing skills apparently work.. has anyone attempted the new Eidolon dps skill yet?

[nubheals]

Eidolon blood isn't dps, as stated by venomeh: it costs 12% hp to trap a random target, and you can't attack that trapped target unless you stand close enough to him (which is clearly suicidal)

I, too, choose the healing/support side of priest. But I'm on the same boat as those blood priests because our eidolon skills, both blood and holy, are still worse and have less practical use than even mortal skills. I just feel it is unfair that we lvled our way to lvl 180 and yet what we get is worse than what we already have access to at lvl 80. Furthermore, scion blood skill has been buggy for ages, how can it be fair that everyone else have 2 fully working skill trees to choose from, while we are forced to pick the holy rebirth tree because scion blood skill isn't working, and eidolon blood skill is practically useless?

[Hyorinmaru6]

1. Yup
2. Dude i am not arguing more of debating
and yeah i read ur post i am not saying its bad or anything like that (don't misunderstand my intention)
i am merely saying if u give more advantage to a eidolon priest skill which will take months of hard work and sometimes more to just reach the plane of eidolon (considering that u only focus on leveling and not on anything else) then the low levels who might end up quitting the game way before even reaching such a height then giving them the very statement of solo dungeon masters is kinda pointless
3. yeah i read all ur posts and yes i got the idea that ur trying to say something good too but i am stating that it will not happen cause mortal skill is better
why?
because lowbies need a skill which surpasses most of the skills even if they are on a different plane in order to become strong and also to solo dungeons and ohh forgot to mention if ur asking give us priests some reason to max that skill then guess what U don't need to max it just give it 1 point or something honestly i would not go maxing skills other than buffs buffs + quick heal + AOE attacks from blood = good priests No matter who says this i still say Pure support as priests was the main intention of the original version makers so u got any problem with the priests then ask them not r2 cause asking a game provider for why the priests suck in PVP is like asking ur self why am i asking myself (which is kinda silly)
incase u couldn't understand the last sentence this is how it will look

you asking ur self
Why am i asking my self ?
u don't even know what ur asking but ur just asking ur self why am i asking myself
like u looking in the mirror and ask reflection
Do u have any idea how silly it looks?

Also guess what unless a GM or mod comes up and says we have changed the skills production and actually did end up changing it
then u have to admit the fact priests are worst class for PVP and eidolon skill is not going to surpass a mortal skill simple i am merely pointingout the cold hard fact
If u want PVP or PVE but more better then go knight or rogue or whatever class

[Zatemo]

Since the mods want us to suggest and not jut complain and argue, here are some suggestions for Eidolon Scion skills:

Holy Eidolon:
Places a totem or a huge ring (radius same as holy water from bath) that does the same or slightly more heals as the current eidolon skill every 2 sec. And ally players within the radius of this can not attack or be attacked (includes debuffing; also heals them of course), and this status would be removed if they leave the radius. Also this staus cannot be removed by purging nor by knight's buff remover.

Holy scion: It's good, no change needed.

Blood Scion: enemies take % of damge taken and have a high or % HP regen

Blood Eidolon: Long range aoe skill (like balrogs hell, my holy eidolon skill suggestion, etc.) that roots enemies every 2 sec or 1 sec in that radius, and also does high DoT. This could have vampiric effect if wanted.

This will be posted in the other thread so that mods have higher chance of seeing this.

[berndesu]

No i am stating that out of Blood and holy
holy is better
why and how is it better?
Holy gives buffs which help other players more
example: with the middle blood tree which will benefit me only = pointless for a support class maybe good for mages but pointless for priests
buffs on the other hand will be helpful to u but way more helpful for others which kinda fulfills the point of a support class
hence holy beats blood anyday

what I am saying is that this is the problem
other classes its actually a decision to chose what skill path to take
oh and you said that rogues suck in pve? well haha, have you seen a high level rogue? they can finish dungeons so quickly
the thing is that holy was made to do good in pve, blood was for pvp thats what they did, or tried to atleast
but the whole middle blood tree is meaningless which basically means that priest don't have as much content as the other classes
oh and if you make a blood priest, you suck in pvp and pve, it should be a decision of what path you want to be, and not everyone played a priest because of their buffs, i personally was really interested in their middle tree and their rebirth skills
oh but yeah, our scion skill doesn't work as intended, it works like the way it was when rebirth was just implemented
so why did they bother to change it? because they stated that it didn't work the way they wanted
and its pretty obvious that most people just want to have death cometh work like the description it has
yeah they gms don't know how to fix their game (people asking for the same thing to be fixed for like 3 months now?)
might as well play the games that R2 is advertising at the top of the forums

[Saisaishi]

Another move for them to be able to do good damage with. That 3 AoE combo move if preformed right is all that you need.

[Hyorinmaru6]

what I am saying is that this is the problem
other classes its actually a decision to chose what skill path to take
oh and you said that rogues suck in pve? well haha, have you seen a high level rogue? they can finish dungeons so quickly
the thing is that holy was made to do good in pve, blood was for pvp thats what they did, or tried to atleast
but the whole middle blood tree is meaningless which basically means that priest don't have as much content as the other classes
oh and if you make a blood priest, you suck in pvp and pve, it should be a decision of what path you want to be, and not everyone played a priest because of their buffs, i personally was really interested in their middle tree and their rebirth skills
oh but yeah, our scion skill doesn't work as intended, it works like the way it was when rebirth was just implemented
so why did they bother to change it? because they stated that it didn't work the way they wanted
and its pretty obvious that most people just want to have death cometh work like the description it has
yeah they gms don't know how to fix their game (people asking for the same thing to be fixed for like 3 months now?)
might as well play the games that R2 is advertising at the top of the forums

dude
1. rogues suck in PVE high levels are exception because they are too powerful through soul wings mount and other stuff including equipment
i have seen a level 35 rogues trying to solo rev vault normal and fail 4 out of 5 times they use either orbs or other means don't believe me ask anyone in ur server the best class for PVE and worst class for PVE and dungeons

and here is a question
Why would u choose priest if u want PVP if u want PVP and PVE at the same time either go knights (who are kinda the best class) or ranger hybrid like myself (who are second best)
incase ur confused on PVP and PVE choice then just make up ur mind know ur class before making

when u make a character the class choice option clearly gives a description

also its a choice even for u just middle blood is not usually taken because buffs are important than attacks which will not benefit the very name of priests so it just feels like u have no choice because the middle lack the importance which are in the right side of holy

i cannot see the use of more attacks for priests but i see tons of uses for buffs especially scion buff and yeah i have played a priest and till date do not see the use for the middle skill tree